Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

The Giants QB Daniel Jones


Recommended Posts

I just watched the Giants Bucs game and I have never watched Jones until tonight. That is one inaccurate QB. He had three wide open TD receivers and over threw all of them. What a shme because the Bucs struggled. The Giants could have easily won that game with  decent thrower.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, King Colt said:

I just watched the Giants Bucs game and I have never watched Jones until tonight. That is one inaccurate QB. He had three wide open TD receivers and over threw all of them. What a shme because the Bucs struggled. The Giants could have easily won that game with  decent thrower.

He forces a lot of throws in coverage when pressured. You gotta learn when to take sack or throw it away. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yep, @jshipp23 will tell you we need to trade for Daniel Jones. :thmup:

 

His decision making has not improved at all. 2 INTs trying to play hero ball, throwing it away and taking sacks is part of playing good QB. Being accurate is also very important, he was all over the place. Brady is a HOF mainly because of his pocket presence and accuracy, which was on full display in the game, but that shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

Josh Allen finally figured it out in Year 3. Let us hope for the Giants sake Daniel Jones makes a similar Year 3 jump.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I still love his talent...He tries to do too much and has a horrible line...He is still young..With good coaching and maturity I believe he will end up being a great QB..He played bad last night I agree...

I hope he plays awful and they give up on him and we can get him for a bag of peanuts..

Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

I still love his talent...He tries to do too much and has a horrible line...He is still young..With good coaching and maturity I believe he will end up being a great QB..He played bad last night I agree...

I hope he plays awful and they give up on him and we can get him for a bag of peanuts..

 

Makes you wonder though, why does WFT give up on Haskins for similar reasons while the Giants stick with Daniel Jones and the Titans with Mariota etc.? Why can't they just go with the understanding that all young QBs need to be coached up on the nuances?

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
42 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

I still love his talent...He tries to do too much and has a horrible line...He is still young..With good coaching and maturity I believe he will end up being a great QB..He played bad last night I agree...

I hope he plays awful and they give up on him and we can get him for a bag of peanuts..

 

Is accuracy teachable?  I've seen plenty from scouts over the years that perhaps with proper mechanics but past that, not really.

Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

Is accuracy teachable?  I've seen plenty from scouts over the years that perhaps with proper mechanics but past that, not really.

 

Accuracy can be slightly improved with chemistry and continuity. You understand the speed and timing of your pass catchers if you have worked with them for a couple of years. Happened with Josh Allen to an extent this year because accuracy was his biggest knock coming out of the draft but yes, like you said, there is only so much you can improve the accuracy if it is not something you are known for. When you lose teammates and continuity with different systems and pass catchers, it makes it harder.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, jskinnz said:

 

Is accuracy teachable?  I've seen plenty from scouts over the years that perhaps with proper mechanics but past that, not really.

"The young quarterback, he is still trying to do too much..But God bless him, he is hard to handle, and he is a kid who thinks he can make a play.."-Bruce Arians

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is the issue with thinking that every 2nd year QB is the next Mahomes. QB is a position that can take years to develop. I think Jones will be fine moving forward. New York needs to stick with him to see where he is for their future at QB. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, King Colt said:

I just watched the Giants Bucs game and I have never watched Jones until tonight. That is one inaccurate QB. He had three wide open TD receivers and over threw all of them. What a shme because the Bucs struggled. The Giants could have easily won that game with  decent thrower.

See, I've also watched games where he was very accurate..He had a bad game, he was amped up playing against Brady and was off...I wouldn't judge him off that 1 game...Youtube the Bucs and Giants game last year..He played great that game and brought them back to win..

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 11/3/2020 at 7:34 AM, chad72 said:

 

Makes you wonder though, why does WFT give up on Haskins for similar reasons while the Giants stick with Daniel Jones and the Titans with Mariota etc.? Why can't they just go with the understanding that all young QBs need to be coached up on the nuances?

Good question. It's just my take, but I think it may have to do with what they see behind the scenes, (practices, meetings) and other qualities. 

 

They may both (Jones & Haskins) have issues with accuracy, but perhaps one is working his tail off to improve and lead the team while the other is not? Maybe one of them is putting in the time to learn the offense better and study opposing defenses, and the other is not. And for that reason, the Giants still see hope in their young QB because they think that he can improve while the other is not showing enough and it's already evident that it's time to move on.

 

Just my thoughts without any data to back it up.

Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, ColtJax said:

The Giants will kill him like the Jets are killing Darnold. No line to block, no receivers to throw to and a revolving door of coaches. Both are getting killed every game.

 

Sterling Shepard, Darius Slayton and Evan Engram are all talented enough to throw to, the rest I agree.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • A number of websites have projected the size of the free agent contracts.    On PFF,  they will even show you their comparisons and the math used to make the final prediction for years and dollars.   BUT....   No where am I seeing anything that reflects the fact that teams are dealing with a lowered salary cap,  and they're all going to have roughly $15 million less to spend.    I don't see any predictions that reflect that world.    Seems counter-intuitive to me.    With all the talk we've all read about how the middle class players are going to bear the burden of smaller contracts,  I'm not seeing that anywhere in these predictions.     And frankly,  I don't understand it?   If you didn't know about how Covid has hurt the NFL,  you couldn't tell by the salary predictions anywhere.    To me,  it reads pretty much as business as usual.   So.....   is it just me?     Or has anyone else noticed this?     Your thoughts?  
    • Zierlein is always a good read.   And given he's tight with Ballard,  I always recommend that you read everything he says.   It's as close as we're going to get inside Ballard's head, other than hearing from CB ourselves.   Here, he lists 10 prospects, who, for a variety of reasons, he thinks they need a really good pro day to bump up their draft status.    On a personal note,  I was surprised to NOT see two of my Stanford kids on this list.    Neither Walker Little or Paulson Adebo are on his list.    Maybe he doesn't think either needs a great pro day.   But I'd disagree.    Frankly,  I think every player who opted out needs a very good pro day.    As good as they can make it.    The absence of the combine is seriously going to hurt a big number of kids.   Here's his article.    And it includes a hyper-link to the latest updated Pro Day Schedule.   Those get under way full speed this coming week.   https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-ten-prospects-who-could-use-a-pro-day-boost
    • Trade her in.   Every 3 - 4 years...... like a car. Make her think it was HER idea.
    • Imagine the players just running around in jocks with cups for their pants  
  • Members

×
×
  • Create New...