What WR is most likely to develop into Starting WR... Permanently?

[Myles 4,076]

Love the hindsight criticism.  

Remember when Polian drafted Brandon Burlsworth instead of of taking Joey Porter.   Man he screwed up.

[Zoltan 549]

27 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

Drills and 40 times do not measure game speed Mahomes ran a horrible 40 time Peyton Manning was around the same time . But Mahomes is mobile .   Dk is killing the game right now and with any qb he would be dominant 

Disagree you used QBs as examples I’m talking about WRs which acceleration changing directions is important for route running. Aside from his neck surgery it was his second biggest deterrent. 

[EastStreet 9,236]

21 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

We can agree to disagree I understand your points , I just think a good wr is a good wr. Dk would be fine here he is a Calvin Johnson clone

I'd just add that DK was seen a very raw WR in the draft, pour route runner, and possibly limited to a deep threat specialist. See NFL.com profile below.

 

You can certainly disagree with that, but it's why he fell to the end of round 2. If you recall, most of the buzz about him came after his combine, not because of his college production, which was not all that great. He was considered the 2nd best WR on his college team after AJ Brown.

 

He almost certainly wouldn't have broken out last year with JB. Carrol started him out as mostly a deep guy if you recall. Conversely, Reich took a deep threat specialist (Cain) and tried to make him into a possession receiver. That would have likely been DK's fate as well if he even cracked the line up. That, plus Reich's lack of deep calls, or JB's inability to throw deep, suggests little that DK would have been used similar to Seattle. 

 

Would he have been in play for starter this year? IDK. Campbell was, but he's what we needed (slot) last year. Keep in mind Campbell graded out top 2 of WRs in 2019, so it's not like taking Campbell over DK was controversial or anything.

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dekaylin-metcalf/32194d45-5436-3377-5806-d2746f1b94aa

[chad72 7,162]

3 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

I'd just add that DK was seen a very raw WR in the draft, pour route runner, and possibly limited to a deep threat specialist. See NFL.com profile below.

 

You can certainly disagree with that, but it's why he fell to the end of round 2. If you recall, most of the buzz about him came after his combine, not because of his college production, which was not all that great. He was considered the 2nd best WR on his college team after AJ Brown.

 

He almost certainly wouldn't have broken out last year with JB. Carrol started him out as mostly a deep guy if you recall. Conversely, Reich took a deep threat specialist (Cain) and tried to make him into a possession receiver. That would have likely been DK's fate as well if he even cracked the line up. That, plus Reich's lack of deep calls, or JB's inability to throw deep, suggests little that DK would have been used similar to Seattle. 

 

Would he have been in play for starter this year? IDK. Campbell was, but he's what we needed (slot) last year. Keep in mind Campbell graded out top 2 of WRs in 2019, so it's not like taking Campbell over DK was controversial or anything.

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dekaylin-metcalf/32194d45-5436-3377-5806-d2746f1b94aa

 

Exactly!!! He went to the right team. QBs that throw good accurate deep balls - RW is tops, Mahomes is right there with him, he would have been good in Houston too with Watson (thank goodness he did not go there). 

[Dogg63 2,047]

59 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

Dk would be fine here he is a Calvin Johnson clone

Um, no.

 

 

[EastStreet 9,236]

13 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Exactly!!! He went to the right team. QBs that throw good accurate deep balls - RW is tops, Mahomes is right there with him, he would have been good in Houston too with Watson (thank goodness he did not go there). 

Yup. He went to a place perfect for him. Carrol and RW.....

I hate to say it, but I think Reich would have shelved him last year, and would be underutilized this year as well, at least early in the year. I think Chud would have loved him though. 

[chad72 7,162]

10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Yup. He went to a place perfect for him. Carrol and RW.....

I hate to say it, but I think Reich would have shelved him last year, and would be underutilized this year as well, at least early in the year. I think Chud would have loved him though. 

 

Last year, it was mainly go routes and comeback routes. Now, he is catching back shoulder fades, slants and routes going across the field for YAC. You can never gauge the finished product based on what they are in college. If they had the talent and good hands that they showed against good competition, you draft them and how they develop becomes a testament to your staff's coaching abilities and the player's work ethic.

 

 

[EastStreet 9,236]

21 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Last year, it was mainly go routes and comeback routes. Now, he is catching back shoulder fades, slants and routes going across the field for YAC. You can never gauge the finished product based on what they are in college. If they had the talent and good hands that they showed against good competition, you draft them and how they develop becomes a testament to your staff's coaching abilities and the player's work ethic.

I agree for many that is the case. There are a lot of guys though that are also more well rounded coming into the league. And you can be very well rounded, and go to a wrong scheme fit, or poor QB situation, and none of it matters.

 

And quite frankly, if I were a WR that was a bit raw and great at going deep, I would not want to come to Indy based on what we've seen so far this year and last. Frank just doesn't go vert much with deep speed. And we have plenty of speed on the team.

[coming on strong 1,045]

50 minutes ago, Dogg63 said:

Um, no.

 

 

Dk is very young in the next couple years you will see him at the randy moss level taking over the league .    Just because he is on another team some colts fans cannot give him the proper respect he deserves .

[Dogg63 2,047]

34 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

colts fans cannot give him the proper respect he deserves

A. Darius Butler is not "some colts fan"

B. Darius didn't refuse to "properly respect" DK. He said show me DK doing what Megatron did in the video he linked before he'll buy into that type of comparison. That's quite reasonable.

 

I agree with Darius.

[BleedBlue4Shoe86 660]

Getting back on topic, I recently saw an article that talked about how a shuffling of the WR room could be coming this week because of injuries.  We could see DeMichael Harris again or even Patmon this week.  So we could start to see if these guys could be permanent fixtures in the WR room.

[CanuckColtsFan 355]

Pittman

[indyagent17 794]

Its hard to say with this group but Pittman has the size and speed but clearly needs to get better with playing time 

 

[Four2itus 4,901]

4 hours ago, Myles said:

Love the hindsight criticism.  

Remember when Polian drafted Brandon Burlsworth instead of of taking Joey Porter.   Man he screwed up.

Just think how brilliant fans perceive themselves when using hindsight. 

[Myles 4,076]

24 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

Just think how brilliant fans perceive themselves when using hindsight. 

Freaking Polian.   He could have drafted Tom Brady and had a great back up QB for over a decade and the road to more Superbowl victories would have been open for Manning and the Colts.  

[danlhart87 7,467]

On 11/4/2020 at 9:31 PM, Moosejawcolt said:

Hmmmmm. Pittman was suppose to b the most pro ready receiver coming out of the draft as told by the Colts. He was not very impressive even before the injury.   I loved Campbell coming out of the draft and loved that the Colts drafted him. He was not injury prone in college, but he has bad luck.  Injuries that he has suffered, I would imagine have some long term affect on his speed/athleticism.

 

11 receptions 157 yards since this was posted and a 21 yard rush

 

He's really stepped and not even you can deny that 

[crazycolt1 7,408]

57 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

11 receptions 157 yards since this was posted and a 21 yard rush

 

He's really stepped and not even you can deny that 

Don't matter. He will just go on to the next one he wants to have a problem with. 

He is just a miserable soul. 

[AZColt11 1,269]

I would say Campbell when he comes back.

[crazycolt1 7,408]

23 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

I would say Campbell when he comes back.

The key is him getting healthy and staying that way.

If so IMO he will be an excellent pair with Pittman.