Frank Reich

[danlhart87 4,851]

4 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I'm ok with him.  He's not been proving that he's this offensive genius everyone made him out to be.  That said, he's better than Pagano by a long shot and the guys do seem to play hard for him. I'd like to see him let Rivers run full no huddle, from start to finish and mix it up.

I'm hoping he opens up things for Taylor soon. I believe he's averaging about 15 carries and I want to see that number go up.

[LJpalmbeacher2 1,912]

5 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I hate him. He is basically Pagano with a little more football knowledge. 

 

Reich is not young. He is inexperienced as a coach, but he doesn't have the years some of the younger coaches have to learn. He should know more by now. That's why I'm so hard on him. I expect this from a 35-40 year old coach, not a 58 year old coach.

 

Lol, reminds me of the scene from Million Dollar Baby. Eastwood  telling Hillary Swank about her opponent,  "she's younger, and more experienced than you". I loved that movie but not the ending.

 

About Reich, your right about him not being creative though in a interview he said the offense would be. The offense is actually opposite of what he said it would be... if you pay attention  to the obvious best offenses like KC, Rams etc... the difference is night & day on the creativity and playcalling. 

True he doesn't have the best playmakers at his disposal which makes more sense to not be so predictable. 

[krunk 12,860]

Seemed like the play calls were better from Frank when Luck was here.

[danlhart87 4,851]

1 minute ago, krunk said:

Seemed like the play calls were better from Frank when Luck was here.

Some people have all the luck 

 

[LJpalmbeacher2 1,912]

3 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

If you hate him and feel like he isn’t a good coach. Who would you want. I think he is amazing and if you listen to national shows he is regularly listed as one of the best coaches in the NFL. 

 

Amazing?  Really? 

[compuls1v3 425]

40 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I'm ok with him.  He's not been proving that he's this offensive genius everyone made him out to be.  That said, he's better than Pagano by a long shot and the guys do seem to play hard for him. I'd like to see him let Rivers run full no huddle, from start to finish and mix it up.

And let's run so we can get some play action pass in there too!

[danlhart87 4,851]

5 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

Amazing?  Really? 

Some people's trash are other people's treasure

[EastStreet 7,480]

3 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

If you hate him and feel like he isn’t a good coach. Who would you want. I think he is amazing and if you listen to national shows he is regularly listed as one of the best coaches in the NFL. 

I don't hate him at all. Still not sure what to think of him as a coach. But who are all the people regularly listing him as one of the best coaches in the NFL? Haven't seen him make one top 10 list. I've seen him in the 12-22 range which is average. And the high ranking (12th) I saw, even acknowledged that it might be too high.

[jlid 60]

I've only been a Colts fan since the early to mid 1990's, so maybe some of the older fans can help me, but it seems no matter the regime we have this weird spirit hanging over us forcing us to get off to a slow start every game, so I'm fine with Reich

[indykmj 63]

7 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

I would like to start off by saying that I fully support Frank Reich.

 

Frank is a great coach but his biggest weakness is being unprepared. He needs to do a much better job at getting the Colts ready from the get go.

 

These slow starts arent gonna fly with the fast paced Os like Packers and so forth. 

 

What are your thoughts on Reich?

 

Do you like him?

Do you hate him?

What would you like to see different?

 

  So a 'great' coach is unprepared ? And an 'unprepared' coach is great ?

 

  Hmmm....

 

  

[danlhart87 4,851]

4 minutes ago, indykmj said:

 

  So a 'great' coach is unprepared ? And an 'unprepared' coach is great ?

 

  Hmmm....

 

  

He has his flaws but I support him. He is a great leader and I can tell players like him.

[BleedBlue4Shoe86 669]

1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

Amazing?  Really? 

Yep.  Good Morning Football (Kyle Brandt and Peter Schrager), NFL Live/ Sunday NFL Countdown (Matt Hasselback, Randy Moss, Rex Ryan, Louis Riddick) , NFL on Fox (Terry Bradshaw, Jimmy Johnson),  Colin Cowherd, to name a few.

[AwesomeAustin 510]

Reich was a great hire considering the situation we were in with that buttwipe from NE bailing last second.  Buuuuuuttttt, still not a great coach.  He isn’t bad and we could do way worse. His play calling is a bit suspect and he reminds me of Pagano at times but can’t really think of many people I would take instead.   Just a bunch of crazy stuff happening to this team but they are still making lemonade out of it, changing coaches would only hurt.  

[danlhart87 4,851]

1 minute ago, AwesomeAustin said:

Reich was a great hire considering the situation we were in with that buttwipe from NE bailing last second.  Buuuuuuttttt, still not a great coach.  He isn’t bad and we could do way worse. His play calling is a bit suspect and he reminds me of Pagano at times but can’t really think of many people I would take instead.   Just a bunch of crazy stuff happening to this team but they are still making lemonade out of it, changing coaches would only hurt.  

Now I want lemonade thanks lol

[Jaredfor3 150]

7 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:I hate him. He is basically Pagano with a little more football knowledge. He starts slow, is unprepared, is conservative, makes the team boring to watch, is uncreative, and is one of those old-school coaches that goes with the veteran more times than not. 

 

I want to see him use our players to their strengths. He does that with Rivers a bit, but no one else. Come up with a gameplan. Pass the ball, run the ball, get aggressive. Show the opponent you want to tear them apart. Consistently put up points, take risks. Blitz more often then you do, get pressure and turnovers. Don't favor the veterans because they are older, play the best players all the time. Look at the top teams like the Chiefs, Ravens, and 49ers. Get ideas that you can mix with your own playbook to make the team better.

 

Reich is not young. He is inexperienced as a coach, but he doesn't have the years some of the younger coaches have to learn. He should know more by now. That's why I'm so hard on him. I expect this from a 35-40 year old coach, not a 58 year old coach.

Coach going for that 4th down against the Jags in week 1 is the opposite of being conservative. 
 

 

[EastStreet 7,480]

3 minutes ago, Jaredfor3 said:

Coach going for that 4th down against the Jags in week 1 is the opposite of being conservative. 

Because you go on 4th doesn't mean you're not risk averse, especially early in a game. Reich typically follows the analytics on those calls. That early call was 4&1 on the 3, and it was very early in the game. The problem was, he used Hines up the gut... 

[danlhart87 4,851]

2 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Because you go on 4th doesn't mean you're not risk averse, especially early in a game. Reich typically follows the analytics on those calls. That early call was 4&1 on the 3, and it was very early in the game. The problem was, he used Hines up the gut... 

I never see Colts games live in Texas unless they play Texans. Have they still been using Hines on 4th and short?

[Sumo63 498]

Hes on the high side of good so far.  I think Ballard has a slightly longer leash.  But the clock doesnt even start ticking until they install "their qb".  Should be next year. Then I think Reich has 3 years to "prove it".  Ballard likely has 5 (to try a different coach)...just my opinion,  but with as fair minded as irsay seems to be it sounds reasonable to me.

[EastStreet 7,480]

15 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I never see Colts games live in Texas unless they play Texans. Have they still been using Hines on 4th and short?

No, it's been better. But can't say he won't gain. Last game we were down 21 fast, so running in general went out the door for a while. If you have friends or family in IN, you should really look at getting a slingbox.

[Thunderbolt 390]

Reich is too soft, needs  to play key players more in key positions like JT. He needs to touch the ball more. 

[csmopar 10,777]

My biggest knock on Reich is that it almost appears he tries to fit players to his scheme and plays as opposed to scheming the plays around the player’s strengths 

[danlhart87 4,851]

10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

No, it's been better. But can't say he won't gain. Last game we were down 21 fast, so running in general went out the door for a while. If you have friends or family in IN, you should really look at getting a slingbox.

I unfortunately know nobody from Indy. I first became a fan during the Harbaugh era and judt stuck with them over the years .

[EastStreet 7,480]

26 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I unfortunately know nobody from Indy. I first became a fan during the Harbaugh era and judt stuck with them over the years .

Bummer. Why a fan of Harbaugh specifically?

[danlhart87 4,851]

I was about 8 or so at the time and kinda just picked a team and ran with it.

 

I posted a thread about first becoming a Colts fan too .

[coltfaninnewyork 644]

I like him but without consistent quarterback play ,I don’t care if your belichick you will not get to the promised land .No Brady pats 2-4

[danlhart87 4,851]

Just now, coltfaninnewyork said:

I like him but without consistent quarterback play ,I don’t care if your belichick you will not get to the promised land .No Brady pats 2-4

Several teams won w garbage QBs

[coltfaninnewyork 644]

17 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Several teams won w garbage QBs

True but not often ,dilfer comes to mine but ravens d was the reason .

[DougDew 4,284]

I said some of this in another thread

 

I think Reich is simply a co-contributor to a rebuild process that started 4 years ago and took on another level after Luck retired.  We have built the team from the middle of the field first, then out to the edges.  I think the talent of this team is definitely in the middle.  A person could argue that our top 4 players right now...assuming that TY and AC are on a permanent downside....are probably Buckner, Nelson, Leonard, and Blackmon (projecting he finishes the season playing the same way).  Throw Ryan Kelly in there somewhere too.

 

 Our talent at the edge positions of CB, WR, DE, and probably OT is not as good.  JT is a good RB, but even he does come from a college program that ran up the middle a lot.

 

I think we look how we look now because rebuild is not complete.  Either we emphasized building the middle first, or our outside players simply haven't worked out as well as our middle players.  Frank is going to call the plays that have the best chance of succeeding based upon what the matchups look like.  And in general, the rest of the NFL probably emphasizes the outside positions more than we have.

 

Either way, we are who we are because of where the talent level is on the team, on the field,  and where it is not, and there is not much that Frank can do about that.

 

Its not a blame game.  We have our successes and failures.  Root for the Colts.  Enjoy the rebuild, but keep expectations reasonable.

 

Edit: Flus is probably also protective of his outside/edge matchups, so he plays softer to keep things in front of the D,

 

[danlhart87 4,851]

7 hours ago, coltfaninnewyork said:

True but not often ,dilfer comes to mine but ravens d was the reason .

Not often but it can happen. 

Bears D are the reason they won in 85

[Boondoggle 65]

I view him as mediocre.  Might not be fair to him but that's my take.  You can win with mediocre if you have a talented roster but there's a cap on your ceiling.

 

Good chance that Ballard knows this and will make a change if things don't go the way he wants in the playoffs.

[Moosejawcolt 1,209]

22 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:

So are you blaming Ballard for bad drafting? I don't think he's the one at fault here.

Who built the defence????

[Jared Cisneros 5,767]

Just now, Moosejawcolt said:

Who built the defence????

The defense is fine. It's Eberflus and Reich that are running it poorly.

[Moosejawcolt 1,209]

10 hours ago, coltfaninnewyork said:

I like him but without consistent quarterback play ,I don’t care if your belichick you will not get to the promised land .No Brady pats 2-4

It is not always bout Brady. What was their record after they had the winning streak last year and that was with Brady? They have lost a lot of players to Covid and Pat need talent

[Moosejawcolt 1,209]

1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

The defense is fine. It's Eberflus and Reich that are running it poorly.

What?  The defence is fine? Please explain.

[Jared Cisneros 5,767]

Just now, Moosejawcolt said:

What?  The defence is fine? Please explain.

We have very good players at most positions, and two elite players in Leonard and Buckner. The talent is fine. The problem is how conservative we are on defense. We never blitz or get pressure on the QB, and these are bad QBs for the most part we've played. When we played middle of the road QBs like Mayfield and Burrow, they ripped us to shreds until we adjusted. The Colts blitz the QB around 12.4% of the time (I believe), while a team like the Ravens blitzes around 47.6% of the time. I'm pretty close on both. We aren't even close to what we should be doing. The secondary does worse as a result, we get little to no pressure on the QB, and teams move the ball down the field as a result and score. Now imagine what will happen against a brutal 2nd half schedule the next 2 months.

[Moosejawcolt 1,209]

13 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

We have very good players at most positions, and two elite players in Leonard and Buckner. The talent is fine. The problem is how conservative we are on defense. We never blitz or get pressure on the QB, and these are bad QBs for the most part we've played. When we played middle of the road QBs like Mayfield and Burrow, they ripped us to shreds until we adjusted. The Colts blitz the QB around 12.4% of the time (I believe), while a team like the Ravens blitzes around 47.6% of the time. I'm pretty close on both. We aren't even close to what we should be doing. The secondary does worse as a result, we get little to no pressure on the QB, and teams move the ball down the field as a result and score. Now imagine what will happen against a brutal 2nd half schedule the next 2 months.

Hmmmm.  Do i blame Eberflus .....yes. However, these corners r not man corners. They r built to play zone. U dont get pressure with the front four and a qb will pick the zones apart. U blitz more and it makes the corners play more man. I believe Eberflus plays with the toys that  Ballard gave him.

[Jared Cisneros 5,767]

1 minute ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Hmmmm.  Do i blame Eberflus .....yes. However, these corners r not man corners. They r built to play zone. U dont get pressure with the front four and a qb will pick the zones apart. U blitz more and it makes the corners play more man. I believe Eberflus plays with the toys that  Ballard gave him.

If that's true, then I don't know what to do. Is there any way we can get more pressure while keeping our scheme the same?

[Moosejawcolt 1,209]

19 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

If that's true, then I don't know what to do. Is there any way we can get more pressure while keeping our scheme the same?

This scheme is dated. When Ballard came to town and was intent on playing this scheme, I cringed. U need a front four with all pros to make it effective.  I am some what exaggerating. I still stand by may claim that this team will never go far with Ballard as the GM.

[danlhart87 4,851]

2 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

This scheme is dated. When Ballard came to town and was intent on playing this scheme, I cringed. U need a front four with all pros to make it effective.  I am some what exaggerating. I still stand by may claim that this team will never go far with Ballard as the GM.

Ballard has the team trending in the right direction but yes we do have several weaknesses 

[basketballsteve 345]

I absolutely hate how Reich handled the A.V. situation last year when A.V. was losing games for us and it was clear there was a problem and Reich did nothing until.....too late. I think that if Rivers plays poorly against the better teams that are coming on our schedule, Reich will stay with Rivers until it's too late. Call me an iconoclast but I don't subscribe to the idea that the only solution for the QB position is QB#1 all the time and QB#2 never sees the field unless injury or the season is "over". A Colts fan from 1967 I never lived in either of the Colts home markets and living in the Bay Area I saw all the Lamonica/Blanda games in the 1970 season (if you don't know what happened that season look it up as it's NFL history worth knowing) and it made an impression, even though the Morton/Staubach Cowboy teams advanced the "only one QB" case to the opposite. The A.V. situation and the going for it on 4th obsession made me question if Reich coaches with his head or his heart, I see his judgement as suspect although I don't hate him.