Miami Dolphins

[RollerColt]

I'd like to take a moment to talk about the excellent job Miami has done in the last couple of years to position themselves as a competitive team. The organization has done a masterful job (with a good touch of luck for measure) in setting themselves up for a bright future. They accrued a large amount of picks over the years, and stuck to their process. It required a lot of patience, and (hopefully) Tua can be their man as long as he stays healthy. 

 

Then, you have the Houston trade. The Texans are flatlining their way to a top 5 pick in the draft. But wait! Good ole' BoB threw the 2021 1st and 2nd round picks for Tunsil. That means that Miami can potentially make the playoffs this year, but still have a ridiculously high draft pick to barter to other teams. Simply astounding. 

[chad72]

Outside Buckner, Leonard and Nelson (and maybe Kelly), there is no one that would fetch a 1st or a 2nd on our roster.

 

So, when others have chimed in that they will take a few seasons of "stink" in exchange for a SB, I can see some merit to their sentiment. I just wish there was a way to get more draft picks. Contrary to what folks might want to happen, if we can trade our 1st rounder for an additional 2nd and 3rd in the same draft, and if we are drafting for WR and pass rushers in 2021, I would not be opposed to that.

[RollerColt]

23 minutes ago, chad72 said:

Outside Buckner, Leonard and Nelson (and maybe Kelly), there is no one that would fetch a 1st or a 2nd on our roster.

 

So, when others have chimed in that they will take a few seasons of "stink" in exchange for a SB, I can see some merit to their sentiment. I just wish there was a way to get more draft picks. Contrary to what folks might want to happen, if we can trade our 1st rounder for an additional 2nd and 3rd in the same draft, and if we are drafting for WR and pass rushers in 2021, I would not be opposed to that.

I feel more or less the same. Though a lot of it will hinge on the QB situation. We really could've used a preseason this year.

[chad72]

28 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I feel more or less the same. Though a lot of it will hinge on the QB situation. We really could've used a preseason this year.

 

Let us say the Redskins want to get back into Round 1 for a QB and we are happy with Rivers and win our division, and we pick at pick No.26 (say) with value 700.

 

If they pick anywhere at 40-42 and want to part with a 2nd and 3rd for our pick No.26, I would do that trade. 

[RollerColt]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Let us say the Redskins want to get back into Round 1 for a QB and we are happy with Rivers and win our division, and we pick at pick No.26 (say) with value 700.

 

If they pick anywhere at 40-42 and want to part with a 2nd and 3rd for our pick No.26, I would do that trade. 

That would be a very Ballard thing to do, heh.

[Yoshinator]

14 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Let us say the Redskins want to get back into Round 1 for a QB and we are happy with Rivers and win our division, and we pick at pick No.26 (say) with value 700.

 

If they pick anywhere at 40-42 and want to part with a 2nd and 3rd for our pick No.26, I would do that trade. 

 

10 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

That would be a very Ballard thing to do, heh.

A Ballard thing to do would be to trade our 1st rounder for the Redskins 2nd rounder in 2021 and 2nd rounder in 2022. He already did that trade in 2019 with them.

[danlhart87]

2 hours ago, RollerColt said:

I'd like to take a moment to talk about the excellent job Miami has done in the last couple of years to position themselves as a competitive team. The organization has done a masterful job (with a good touch of luck for measure) in setting themselves up for a bright future. They accrued a large amount of picks over the years, and stuck to their process. It required a lot of patience, and (hopefully) Tua can be their man as long as he stays healthy. 

 

Then, you have the Houston trade. The Texans are flatlining their way to a top 5 pick in the draft. But wait! Good ole' BoB threw the 2021 1st and 2nd round picks for Tunsil. That means that Miami can potentially make the playoffs this year, but still have a ridiculously high draft pick to barter to other teams. Simply astounding. 

I think it's more about Bill OBrien being an * than Dolphins being geniuses 

[Yoshinator]

2 hours ago, RollerColt said:

I'd like to take a moment to talk about the excellent job Miami has done in the last couple of years to position themselves as a competitive team. The organization has done a masterful job (with a good touch of luck for measure) in setting themselves up for a bright future. They accrued a large amount of picks over the years, and stuck to their process. It required a lot of patience, and (hopefully) Tua can be their man as long as he stays healthy. 

 

Then, you have the Houston trade. The Texans are flatlining their way to a top 5 pick in the draft. But wait! Good ole' BoB threw the 2021 1st and 2nd round picks for Tunsil. That means that Miami can potentially make the playoffs this year, but still have a ridiculously high draft pick to barter to other teams. Simply astounding. 

Yep, Texans are done for the forseeable future. No Hopkins. Fuller leaves after this year, Watt will probably retire soon as he's getting older and just a mess of injuries now. They don't have a 1st and 2nd round pick next year and no 1st this year, so their immediate future is stunted and crippled, and David Johnson won't last much longer. They are in BIG trouble. Did I mention they have to hope to hit on a new coach and GM with all that going on? Watson must hate it there, and they are no threat for the forseeable future. It's a battle between the Colts and Titans now for the division.

[Myles]

3 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

I think it's more about Bill OBrien being an * than Dolphins being geniuses 

i ted to agree.   The Dolphins took advantage of the *.   He wouldn't do that trade with the Colts because we are in the same division.  

The Dolphins are in great shape.   A top 5 pick in next years draft and they get to try Tua for 10 games to decide if he is the one going forward or if they need to draft a QB next year.   

[chad72]

3 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yep, Texans are done for the forseeable future. No Hopkins. Fuller leaves after this year, Watt will probably retire soon as he's getting older and just a mess of injuries now. They don't have a 1st and 2nd round pick next year and no 1st this year, so their immediate future is stunted and crippled, and David Johnson won't last much longer. They are in BIG trouble. Did I mention they have to hope to hit on a new coach and GM with all that going on? Watson must hate it there, and they are no threat for the forseeable future. It's a battle between the Colts and Titans now for the division.

 

What new GM and coach would want to be there for the next couple of years?

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

What new GM and coach would want to coach there for the next couple of years?

Exactly. They will have a tough time getting someone. Only selling point is Watson.

[chad72]

Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

Exactly. They will have a tough time getting someone. Only selling point is Watson.

 

Eric Bieniemy, the KC OC, should run from that job if given it, to be honest. Josh McDaniels might take it because his value is as low as it possibly could be.  

[Yoshinator]

Just now, chad72 said:

 

Eric Bieniemy, the KC OC, should run from that job if given it, to be honest. Josh McDaniels might take it because his value is as low as it possibly could be.  

Bieniemy should be able to get any job opening available to him next year. Only two I'd stay away from are the Jets and Texans. Any others are workable IMO. I agree with McDaniels, he'll have to take what he can at this point lol. His credibility is gone. Would love to see McDaniels on the Jets tbh. Would be hilarious.

[FortheWin]

Miami has done a great job. I like Tua a lot. I think they win the East. Bills look really bad the last few weeks.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Tua to the Colts in 2021?

 

Some talk is dolphins playing Tua now is to see what they have. With possibly a very high pick coming their way via Houston, they may be able to draft or maneuver to get Lawrence or Fields.

 

If that happens would you like colts make a play for Tua?

[danlhart87]

30 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

Tua to the Colts in 2021?

 

Some talk is dolphins playing Tua now is to see what they have. With possibly a very high pick coming their way via Houston, they may be able to draft or maneuver to get Lawrence or Fields.

 

If that happens would you like colts make a play for Tua?

That kinda depends on how he plays and if he plays well enough to win the East why would the Dolphins get rid of him?

[LJpalmbeacher2]

1 hour ago, danlhart87 said:

That kinda depends on how he plays and if he plays well enough to win the East why would the Dolphins get rid of him?

 

What if he refuses to denounce pineapple as his favorite fruit over oranges? 

[NannyMcafee]

17 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

Tua to the Colts in 2021?

 

Some talk is dolphins playing Tua now is to see what they have. With possibly a very high pick coming their way via Houston, they may be able to draft or maneuver to get Lawrence or Fields.

 

If that happens would you like colts make a play for Tua?

 

I feel a move for Tua was more realistic in the draft vs the very next year via trade. But maybe if the value is right. 

[runthepost]

They are 5-3 and Tua looked good yesterday 

[chad72]

13 minutes ago, runthepost said:

They are 5-3 and Tua looked good yesterday 

 

He gives them an element with his legs that Fitzmagic could not. Plus, as he gains experience and trust in their system, he tends to be accurate with his throws that he won't lose many games for them and just that by itself will keep them in more games than not. That was the problem with Fitzmagic, his floor was low though his ceiling could show flashes of high.

 

He might end up being the best QB that came out of Alabama when it is all said and done. Not that it is a huge standard to exceed but I see tons of potential in him.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 11/5/2020 at 3:34 PM, chad72 said:

 

What new GM and coach would want to be there for the next couple of years?

 

The kind who would like a multi year,  multi million dollar contract. 

Not to mention a young franchise QB.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 11/9/2020 at 8:32 AM, chad72 said:

 

He gives them an element with his legs that Fitzmagic could not. Plus, as he gains experience and trust in their system, he tends to be accurate with his throws that he won't lose many games for them and just that by itself will keep them in more games than not. That was the problem with Fitzmagic, his floor was low though his ceiling could show flashes of high.

 

He might end up being the best QB that came out of Alabama when it is all said and done. Not that it is a huge standard to exceed but I see tons of potential in him.

 

Yes, Tua gives them mobility,  good accuracy,  and the potential to be a good game manager at the very least with more experience. 

[Moosejawcolt]

On 11/5/2020 at 10:41 AM, danlhart87 said:

I think it's more about Bill OBrien being an * than Dolphins being geniuses 

 

On 11/5/2020 at 9:28 AM, chad72 said:

Outside Buckner, Leonard and Nelson (and maybe Kelly), there is no one that would fetch a 1st or a 2nd on our roster.

 

So, when others have chimed in that they will take a few seasons of "stink" in exchange for a SB, I can see some merit to their sentiment. I just wish there was a way to get more draft picks. Contrary to what folks might want to happen, if we can trade our 1st rounder for an additional 2nd and 3rd in the same draft, and if we are drafting for WR and pass rushers in 2021, I would not be opposed to that.

Yea, but the Dolphins traded away an elite LT and safety.  Have to replace those players using high picks so they kind of cancel each other out. And the Dolphins need to hit on thier picks. This is all for not if Tua is a bust

[holeymoley99]

Tua vs Herbert today....so far Herbert has been best rookie qb by quite a bit no offense to Burrow just a different level right now.