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2 minutes ago, IinD said:

That's my feeling as well, I'll grin and bear it, but I don't want to give potentially 2 or 3 picks for him.

 

He definitely scares me though. Older, been beat up during his career and stuck in a terrible organization for years with a losing culture.

 

Let's hope it all works out.

To the “older” comment, I just read a bit ago that he’s less than 2 years older than Andrew Luck.  Ergo, in QB terms, he is now right in his prime, a prime that should be able to last a good 5 years, maybe even 7.  Certainly well worth a 1st round draft choice.

 

If I am Ballard, my first call is ... “Hello, Andrew ..... No?  Okay, thanks and again, all the best.”

 

2nd call, “Hello, Detroit Lions, so let’s talk Stafford ...”

 

Then the Official Colts tweet ... “The Indianapolis Colts are happy to announce that we’ve traded to acquire Matthew Stafford!”

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I love how good people are at reaching conclusions, based on absolutely no information at all.    First, we were definitely getting Stafford. Now, we're definitely not. (And we will definite

Stafford was always my #1 choice among veteran options. (He was my preferred choice last offseason, someone posted a poll and I picked him.)   I'M ALL IN ON STAFFORD YALL.

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10 minutes ago, IinD said:

That's my feeling as well, I'll grin and bear it, but I don't want to give potentially 2 or 3 picks for him.

 

He definitely scares me though. Older, been beat up during his career and stuck in a terrible organization for years with a losing culture.

 

Let's hope it all works out.

 

His age doesn't bother me. He's good for another 5 years, if he doesn't suffer catastrophic injury.

 

Speaking of which, in the last ten seasons, he's missed eight games. All eight of those missed games were in 2019, due to a back injury. He was back and looked fine physically in 2020. (I think there's a feeling that Stafford misses games all the time, is hurt all the time, etc. Not sure where that comes from.) He was producing well before he got hurt, and had started something like 130 games in a row.

 

The Lions having a losing culture doesn't influence my thoughts on Stafford.

 

We'll see what happens, but I hope the rumors are true and the Colts are able to get this done. It would likely bring some stability to the QB position for the first time in six years, and it would allow the front office to keep building the roster with an eye toward the future.

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1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

 

He's going to be 38 and would most likely cost multiple 1s to get

Rodgers isn’t 38 in football years.

 

Remember, he didn’t play his first three years.   He was behind Brett Favre.   So that’s three more years of punishment that AR didn’t experience.   His level of play hasn’t fallen off.  That’s a good sign. 

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1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

Rodgers isn’t 38 in football years.

 

Remember, he didn’t play his first three years.   He was behind Brett Favre.   So that’s three more years of punishment that AR didn’t experience.   His level of play hasn’t fallen off.  That’s a good sign. 

plus he has said he wants to play well into his 40's..

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3 minutes ago, twfish said:

plus he has said he wants to play well into his 40's..

Well, all other things equal, Aaron Rodgers is definitely one of the QBs I’d prefer over Stafford - even if he is older.  He’s still a fantastic player (obviously, he’s deservedly about to win the MVP).

 

But I just wonder about how feasible it is that we could get him.

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2 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Rodgers looked like he was ready to retire after that loss.

His age scares me not because he can’t play. At that age he could retire anytime. I don’t want to be searching for another QB after a year because he decides to retire.

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29 minutes ago, rockywoj said:

To the “older” comment, I just read a bit ago that he’s less than 2 years older than Andrew Luck.  Ergo, in QB terms, he is now right in his prime, a prime that should be able to last a good 5 years, maybe even 7.  Certainly well worth a 1st round draft choice.

 

If I am Ballard, my first call is ... “Hello, Andrew ..... No?  Okay, thanks and again, all the best.”

 

2nd call, “Hello, Detroit Lions, so let’s talk Stafford ...”

 

Then the Official Colts tweet ... “The Indianapolis Colts are happy to announce that we’ve traded to acquire Matthew Stafford!”

From the Indy newspaper...

 

Stafford has been on the gameday injury report for the following body parts during his career, according to pro-football-reference.com: hip (10), shoulder (8), knee (7.5 times), thumb (4), back (3), ribs (3), finger (2.5), ankle (2), groin (1), quadricep (1), arm (1), hand (1), foot (1),

That's 13 body parts for a total of 44 games, or 22.9% of all the games he could have played in.

 

He's been sacked almost 400 times in his career also, that's wear and tear to me.

 

I'm not poo pooing the plan for him because we literally have nobody to play QB right now, but I don't want to give up a ton for him. 

 

I'd say that's my main gripe.

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10 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

His age scares me not because he can’t play. At that age he could retire anytime. I don’t want to be searching for another QB after a year because he decides to retire.


Can you imagine? We sign Rodgers and he ends up retiring after one season. Haha Indianapolis Colts - where HOF QBs come to retire.

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I think the 49ers will have a hard time making this happen with Garropolo on their roster with 2 years left on a giant contract and a no trade clause. They would conceivable tie up $50-65 million of their cap over the next 2 seasons unless they move Jimmy G. Problem with that is who would be willing to trade for that Jimmy G contract and/or trade for Jimmy G in the first place? Whoever would trade for him would also have to be a place that Jimmy G wants to go otherwise he could say no. That seems like a lot to have happen here.

 

 

 

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Injury report history doesn’t concern me.
 

Would you take this guy?

 

As of May 2017, this QB was on the injury report 186 times, for 11 different body parts, including 116 for his right (throwing) shoulder.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

His age scares me not because he can’t play. At that age he could retire anytime. I don’t want to be searching for another QB after a year because he decides to retire.

It's a different model of building but if he comes in and gives the Colts a shot at winning the SB, I'd take that with both hands IF a deal cannot be made to get a young QB the staff likes.

 

It's not quite QB hell but we're certainly in purgatory if a QB of that age comes to town. 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, IinD said:

From the Indy newspaper...

 

Stafford has been on the gameday injury report for the following body parts during his career, according to pro-football-reference.com: hip (10), shoulder (8), knee (7.5 times), thumb (4), back (3), ribs (3), finger (2.5), ankle (2), groin (1), quadricep (1), arm (1), hand (1), foot (1),

That's 13 body parts for a total of 44 games, or 22.9% of all the games he could have played in.

 

He's been sacked almost 400 times in his career also, that's wear and tear to me.

 

I'm not poo pooing the plan for him because we literally have nobody to play QB right now, but I don't want to give up a ton for him. 

 

I'd say that's my main gripe.

Stafford's rep is that he's injured alot.

 

If you bring Stafford in, have a good backup QB.  Maybe Jacoby ?

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48 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

His age scares me not because he can’t play. At that age he could retire anytime. I don’t want to be searching for another QB after a year because he decides to retire.

He looked like a beaten man that was ready to retire right there during his postgame press conference.

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3 minutes ago, coltsva said:

Injury report history doesn’t concern me.
 

Would you take this guy?

 

As of May 2017, this QB was on the injury report 186 times, for 11 different body parts, including 116 for his right (throwing) shoulder.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, PRnum1 said:

Stafford's rep is that he's injured alot.

 

If you bring Stafford in, have a good backup QB.  Maybe Jacoby ?

Stafford has missed 8games in 10 years. Those 8 games were all at once. 

 

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1 minute ago, PRnum1 said:

He looked like a beaten man that was ready to retire right there during his postgame press conference.

How beaten down would you look if were the starting QB for the Lions for the last 12 years?  

Last year he threw for 4,084 yds, 26 TDs and 10 picks. 

That with being sacked 38 times. 

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13 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Stafford's rep is that he's injured alot.

 

If you bring Stafford in, have a good backup QB.  Maybe Jacoby ?

 

Nah, I would wait and see how both Alex Smith and Mike Glennon are handled and would go for them over Jacoby, to be honest. They throw with anticipation and move the chains, and would work well with Frank's system. 

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2 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Nah, I would wait and see how both Alex Smith and Mike Glennon are handled and would go for them over Jacoby, to be honest. They throw with anticipation and move the chains, and would work well with Frank's system. 

I’m big on Smith.   Would love to have him if he still wants to play.   Not so much with Glennon.  I’d much prefer JB over him as our backup. 

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21 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Some colts media are saying if the Lions want Okereke he is tradeable. Leonard is not replaceable.

I wouldn't trade Leonard in deal for Stafford but if it helped get Lance I would

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49 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Some colts media are saying if the Lions want Okereke he is tradeable. Leonard is not replaceable.

I think one of the backers is tradable outside of Leonard. 

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Here's my list of QBs I would consider 

 

1. Mac Jones Take him at 21 or trade down 

2. Trey Lance Trade up to get him 

3. Matthew Stafford Trade 21 1 and 22 3

4. Sam Darnold Trade 21 3 

 

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45 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Yeah and hes gonna be a future hall of famer

lol. yeah, some thought that.

they've been a bit quiet this year.

 

IMO, he was asked to do more this year, and with some of the scheme changes (rip liz), just didn't work out well. 

 

If we didn't have so many other needs this year, there are a few great LBs in the draft. If JOK somehow drops to the second, I'd love to grab him if we've solved for the other holes. He and DL would be the best LB core in the league.

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5 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

I'm ok with Stafford as long as trades fair. I dont want Rodgers at all.

 

Why wouldn't you want arguably one of the Greatest QB's of All Time, even if it's just a few years?? And we're desperately in need of a QB. A QB to try and WIN NOW!

 

The cost of resources to get him pale in comparison to what we would be getting.

 

 

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1 minute ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

Why wouldn't you want arguably one of the Greatest QB's of All Time, even if it's just a few years?? And we're desperately in need of a QB. A QB to try and WIN NOW!

 

The cost of resources to get him pale in comparison to what we would be getting.

 

 

It would cost entirely too much.  You know damn well it would cost multiple 1s and I'm not willing to gamble on us winning the next 2 years. He couldn't win in GB so doubt he wins it all with us. Groom a young guy in draft!

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1 hour ago, Duke_Of_NY_A_Number_1 said:

Rodgers seems like a smart guy, thus he'll never, ever come to the AFC if he wants to get back to the SB, and that's one of the reasons as to why Brady left the AFC at this point in time. The AFC is a monster!

 

But if he went to Pittsburgh or New England they would be the monsters.

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4 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

It would cost entirely too much.  You know damn well it would cost multiple 1s and I'm not willing to gamble on us winning the next 2 years. He couldn't win in GB so doubt he wins it all with us. Groom a young guy in draft!

 

I'm not concerned about cost when it comes to super stars/playmakers, especially when it overnight makes you a serious threat to win it all.

 

Going with a drafted rookie or Eason eliminates any chance of a deep playoff run and frankly probably be fortunate to even contend for a wild card. 

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Just now, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

I'm not concerned about cost when it comes to super stars/playmakers, especially when it overnight makes you a serious threat to win it all.

 

Going with a drafted rookie or Eason eliminates any chance of a deep playoff run and frankly probably be fortunate to even contend for a wild card. 

Its not worth the gamble especially since the average age of QBs in AFC is 26.75 . I dont like the idea of putting all our eggs in 1 basket. 

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1 minute ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

I'm not concerned about cost when it comes to super stars/playmakers, especially when it overnight makes you a serious threat to win it all.

 

Going with a drafted rookie or Eason eliminates any chance of a deep playoff run and frankly probably be fortunate to even contend for a wild card. 

He is 38. You give up to many future picks and we don’t win a SB and he decides to retire. Your then paying for a guy that you don’t even still have on your team.

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Daniel           Georgia CB           6'0''        183 171.           Camryn Bynum Cal          CB           6'0''        198 172.           Jermar Jefferson              Oregon State     RBC        5'9"        215 173.           Jose Borregales Miami (FL)           PK           5'10"      205 174.           Alaric Jackson    Iowa      OT          6'6"        315 175.           Brennan Eagles Texas    WR         6'2"        225 176.           Tommy Doyle    Miami (OH)         OT          6'8''        326 177.           Jonathan Marshall           Arkansas              DL1T      6'3"        317 178.           Shane Buechele SMU      QB          6'1"        207 179.           Joshua Kaindoh Florida State       EDGE     6'7"        261 180.           James Hudson   Cincinnati            OT          6'5"        310 181.           Benjamin St-Juste            Minnesota          CB           6'3"        200 182.           Demetric Felton                UCLA     RBC        5'9"        189 183.           Victor Dimukeje Duke     EDGE     6'2"        265 184.           Xavier Kelly         Arkansas              DL3T      6'4"        305 185.           Kary Vincent Jr. LSU        CB           5'10"      182 186.           Noah Gray           Duke     TE           6'4"        240 187.           Adrian Ealy          Oklahoma           OT          6'6"        327 188.           Michal Menet   Penn State          OC          6'4''        305 189.           Pressley Harvin III            Georgia Tech      P             6'0"        255 190.           Amen Ogbongbemiga    Oklahoma State OLB        6'1"        231 191.           T.J. Vasher          Texas Tech          WR         6'6"        210 192.           Josh Imatorbhebhe         Illinois   WR         6'2"        215 193.           Matt Bushman  BYU        TE           6'5"        245 194.           Stevie Scott        Indiana RB           6'2"        231 195.           Brady Christensen           BYU        OT          6'6''        300 196.           Quintin Morris   Bowling Green  TE           6'4"        248 197.           Riley Patterson Memphis             PK           6'0"        190 198.           Malcolm Koonce              Buffalo EDGE     6'3"        250 199.           Robert Rochell   Central Arkansas              CB           6'0''        195 200.           Ben Mason         Michigan              FB           6'3"        254
    • Bender honey we love you SHUT UP BABY I KNOW IT
    • Trade 1: Miami offer picks No.3, No.18, No.50 and Tua Tagavailova to Texans for DeShaun Watson   Trade 2: WFT offers pick No.19 to NYJ for pick No.34 and Sam Darnold   Trade 3: Carolina offers pick No.8 and pick No.104 to Houston for Tua, pick No.18,  and pick No.113   Trade 4: Indianapolis Colts offer pick No.21 (1st) and pick No.118 (4th) to Las Vegas Raiders for Derek Carr   Trade 5: Tennessee Titans offer Pick No.22, Pick No.53 and Pick No.86 to Denver Broncos for Pick No.9   Trade 6: Las Vegas Raiders offer Pick No.21 and Pick No.145 for Carson Wentz and Pick No.37   Trade 7: Carolina Panthers offer Pick No.113 to Eagles for Zach Ertz   Trade 8: New England Patriots trade Patrick Surtain and a 4th rounder to the Los Angeles Chargers for Jaylen Waddle   Trade 9: Los Angeles Chargers trade Patrick Surtain to Carolina Panthers for pick No.18 and No.73   Trade 10: Cleveland Browns trade Jarvis Landry and Pick No.123 to Chicago Bears for their 3rd round pick No.84   Trade 11: Pittsburgh Steelers trade Pick No.55 (2nd), Pick No.88 (3rd) and Pick No.192 (6th) to Bucs for pick No.32   Trade 12: Houston Texans trade pick No.50, No.100 and No.104 to New Orleans Saints for Marshon Lattimore   Round 1   1.  Jacksonville (1-15) - Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson 2.  NY Jets (2-14) - Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State 3.  Houston from Miami - from Houston (4-12) - Zach Wilson, QB, BYU 4.  Atlanta (4-12) - Penei Sowell, OT, Oregon 5.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU 6.  Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State 7.  Detroit (5-11) - Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State 8.  Houston from Carolina (5-11) - DaVonta Smith, WR, Alabama 9.  Titans from Denver (5-11) - Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan 10.  Dallas (6-10) - Rashawn Slater, OT, Northwestern 11.  NY Giants (6-10) - Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida 12.  San Francisco (6-10) - Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech 13.  New England from LA Chargers (7-9) - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama 14.  Minnesota (7-9) - Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami 15.  Carolina from LA Chargers from New England (7-9) - Patrick Surtain, CB, Alabama 16.  Arizona (8-8) - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina 17.  Las Vegas (8-8) - Jaelen Philips, EDGE, Miami 18.  Chargers from Carolina from Houston from Miami (10-6) - Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue 19.  NY Jets From WFT* (7-9) - Najee Harris RB Alabama 20.  Chicago* (8-8) - Alijah Vera-Tucker OT USC 21.  Philadelphia from Las Vegas from Indianapolis* (11-5) - Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota 22.  Denver from Tennessee* (11-5) - Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech 23.  NY Jets - from Seattle* (12-4) - Zaven Collins, OLB/DE, Tulsa 24.  Pittsburgh* (12-4) - Jalen Mayfield, OT, Michigan 25.  Jacksonville - from LA Rams* (10-6) - Trevon Moehring, S, TCU 26.  Cleveland* (11-5) - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame 27.  Baltimore* (11-5) - Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida 28.  New Orleans* (12-4) - Patrick Jones II, DE, Pittsburgh 29.  Green Bay* (13-3) - Terrance Marshall, WR, LSU 30.  Buffalo* (13-3) - Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State 31.  Kansas City* (14-2) - Wyatt Davis, OG/C, Ohio State 32.  Pittsburgh from Tampa Bay* (11-5) - Mac Jones, QB, Alabama   Houston -> Miami: For Laremy Tunsil Miami -> Houston: For DeShaun Watson Carolina -> Houston: For Tua LA Rams -> Jacksonville: For Jalen Ramsey Seattle -> NY Jets: For Jamal Adams WFT -> NY Jets For Sam Darnold Indianapolis -> Las Vegas For Derek Carr Tennessee -> Denver (1st, 2nd and 3rd for pick No. 9, Kwity Paye) Las Vegas -> Philadelphia for Carson Wentz New England -> Chargers for Jaylen Waddle Carolina -> Chargers for Patrick Surtain Pittsburgh -> Tampa Bay for Mac Jones     Round 2   33.  Jacksonville (1-15) - Sam Cosmi, OT, Texas 34.  WFT From NY Jets (2-14) - Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama 35.  Atlanta (4-12) - Creed Humphrey, OG, Oklahoma 36.  Miami - from Houston (4-12) - Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson 37.  Las Vegas From Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Asante Samuel Jr., CB, Florida State 38.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - Christian Barmore, DL, Alabama 39.  Carolina (5-11) - Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame 40.  Denver (5-11) - Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State 41.  Detroit (5-11) - Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss 42.  NY Giants (6-10) - Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State 43.  San Francisco (6-10) - Jevon Holland, S, Oregon 44.  Dallas (6-10) - Jay Tufele, DT, USC 45.  Jacksonville - from Minnesota (7-9) - Jackson Carmon, OT, Clemson 46.  New England (7-9) - Joseph Ossai, EDGE/OLB, Texas 47.  LA Chargers (7-9) - Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota State 48.  Las Vegas (8-8) - Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri 49.  Arizona (8-8) - Walker Little, OT, Stanford 50.  New Orleans From Houston from Miami (10-6) - Dylan Moses, LB, Alabama 51.  WFT* (7-9) - Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State 52.  Chicago* (8-8) - Kyle Trask, QB, Florida 53.  Denver from Tennessee* (11-5) - Jabril Cox, LB, LSU 54.  Indianapolis* (11-5) - Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington 55.  Tampa Bay  from Pittsburgh* (12-4) - Carlos Basham, DE, Wake Forest 56.  Seattle* (12-4) - Brady Christiansen, OT, BYU 57.  LA Rams* (10-6) - Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama 58.  Baltimore* (11-5) - Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, Georgia 59.  Cleveland* (11-5) - Richie Grant, Safety, UCF 60.  New Orleans* (12-4) - Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern 61.  Buffalo* (13-3) - Ronnie Perkins, EDGE, Oklahoma 62.  Green Bay* (13-3) - Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa 63.  Kansas City* (14-2) - Josh Myers, C, Ohio State 64.  Tampa Bay* (11-5) - Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia   Houston -> Miami: Laremy Tunsil Minnesota -> Jacksonville: Yannick Ngakoue NY Jets -> WFT in Sam Darnold trade Philadelphia -> Las Vegas in Carson Wentz trade Miami -> Houston: For DeShaun Watson Houston -> New Orleans For Marshon Lattimore Tennessee -> Denver (1st, 2nd and 3rd for pick No. 9, Kwity Paye) Pittsburgh -> Tampa Bay for Mac Jones     Round 3   65.  Jacksonville (1-15) - Tyler Shelvin, DL, LSU 66.  NY Jets (2-14) - Marquez Stevenson, WR, Houston 67.  Houston (4-12) - Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio State 68.  Atlanta (4-12) - Marvin Wilson, DL, FSU 69.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati 70.  Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse 71.  Denver (5-11) - Elijah Molden, CB, Washington 72.  Detroit (5-11) - Alim McNeil, DL, NC State 73.  Los Angeles Chargers From Carolina (5-11) - Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State 74.  WFT - from San Francisco (6-10) - Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC 75.  Dallas (6-10) - Aaron Robinson, CB, Central Florida 76.  NY Giants (6-10) - Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford 77.  New England (7-9) - Jamie Newman, QB, Georgia 78.  LA Chargers (7-9) - Rashad Weaver, DE, Pittsburgh 79.  Minnesota (7-9) - Osa Odighizuwa, DT, UCLA 80.  Arizona (8-8) - Payton Turner, DE, Houston 81.  Las Vegas (8-8) - Hamsah Nasirldeen, S, FSU 82.  Miami (10-6) - Tylan Wallace, WR, Oklahoma State 83.  WFT* (7-9) - Deonte Brown, OG, Alabama 84.  Cleveland From Chicago* (8-8) - Joe Tryon, DE, Washington 85.  Indianapolis* (11-5) - Jordan Smith, DE, UAB 86.  Denver From Tennessee* (11-5) - Ar'Darius Washington, S, TCU 87.  NY Jets - from Seattle* (12-4) - Andre Cisco, S, Syracuse 88.  Tampa Bay From Pittsburgh* (12-4) - Camerone McGrone, LB, Michigan 89.  Detroit - from LA Rams* (10-6) - Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee 90.  Cleveland* (11-5) - Shakur Brown, CB, Michigan State 91.  Minnesota - from Baltimore* (11-5) - Ben Cleveland, OG, Georgia 92.  Cleveland - from New Orleans* (12-4) - D’Wayne Eskridge, WR, Western Michigan 93.  Green Bay* (13-3) - Chazz Surratt, OLB, North Carolina 94.  Buffalo* (13-3) - Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia 95.  Kansas City* (14-2) - Jaelon Darden, WR, North Texas 96.  Tampa Bay* (11-5) - Israel Mukumanu, CB, South Carolina   Baltimore -> Minnesota: Yannick Ngakoue LA Rams -> Detroit: Matthew Stafford New England stripped of draft pick because of Spygate II New Orleans -> Cleveland: 2020 picks San Francisco -> Washington: Trent Williams Seattle -> NY Jets: Jamal Adams Tennessee -> Denver (1st, 2nd and 3rd for pick No. 9, Kwity Paye) Carolina -> Chargers for Patrick Surtain Chicago -> Cleveland in Jarvis Landry trade Pittsburgh -> Tampa Bay for Mac Jones     Round 4 97.   Jacksonville (1-15) - Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina 98.   NY Jets (2-14) - Chubba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State 99.   Atlanta (4-12) - Paris Ford, S, Pittsburgh 100.  New Orleans from Houston (4-12) - Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina 101.  Cleveland - from Philadelphia (4-11-1) - Hamilcar Rashed, EDGE, Oregon 102.  Cincinnati (4-11-1) - Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville 103.  Detroit (5-11) - Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC 104.  New Orleans from Houston from Carolina (5-11) - Jamien Sherwood, S, Auburn 105.  Denver (5-11) - Quinn Meinerz, OG/OC , Wisconsin - Whitewater 106.  Dallas (6-10) - Jaylen Twyman DT, Pitt 107.  NY Giants (6-10) - Marlon Williams, WR, UCF 108.  San Francisco (6-10) - Aaron Banks, OG, Notre Dame 109.  LA Chargers (7-9) - Justin Hilliard, LB, Ohio State 110.  Minnesota (7-9) 111.  LA Chargers from New England (7-9) 112.  Las Vegas from Miami - from Las Vegas (8-8) 113.  Eagles from Carolina from Houston - from Arizona (8-8) 114.  Miami (10-6) 115.  WFT* (7-9) 116.  Minnesota - from Chicago* (8-8) 117.  Tennessee* (11-5) 118.  Las Vegas from Indianapolis* (11-5) 119.  Pittsburgh* (12-4) 120.  Seattle* (12-4) 121.  Jacksonville - from LA Rams* (10-6) 122.  Baltimore* (11-5) 123.  Chicago from Cleveland* (11-5) 124.  New Orleans* (12-4) 125.  Minnesota - from Buffalo* (13-3) 126.  Green Bay* (13-3) 127.  Kansas City* (14-2) 128.  Tampa Bay* (11-5)     Arizona -> Houston: De'Andre Hopkins Buffalo -> Minnesota: Stefon Diggs Chicago -> Minnesota: 2020 picks LA Rams -> Jacksonville: Jalen Ramsey Philadelphia -> Cleveland: Genard Avery Las Vegas -> Miami: Raekwon McMillan Miami -> Las Vegas: Lynn Bowden Jr. Carolina -> Houston: Tua trade Houston -> Carolina: Tua trade Carolina -> Eagles: Zach Ertz trade Indianapolis -> Las Vegas: Carr trade New England -> LA Chargers: Patrick Surtain Cleveland -> Chicago: Jarvis Landry trade Houston -> New Orleans: Lattimore trade
    • IF MN doesn't pick till tomorrow.....   With 111, the Chargers will select   iOL/C Quinn Meinerz   or OG Kendrick Green, if Meinerez is gone.    
    • With the 109th pick,    Chargers select LB Justin Hilliard from OSU.   Surprised he wasn't up higher on the big board. PFF has him as a late 2nd.     Minnesota Vikings and @coltsfanmurf are on the clock.
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