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I love how good people are at reaching conclusions, based on absolutely no information at all.    First, we were definitely getting Stafford. Now, we're definitely not. (And we will definite

Stafford was always my #1 choice among veteran options. (He was my preferred choice last offseason, someone posted a poll and I picked him.)   I'M ALL IN ON STAFFORD YALL.

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1 minute ago, poilucelt said:

buckle up....

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Wentz isn’t going anywhere. Maybe  foles could get his magic back with Reich. Who knows. I saw the bears are going to go hard for Watson.

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Matt Ryan could be just like rivers. One year and done again. Then your left with no one. St that point you better hope Eason is ready.

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

Wentz isn’t going anywhere. Maybe  foles could get his magic back with Reich. Who knows. I saw the bears are going to go hard for Watson.

no way to foles 

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Between the old OC being the coach in Philly now, and Franks connection with Wentz and Superman telling me my read on his game is off..

 

Yeah, that might happen if the Stafford thing does fall through. I hope it doesn't. 

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Some of yall need to chill. Ballard isn't going to overpay for a guy, especially for a QB so if Washington/SF offer more than he's worth then it ain't gonna happen. To me with how well he's built this roster, I trust him to find the best  talent for the team without feeding into the hype. Stafford on the team would be interesting to see, but let's not act like he's the only potential move out there.

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

Wentz isn’t going anywhere. Maybe  foles could get his magic back with Reich. Who knows. I saw the bears are going to go hard for Watson.

hiring Sirianni is a sign that Wentz isn't going anywhere (and that Roseman won the power struggle over Pederson)

 

if it's true that Foles was CB's 2nd choice after Rivers a year ago, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ballard try to trade for him this off-season--which would amount to kicking the can down the road until 2022, but so it goes

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1 minute ago, The Fish said:

Between the old OC being the coach in Philly now, and Franks connection with Wentz and Superman telling me my read on his game is off..

 

Yeah, that might happen if the Stafford thing does fall through. I hope it doesn't. 

Wentz would have to request a trade. They want to fix him. It’s in their best interest to try.

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25 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I was watching PTI earlier and Tony K said Andrew Luck might comeback, he just said it is possible. 

Why do you bother posting this?

 

Chloe has more good sources than Tony K.  Is it technically possible?   Sure.   But by all accounts, by everyone who knows him, he’s done.   Tony K is throwing a dart and hoping he gets close to a bullseye.   If he’s right it’s not because he knows something.   It would be because even a broken clock is right twice a day. 

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Just now, The Fish said:

Between the old OC being the coach in Philly now, and Franks connection with Wentz and Superman telling me my read on his game is off..

 

Yeah, that might happen if the Stafford thing does fall through. I hope it doesn't. 

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If we dont get Stafford , I say we roll with a rookie or Eason.  I would rather scrap thru the season then get another fools gold vet who will only keep us in qb limbo for another year or 2. Time for Ballard to have some direction and not a band aid approach. I dont want Carr.....Ryan....Darnold....or anyone else honestly. I dont think any of them will take us to the promised land.

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Just now, poilucelt said:

hiring Sirianni is a sign that Wentz isn't going anywhere (and that Roseman won the power struggle over Pederson)

 

if it's true that Foles was CB's 2nd choice after Rivers a year ago, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ballard try to trade for him this off-season--which would amount to kicking the can down the road until 2022, but so it goes

To me Foles is better then porn star Jimmy or some of the other ones out there. At least Reich has history with him and he has won a SB. If they could get the magic back he is young enough to be here awhile. I could probably be ok with that because of Reichs history with him.

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1 minute ago, Moosejawcolt said:

If we dont get Stafford , I say we roll with a rookie or Eason.  I would rather scrap thru the season then get another fools gold vet who will only keep us in qb limbo for another year or 2. Time for Ballard to have some direction and not a band aid approach. I dont want Carr.....Ryan....Darnold....or anyone else honestly. I dont think any of them will take us to the promised land.

That leaves Jones Trask Newman and possibly Lance with his limited work 

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2 minutes ago, poilucelt said:

hiring Sirianni is a sign that Wentz isn't going anywhere (and that Roseman won the power struggle over Pederson)

 

if it's true that Foles was CB's 2nd choice after Rivers a year ago, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ballard try to trade for him this off-season--which would amount to kicking the can down the road until 2022, but so it goes

What's scary about your statement is that Ballard was even considering Fole s as an option. That makes me question his ability to evaluate qbs

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1 minute ago, Moosejawcolt said:

If we dont get Stafford , I say we roll with a rookie or Eason.  I would rather scrap thru the season then get another fools gold vet who will only keep us in qb limbo for another year or 2. Time for Ballard to have some direction and not a band aid approach. I dont want Carr.....Ryan....Darnold....or anyone else honestly. I dont think any of them will take us to the promised land.

I agree with this. Time yo stop kicking the can down the road.

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2 minutes ago, colts89 said:

Some of yall need to chill. Ballard isn't going to overpay for a guy, especially for a QB so if Washington/SF offer more than he's worth then it ain't gonna happen. To me with how well he's built this roster, I trust him to find the best  talent for the team without feeding into the hype. Stafford on the team would be interesting to see, but let's not act like he's the only potential move out there.

I doubt there are many who think Ballard might "overpay" for a veteran, but if it's true that SF might get Stafford without giving up #12 this draft, then I'm not sure they're "overpaying" for him either

 

and some might feel that giving up the kind of draft capital it would probably take to move up for Fields or Wilson would also amount to "overpaying"

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Just now, danlhart87 said:

That leaves Jones Trask Newman and possibly Lance with his limited work 

Sure. At this point I will take Colonel Sanders as our qb. Just getting tired of the qb carousel. I am not sure they can move up in the draft. Lot of teams need a qb. Would b super expensive.

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2 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Sure. At this point I will take Colonel Sanders as our qb. Just getting tired of the qb carousel. I am not sure they can move up in the draft. Lot of teams need a qb. Would b super expensive.

just because they need to doesn't mean they will guaranteed 

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5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

To me Foles is better then porn star Jimmy or some of the other ones out there. At least Reich has history with him and he has won a SB. If they could get the magic back he is young enough to be here awhile. I could probably be ok with that because of Reichs history with him.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

haha man I don't want any of them, probably Goff but that is shaky.

Darnold would be low risk high reward 

Would be funny if we got him for 3 then he became an all star here

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10 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

To me Foles is better then porn star Jimmy or some of the other ones out there. At least Reich has history with him and he has won a SB. If they could get the magic back he is young enough to be here awhile. I could probably be ok with that because of Reichs history with him.

to me it's a waste of time to even compare Jimmy G, Foles, Darnold, or any of the other hypothetically available guys besides Stafford since IMO none of them would make the Colts better overall or get them closer to a Super Bowl--if anything, I'd almost be inclined to try for Winston, since he at least has the arm and mobility to make things interesting (and opposing defenses nervous)

 

if Ballard does move up, so be it, but at that point it would be pretty clear to me that he thinks the Colts aren't really in a "win now" position--and he might be right, given the Castonzo and Rivers retirements, and the possibility of losing Rhodes, Hilton, etc

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

For every year we keep kicking the can down  the road that is another year a rookie or Eason could be playing and developing. 

What rookie do you want exactly 

 

Realistically 

Wilson Lawrence Fields and possibly Lance are off the table

 

That leaves Jones Trask or Newman 

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1 minute ago, poilucelt said:

to me it's a waste of time to even compare Jimmy G, Foles, Darnold, or any of the other hypothetically available guys since IMO none of them would make the Colts better overall or get them closer to a Super Bowl--if anything, I'd almost be inclined to try for Winston, since he at least has the arm and mobility to make things interesting (and opposing defenses nervous)

 

if Ballard does move up, so be it, but at that point it would be pretty clear to me that he thinks the Colts aren't really in a "win now" position--and he might be right, given the Castonzo and Rivers retirements, and the possibility of losing Rhodes, Hilton, etc

Ballard is going to have a hard time selling the fans on another bandaid. 

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13 minutes ago, colts89 said:

Some of yall need to chill. Ballard isn't going to overpay for a guy, especially for a QB so if Washington/SF offer more than he's worth then it ain't gonna happen. To me with how well he's built this roster, I trust him to find the best  talent for the team without feeding into the hype. Stafford on the team would be interesting to see, but let's not act like he's the only potential move out there.

I agree. If Ballard truly beleives he has a championship team. He could draft a rookie and he would b surrounded by talent. I would rather use my pics to go up and get a young guy who they beleive in then give the farm for Stafford. He is going to be 33 and has been hit a lot.

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Just now, danlhart87 said:

What rookie do you want exactly 

 

Realistically 

Wilson Lawrence Fields and possibly Lance are off the table

 

That leaves Jones Trask or Newman 

If we can’t get Wilson or Fields there probably is no other. I would be ok with Lance because we at least then have the future. If we got Lance then I would be ok with a bandaid because we have the future.

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2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Ballard is going to have a hard time selling the fans on another bandaid. 

I agree; that doesn't mean he may not have to do so, unfortunately

 

especially since he would (at least presumably) also have to sell the owner on it

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2 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

I agree. If Ballard truly beleives he has a championship team. He could draft a rookie and he would b surrounded by talent. I would rather use my pics to go up and get a young guy who they beleive in then give the farm for Stafford. He is going to be 33 and has been hit a lot.

I expect CB would have to give up a bigger "farm" to move up for Fields or Wilson than he would to trade for Stafford, and Stafford has already proven he can play

 

which may be moot, if Lynch/SF can swing a deal for him--at that point it's either "save draft capital and do a Rivers 2.0" or "roll the dice on an expensive rookie" and hope it pans out

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3 hours ago, DEFENSE said:

draft pick qbs are a crapshoot, luck was ranked #1 in the draft, wilson turned out to be better

Oh here we go. The great debate about which qb is greater. In a sport which is the most team focused. Why ...why do we always focus on who is the greatest qb? U take Hill away from Mahommes and that offence takes a huge...huge step back. Its a team sport

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Only thing I hope for right now is it’s lying season. So hopefully all of this is a distraction for what Ballard is actually trying to do.  

I'm still intrigued by my darkhorse prediction Jordan Love. 

 

That's dependent on how much Pack wanna keep Discount Double Check 

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Just now, danlhart87 said:

I'm still intrigued by my darkhorse prediction Jordan Love. 

 

That's dependent on how much Pack wanna keep Discount Double Check 

You will be happy mac jones Is having a very good senior bowl week. They have talked about his accuracy and keeping his eyes downfield when feeling pressure.

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15 minutes ago, poilucelt said:

to me it's a waste of time to even compare Jimmy G, Foles, Darnold, or any of the other hypothetically available guys besides Stafford since IMO none of them would make the Colts better overall or get them closer to a Super Bowl--if anything, I'd almost be inclined to try for Winston, since he at least has the arm and mobility to make things interesting (and opposing defenses nervous)

 

if Ballard does move up, so be it, but at that point it would be pretty clear to me that he thinks the Colts aren't really in a "win now" position--and he might be right, given the Castonzo and Rivers retirements, and the possibility of losing Rhodes, Hilton, etc

Winston isn't a bad option. He gives the Colts a chance to win. The only problem is that he gives the opponent an even better chance.

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3 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Oh here we go. The great debate about which qb is greater. In a sport which is the most team focused. Why ...why do we always focus on who is the greatest qb? U take Hill away from Mahommes and that offence takes a huge...huge step back. Its a team sport

Literally one of the dumbest things you have ever said

 

Patrick Mahomes has a passer rating of 103.1 with 1,737 yards, 8 touchdowns and 1 interception in 5 games without Tyreek Hill in his career.

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