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4 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yah, the problem is we are quickly moving toward that group too. We have Braden, Quenton and Leonard to give contract to/extend over the next year... They can easily go for 50-55M. And we still have no QB signed for next year. 

Yup, but we're starting in a better spot, so at least in position to poach some deals. Better that, than having to sell for pennies on the dollar.

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I don't see why Colts won't bring back Rivers for one more year. And depending on Eason's development, he will be the number two.

Was enjoying this thread and opinions until I saw "Mitch Trubisky" as a serious option.

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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:

JMV has a lions media guy on. He is almost convincing me Stafford would be a very good fit here lol. It would buy even more time to see what Eason has or draft another QB. 

 

Would you guys give up our first for him? Similar to what we did with Buckner. 

Absolutely.  He would be our guy for many years to come.  

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Just now, stitches said:

True, but we still have to be careful how we spend. 

Oh, absolutely.

 

One thing good about the current market, any of our FAs we want to keep, will be a lot easier to resign. Autry, Houston, Walker, Hilton, etc.. Rhodes is the only one I could see getting a healthy offer that we might not want to match. 

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The more I'm looking at our cap situation and pending FAs over the next year or two, the more it seems to me like the best decision going forward would be to go pick our QB of the future from the draft. Addressing QB with cheap rookie contract would be great for our situation IMO. Of course... the regular caveat applies - IF Ballard and Reich love a QB from the draft. 

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2 minutes ago, stitches said:

The more I'm looking at our cap situation and pending FAs over the next year or two, the more it seems to me like the best decision going forward would be to go pick our QB of the future from the draft. Addressing QB with cheap rookie contract would be great for our situation IMO. Of course... the regular caveat applies - IF Ballard and Reich love a QB from the draft. 

Same could be said about DE too though. Or LT. All 3 are high dollar positions that we must solve for. I'm honestly most worried about DE since both our starters are FAs. Personally, I want both Autry and Houston back so we can push the need off for another year or so. 

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3 minutes ago, stitches said:

The more I'm looking at our cap situation and pending FAs over the next year or two, the more it seems to me like the best decision going forward would be to go pick our QB of the future from the draft. Addressing QB with cheap rookie contract would be great for our situation IMO. Of course... the regular caveat applies - IF Ballard and Reich love a QB from the draft. 

 

Probably right. I'm just not ready to give up on this little window we have right now. We still need to add 3-4 players for 2021 -- WR, CB, Edge, LT -- and I'm not sure we realistically can. If we're not better at those positions, I don't see us competing for a SB. So a mini reset is probably the right move.

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8 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Same could be said about DE too though. Or LT. All 3 are high dollar positions that we must solve for. I'm honestly most worried about DE since both our starters are FAs. Personally, I want both Autry and Houston back so we can push the need off for another year or so. 

You can probably get 2 DEs or DE and LT with the money you would have to give to a QB in FA for example. For example, the caphit for Stafford in 2021 is 33M. You can absolutely get 2 quality DEs for that. You would have to give more to Dak probably. Probably have to give Rivers 25M... 

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1 minute ago, stitches said:

You can probably get 2 DEs or DE and LT with the money you would have to give to a QB in FA for example. 

I agree, which is why I think Rivers who was top 10ish stat wise, was a value at 25M. 

If we're talking about minimum top 10 at position (for baseline).

 

10th paid QB - 30M/year

10th paid LT - 14.5M

10th paid DE/Edge - 17M

 

I just don't think there's a QB available at 21 this year that will be top 10ish stat wise. Mack has too many limitations, and he was surrounded by an ungodly amount of talent. Trask or Newman could turn out to be very good, but wouldn't take either till our 2nd. And I wouldn't use our capital to move up to take Fields, Wilson, or Lance. I think all 3 have high bust potential. 

 

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53 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

My guess is Stafford stays. Lions at number seven are going to miss out most likely on the top 3 QB. Lance would probably still be there or they could move up I guess. But 7 is kind of a weird spot depending on how things fall.

 

If the Lions get our first rounder for Stafford, it is a slam dunk for them to move up a few spots and gain a 2nd or 3rd rounder from the team they trade with.

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Just now, EastStreet said:

I agree, which is why I think Rivers who was top 10ish stat wise, was a value at 25M. 

If we're talking about minimum top 10 at position (for baseline).

 

10th paid QB - 30M/year

10th paid LT - 14.5M

10th paid DE/Edge - 17M

 

I just don't think there's a QB available at 21 this year that will be top 10ish stat wise. Mack has too many limitations, and he was surrounded by an ungodly amount of talent. Trask or Newman could turn out to be very good, but wouldn't take either till our 2nd. And I wouldn't use our capital to move up to take Fields, Wilson, or Lance. I think all 3 have high bust potential. 

 

You don't pick QB for his rookie year, you pick him for the next 10-15 years hopefully. I don't expect him to be great year one. Also... I'm on the record now with my very first mock off-season(you can see it here)  that I would be good with us giving up some assets to move up in the draft for one of the top QBs... We might take a step back next year but... we might take a step back with Rivers too... we have no guarantee he will play at top 10 level either(he's 40 after all). 

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1 minute ago, Crush22 said:

Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 years.

That was like... 20 years ago and he sat behind another legend in Brett Favre. He also was a 1st round pick. Eason is literally the only QB with a contract witht the team right now and they've already said he won't be even competing for the starting spot, before they even know who will be on the team. 

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11 minutes ago, stitches said:

You don't pick QB for his rookie year, you pick him for the next 10-15 years hopefully. I don't expect him to be great year one. Also... I'm on the record now with my very first mock off-season(you can see it here)  that I would be good with us giving up some assets to move up in the draft for one of the top QBs... We might take a step back next year but... we might take a step back with Rivers too... we have no guarantee he will play at top 10 level either(he's 40 after all). 

I don't either, I just don't see a QB I really like this year other than Lawrence. And I'm also not ready to say "2021" is a rebuild... I'll take Rivers back, upgrade the pass D and maybe a WR, and take another shot. And hopefully, some better play calling to go with it. 

 

I saw your draft. No way I'm giving up 2 first round picks for Lance. I actually like him better than Fields and Wilson, but looking at his 2019 schedule, it's just too much for me looking at his YPG avg and non-D1 comp. 

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10 minutes ago, stitches said:

I'm not sure if it was coming from the Colts but I have distinct memories about arguing with people on here about the Colts' plan for Chad Kelly.

Yeah fans did. The difference with the Zak keefer story was those quotes for Eason came from the organization.  The colts never said anything about Kelly.

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2 hours ago, stitches said:

That was like... 20 years ago and he sat behind another legend in Brett Favre. He also was a 1st round pick. Eason is literally the only QB with a contract witht the team right now and they've already said he won't be even competing for the starting spot, before they even know who will be on the team. 

20 years ago?

You sure about that?

BTW....Eason isn't sitting behind Mike Pagel.

It's not like Eason was actually projected to go the fourth round before the draft. He just fell in our lap.

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1 hour ago, danlhart87 said:

 I like that he has Jones as top fit for Colts but his comment makes zero sense. 

 

How are the Colts a team with a top 3 pass OL the worst place for any QB?

Srill don't  trust mac jones

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1 hour ago, danlhart87 said:

 I like that he has Jones as top fit for Colts but his comment makes zero sense. 

 

How are the Colts a team with a top 3 pass OL the worst place for any QB?

Never heard of him

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