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It amazes me how this forum is after a loss. Colts currently are the 7th Seed in the AFC and some of you act as if they have already been eliminated.    I know its hard to see the light at t

You guys will be fine. You’ll make the playoffs. I have always thought our fan base gets along great with you guys and there is hardly any animosity between our 2 teams. You guys might disagree but we

This roster is primed for the next level with a great QB. Which to me speaks of how great Ballard has been.    Its funny honestly the fans that crown this team great are the first to crumble

9 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

The only game I got to see live was Colts Texans 2017 with the greatest QB sneaker of all time Jacoby 

I have been to around 50 games or so but I live here in Indy. Haven't been to one since the 2013 season though. We actually played the Texans that week and blew them out 25-3 led by Luck. Greatest game I ever attended was the Sunday night game when we beat the Pats 35-34 after being down big in 2009. That was unreal. I was also at the Cowboys game in 1999 when Harrison burned Deion Sanders. We won that game as well.

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Just now, w87r said:

Sorry, I dont even drink and had the same thought.

I have never drank and will most likely will continue that trend 

Just now, Arodgers12 said:

I think the 2006 Colts were better than the 2009 Colts. Would you agree?

Both are great

2005 are the best to not win it all

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I'm cautiously optimistic after the loss. We win games in the trenches. We protect our QB and eliminate your running game. We tried to make it work without Kelly, but losing Castonzo was too much to overcome. You saw the difference in the first play without him. Expecting to slow down the Titan running game without Autry or Buckner was delusional. Hopefully we get some guys back for Houston. If we do, I expect us to get back on track. 

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have been to around 50 games or so but I live here in Indy. Haven't been to one since the 2013 season though. We actually played the Texans that week and blew them out 25-3 led by Luck. Greatest game I ever attended was the Sunday night game when we beat the Pats 35-34 after being down big in 2009. That was unreal. I was also at the Cowboys game in 1999 when Harrison burned Deion Sanders. We won that game as well.

That game was in 2009?! I remember watching that like it was yesterday. Weren’t the Pats up huge too? If I recall I remember watching that game on a Sunday night.

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Just now, Solon said:

I'm cautiously optimistic after the loss. We win games in the trenches. We protect our QB and eliminate your running game. We tried to make it work without Kelly, but losing Castonzo was too much to overcome. You saw the difference in the first play without him. Expecting to slow down the Titan running game without Autry or Buckner was delusional. Hopefully we get some guys back for Houston. If we do, I expect us to get back on track. 

This forum is going off the deep end if we lose Sunday 

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4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have been to around 50 games or so but I live here in Indy. Haven't been to one since the 2013 season though. We actually played the Texans that week and blew them out 25-3 led by Luck. Greatest game I ever attended was the Sunday night game when we beat the Pats 35-34 after being down big in 2009. That was unreal. I was also at the Cowboys game in 1999 when Harrison burned Deion Sanders. We won that game as well.

You ever see The Colts play Us or the Vikings?

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Just now, danlhart87 said:

This forum is going off the deep end if we lose Sunday 

I'll be upset too if we lose on Sunday, especially if we get some of our guys back. Can't lose 3 divisional games and expect to play in January when you're not a world beater tbh.

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3 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I have never drank and will most likely will continue that trend 

Both are great

2005 are the best to not win it all

I thought the Vikings were better than the Saints in 2009. I do think that Indy had a chance to beat Minnesota more than they did against the Saints. I just felt the Colts matchup better with the Vikings better than the Saints. I think MN would have won but it would have been a very close game. Obviously I hate Minnesota so I would have rooted for Indy.

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1 minute ago, Solon said:

I'll be upset too if we lose on Sunday, especially if we get some of our guys back. Can't lose 3 divisional games and expect to play in January when you're not a world beater tbh.

Colts can still make playoffs even with loss

 

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah time flies doesn't it lmao . It was a Sunday night in 2009. Pats were 34-14 at one time. 

I remember watching the entire game and Al Michaels was fired up when Belicheck went for it on 4th and 1 and missed it.

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1 minute ago, Arodgers12 said:

You ever see The Colts play Us or the Vikings?

I haven't believe it or not. I have seen the Bears once though and that was the only road game I ever attended. That was in 2004 and we won big in that one. Our offense was lethal that day. I have seen the Texans and Jags a bunch, those tickets were always cheap back in the day.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I haven't believe it or not. I have seen the Bears once though and that was the only road game I ever attended. That was in 2004 and we won big in that one. Our offense was lethal that day. I have seen the Texans and Jags a bunch, those tickets were always cheap back in the day.

I remember that game. I have a great memory. Didn’t you guys win 45-17 or something like that?

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Just now, danlhart87 said:

Colts can still make playoffs even with loss

 

Definitely. Cleveland has to play Baltimore and Pittsburgh again if I'm not mistaken. Raiders are inconsistent. Dolphins are well-coached, but where's the proven talent on both sides of the ball? Most of these teams have just as many questions surrounding them as us. I'm just saying 3 divisional losses will be very hard to overcome. Have to take into account AFC record when deciding who gets to make the dance. Lot of teams will be floating around 9-7 or 10-6.

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Just now, Solon said:

Definitely. Cleveland has to play Baltimore and Pittsburgh again if I'm not mistaken. Raiders are inconsistent. Dolphins are well-coached, but where's the proven talent on both sides of the ball? Most of these teams have just as many questions surrounding them as us. I'm just saying 3 divisional losses will be very hard to overcome. Have to take into account AFC record when deciding who gets to make the dance. Lot of teams will be floating around 9-7 or 10-6.

Plus Colts play Raiders which could ultimately effect things 

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4 minutes ago, Arodgers12 said:

I remember that game. I have a great memory. Didn’t you guys win 45-17 or something like that?

Yeah I think it was 41-17. Edge went off that game and had over 200 Yards and Wayne had a huge day too. Bears fans were talking junk before the game but by the 3rd Qtr it was silent lmao 

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah I think it was 41-17. Edge went off that game and had over 200 Yards and Wayne had a huge day too. Bears fans were talking junk before the game but by the 3rd Qtr it was silent lmao 

How could they say anything? They sucked back then and still do. That 2006 team was tough though.

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15 minutes ago, Arodgers12 said:

I think the 2006 Colts were better than the 2009 Colts. Would you agree?

2006 has to be rated #1 because we won the SB but 2005 was loaded, we just folded against Pitt. 2009 wasn't as loaded as those 2 teams, Harrison was retired by then, also in 2009 Bob Sanders played like 1 game.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

2006 has to be rated #1 because we won the SB but 2005 was loaded, we just folded against Pitt. 2009 wasn't as loaded as those 2 teams, Harrison was retired by then, also in 2009 Bob Sanders played like 1 game.

How bout the 2000 team?

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

2006 has to be rated #1 because we won the SB but 2005 was loaded, we just folded against Pitt. 2009 wasn't as loaded as those 2 teams, Harrison was retired by then, also in 2009 Bob Sanders played like 1 game.

Don't remind me of Vanderjagt 

 

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1 minute ago, Arodgers12 said:

How bout the 2000 team?

My top 3 are:

1. 2006

2. 2005

3. 2009

 

That is just the Indianapolis era. The 1995 team was really good as well. That team had a solid defense and Harbaugh played unreal that season, he was so clutch a lot like Luck was in 2012 with those comebacks.

 

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

My top 3 are:

1. 2006

2. 2005

3. 2009

 

That is just the Indianapolis era. The 1995 team was really good as well. That team had a solid defense and Harbaugh played unreal that season, he was so clutch a lot like Luck was in 2012 with those comebacks.

 

I think we played you guys in 95 too. I can’t remember if we won or lost.

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9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

You guys still went to the SB that year led by Favre. We had the worst record in the league but it led to drafting #18.

Isn't it funny the Luck we had at QB but Bears have the worst time 

 

No pun intended 

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2 hours ago, DougDew said:

 

I think you got bitten by a ghost of some point made 5 years ago and responded to that ghost, thinking that's what I said. 

 

Are you better with numbers?

 

Each set of numbers.... 50+40...compared to...40+50 . add up to 90.   But, they achieve 90 in different ways.

 

And in order to get to the goal of 100, you need to add the same level...10...to where ever you are short.  Lets say 10 equals the talent needed to get about 3 more wins in a season.

 

Even though the individual components have different levels themselves, the current aggregate level of 90 is the same level you were at 5 to 7 years ago.   

 

How about this number as an explanation. 

 

125 million.  Back then, we had talent concentrated into a $125M QB, but no Oline and no ILBs.  That got us about a consistent 10-6 record.

 

Now, based upon the current contract estimations, we're going to have about $125M invested in a lower talented QB, but a better C, LG, and ILB.  Same overall level of talent, just disbursed differently.  And about the same 10-6 record and first round playoff loss.  

 

It sounds like you think the talent disbursal of a less talented QB but a better C, LG, and ILB means that the team has more overall talent than what it did before when the talent was wrapped up into one player that got us to the 10-6?

 

I think its the same level of talent, just spread out differently.

 

We didn't go far enough before because we never got what we needed, an oline and a D.  And we ain't going any farther now despite having an oline and a D, unless we get a QB.  (and still maintain same talent at #1WR and LT we had 5-7 years ago)

 

Understand?

 

The concept has nothing to do with Ballard or Grigson. 

 

 

 

  

 

 

Doug ...    I’ll put this as simply as I can...

 

The roster that Rivers has is better than the roster that Luck had.   You may disagree.  Maybe others here might agree with you.  But that’s my view. 


Otherwise,  We are so far apart, we’re going to have to agree to disagree and let it go at that.   Fair enough? 

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11 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Doug ...    I’ll put this as simply as I can...

 

The roster that Rivers has is better than the roster that Luck had.   You may disagree.  Maybe others here might agree with you.  But that’s my view. 


Otherwise,  We are so far apart, we’re going to have to agree to disagree and let it go at that.   Fair enough? 

You guys disagree a lot :spit:

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Our overall roster is definitely better now so I agree with @NewColtsFan but I think what Dew is trying to say without a franchise a QB we will never be a 12-4 team or win a SB. It just depends really. Ravens won a SB with Trent Dilfer and Joe Flacco so who knows.

To follow this up, Rivers was a franchise QB but at the age of 38 is just considered good at this point, he isn't Andrew Luck of 2012-2014 or even 2018.

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