Defense???

[Smonroe 10,197]

Fluse has to address this.  I don’t care what they’re ranked, or were ranked.  They eye test means more than stats.  

 

 That first half was abysmal...again!

 

 

[danlhart87 5,156]

1 minute ago, Smonroe said:

Fluse has to address this.  I don’t care what they’re ranked, or were ranked.  They eye test means more than stats.  

 

 That first half was abysmal...again!

 

 

yes and adjustments were made

the d had bad 1st half and solid 2nd

[csmopar 10,869]

2 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Fluse has to address this.  I don’t care what they’re ranked, or were ranked.  They eye test means more than stats.  

 

 That first half was abysmal...again!

 

 

I think Lenard is a huge part of what’s going on too

[GoColts8818 11,113]

They aren’t elite.  They are good, at times.  They are poor at others.  What scared me the most was the d-line just getting owned by a subpar Bengals line.  That’s 3 of 4 last halves of football what is supposed to be the strength of the defense got owned by a lesser opponent.

[jvan1973 18,435]

Just now, csmopar said:

I think Lenard is a huge part of what’s going on too

This

[MarquisJ 502]

1st half defense struggled but give a little credit to Bengals. They did a good job at the LOS and Tee Higgins (someone I wanted), Joe Mixon, Burrow, & AJ are all ballers. Flus made adjustments and they looked much better in the 2nd half. Remember against cover 2 defense when you play very accurate quarterbacks you can get exposed when you get little to no pressure (which is what we saw in the first half).

[Malakai432 5,245]

3 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I think Lenard is a huge part of what’s going on too

Do you know how long Leonard was ruled out for?  I guess it's not a bad time to have a bye lol.  

 

I'm also curious to know about Turay, Pittman and Campbell.  

[Bluefire4 2,219]

Would love to get Kemoko back after the bye. We need to get more consistent pressure on the quarterback.

[Smonroe 10,197]

Personally, I think there a lot of talent that’s poorly schemed and coached.

 

I'm not saying they should fire Fluse, it’s not like there’s a young Monterey Kiffen waiting in the wings.  But they have to start playing D when the game starts like they do when they’re behind.

[GoColts8818 11,113]

4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

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Maybe but I don’t think Leonard is going to instantly fix all the struggles especially on the line and secondary.  Honestly, at least last week, the linebackers were pretty good,  still you don’t lose a player like Leonard and not feel it.  I’ll concede that.

[PrincetonTiger 12,386]

1 minute ago, Malakai432 said:

Do you know how long Leonard was ruled out for?  I guess it's not a bad time to have a bye lol.  

 

I'm also curious to know about Turay, Pittman and Campbell.  

I would say only a few weeks since was not put on IR

[Bluefire4 2,219]

Just now, Malakai432 said:

Do you know how long Leonard was ruled out for?  I guess it's not a bad time to have a bye lol.  

 

I'm also curious to know about Turay, Pittman and Campbell.  

I think Parris Campbell's injury is more serious and he won't be back until late in the season.

 

I would assume Darius Leonard would be back after bye. He seemed to be close. Turay is able to come off of PUP now and Pittman was expected to be back after the bye.

[GoColts8818 11,113]

1 minute ago, Malakai432 said:

Do you know how long Leonard was ruled out for?  I guess it's not a bad time to have a bye lol.  

 

I'm also curious to know about Turay, Pittman and Campbell.  

Colts aren’t saying,  he was doubtful today so there was at least a chance at sometime this week they thought he might be able play.  I am hoping that means he’s back after the bye.  Last I heard Turay and Pittman were sounding like they might be back the bye. I get the impression IF Campbell is back it will be late in the season.

[King Colt 1,929]

If the offense would move the ball for four quarters maybe the defense would appreciate it.

[Pelt 687]

4 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

I'm not saying they should fire Fluse, it’s not like there’s a young Monterey Kiffen waiting in the wings.

"Monterey" Kiffin? 

 

Is that Monte's stripper sister/sometimes defensive coordinator? 

 

[CR91 11,081]

Atleast we made adjustments. They played better in the second. Leonard not playing is a huge difference in the defense. I don't think his importance is appreciated enough.

[coltfaninnewyork 679]

We must get off the field on Third and long, I aged 20 years today 

[C0lts088 137]

Correction- *the first quarter  

 

I wouldn’t be worried, doesn’t help when your offense turns the ball over the first minute of the game. And then takes it till mid in the second to get its groove going. 
 

Once again our D shut down the opponent in the second half; something great Defenses do

[Chloe6124 8,465]

We might have Turay back for the Lions game. That should help.

[Chloe6124 8,465]

Xavier does look like a upgrade to Desir so that’s good also. Rock has to stop taking dumb penalties. That gave them 3 pts.

[compuls1v3 430]

1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

They aren’t elite.  They are good, at times.  They are poor at others.  What scared me the most was the d-line just getting owned by a subpar Bengals line.  That’s 3 of 4 last halves of football what is supposed to be the strength of the defense got owned by a lesser opponent.

The scary thing is that this is how they looked versus the jags.  They were getting stood up and pushed around most of the game.

[danlhart87 5,156]

11 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We might have Turay back for the Lions game. That should help.

hip hip turay

hip hip turay

 

[compuls1v3 430]

12 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Xavier does look like a upgrade to Desir so that’s good also. Rock has to stop taking dumb penalties. That gave them 3 pts.

That was 1x.  I don't think he has a habit of body slamming people.

[csmopar 10,869]

1 hour ago, Malakai432 said:

Do you know how long Leonard was ruled out for?  I guess it's not a bad time to have a bye lol.  

 

I'm also curious to know about Turay, Pittman and Campbell.  

I don’t but I’d guess he’ll be back after the bye. 

[Chloe6124 8,465]

Eberflus needs to get these guys ready to play from the start. 

[John Waylon 3,766]

We’re still very good against the run. I have no issues with our run defense. 
 

Pass coverage is a literal crapshoot. We may pick off 3 passes and get 7 sacks, we may be giving huge games to guys no one has ever heard of before the game. There’s no rhyme or reason to what we get and when. 

[GoColts8818 11,113]

42 minutes ago, compuls1v3 said:

The scary thing is that this is how they looked versus the jags.  They were getting stood up and pushed around most of the game.

Which is why I am not buying Leonard coming back is going to fix everything.

[GoColts8818 11,113]

4 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

We’re still very good against the run. I have no issues with our run defense. 
 

Pass coverage is a literal crapshoot. We may pick off 3 passes and get 7 sacks, we may be giving huge games to guys no one has ever heard of before the game. There’s no rhyme or reason to what we get and when. 

Did you see the Bengals touchdowns at the goal-line today?  The QB sneak for a yard that turned into a three to four yard TD in particular was embarrassing.  

[crazycolt1 14,265]

The name of this thread should be the whine and cry room.

[John Waylon 3,766]

4 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Did you see the Bengals touchdowns at the goal-line today?  The QB sneak for a yard that turned into a three to four yard TD in particular was embarrassing.  

You can’t win them all all the time. But after sitting through years of Dungy, Caldwell, and Pagano run defenses that were butter tough at best I’m happy to say we’re doing ok with run defense. 

[GoColts8818 11,113]

1 minute ago, John Waylon said:

You can’t win them all all the time. But after sitting through years of Dungy, Caldwell, and Pagano run defenses that were butter tough at best I’m happy to say we’re doing ok with run defense. 

Well the bengals had almost 100 yards rushing today and three TDs running the ball.  I am not sure today is the day to puff the chest out about the run defense.  They were okay at best vs the run today.

[csmopar 10,869]

I will give some props to Willis as well. Announcers said today he hasn’t missed a tackle all season. Pretty impressive stat 

[bestQBever 1,310]

The pass rush is the problem and the solution. These past two weeks, our pass rush has been equaled to what it looked like last year against the saints. If that's not fixed by the Ravens game, Lamar might break some NFL records.

[John Waylon 3,766]

16 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Well the bengals had almost 100 yards rushing today and three TDs running the ball.  I am not sure today is the day to puff the chest out about the run defense.  They were okay at best vs the run today.

Again, you can’t dominate every single day. Some days will be better, some will be worse. The average is still way better than we’ve endured. 

[crazycolt1 14,265]

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I will give some props to Willis as well. Announcers said today he hasn’t missed a tackle all season. Pretty impressive stat 

I give the whole team props. This is one of those games that should have been a loss but they stayed tough and pulled it out. 

Yes they gave up 21 points in the first quarter plus a few seconds, but only 6 after that. 

Rivers threw a pick but he did put it in the air 44 times for 371 yds and 3 tds.  Complain all you want, that is not bad enough to make it an issue.

There was no panic and they made the plays to win the game. 

[w87r 2,781]

18 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Well the bengals had almost 100 yards rushing today and three TDs running the ball.  I am not sure today is the day to puff the chest out about the run defense.  They were okay at best vs the run today.

But they only averaged 3.1yds a carry and that is with a 25yd reverse.

 

Take that away and they averaged 2.4ypc

 

 

[GoColts8818 11,113]

Just now, w87r said:

But they only averaged 3.1yds a carry and that is with a 25yd reverse.

 

Take that away and they averaged 2.4ypc

 

 

And if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas

[w87r 2,781]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

And if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas

Don't even need the if.

 

They averaged 3.1ypc. That isn't good.

[GoColts8818 11,113]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

Don't even need the if.

 

They averaged 3.1ypc. That isn't good.

Neither is giving up 3 TDs rushing regardless of ypc.

[GoColts8818 11,113]

10 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Again, you can’t dominate every single day. Some days will be better, some will be worse. The average is still way better than we’ve endured. 

This is the third time in six games the defense hasn’t been dominate.  That’s not a dominate defense.

 

they have been dominate against the Jets who everyone is dominate against, Bears who have a sub par offense with a new QB making his first start, and the Vikings who is the one that has been the most impressive.