Way Too Early - What would you do with 2021 first pick?

[John Hammonds 1,323]

We're only 5 games into the season, and this question is best asked somewhere around Feb/March next year.

However!

Assuming we finish 10-6 or 9-7, we'll probably end up with a pick in the 19 to 23 range.

What would you do with our 2021 1st round pick?

• Quincy Roche, DE, Miami
• Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama
• Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn St
• Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
• Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio St
• Trade pick for Sam Darnold, QB, NY Jets

[danlhart87 7,373]

Trade up for Trey Lance.

Lawrence will be way out of reach.

[BProland85 1,386]

I'm guessing we'll end up with an 8-8 or 9-7 record at best. Rivers isn't protecting the ball like he should and Reich hasn't opened up the playbook yet. 

 

With that said, I would like Ballard to try and land Trey Lance somehow at QB. This team needs an exciting QB with a live arm. 

 

If we don't target a QB early, we need help at LT and DE in the early rounds. 

[Four2itus 4,894]

WR, WR, WR, WR...........

 

I talked about it last year, and my feelings are only stronger now..

In the Colts forum

 

 

[crazycolt1 7,359]

Kind of depends on how well the coaches think Eason has progressed. 

Lot of things can happen between now and draft day.

[NewColtsFan 8,282]

4 hours ago, John Hammonds said:

We're only 5 games into the season, and this question is best asked somewhere around Feb/March next year.

However!

Assuming we finish 10-6 or 9-7, we'll probably end up with a pick in the 19 to 23 range.

What would you do with our 2021 1st round pick?

• Quincy Roche, DE, Miami
• Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama
• Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn St
• Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
• Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio St
• Trade pick for Sam Darnold, QB, NY Jets

First...   ESPN had an article in the last few days saying GM’s around the NFL do NOT believe the Jets will get a first round pick if they decide to trade Darnold.

 

So the question becomes what pick  would you give up if you still like the kid?   I’m not sure I see the Colts liking Darnold more than Eason.

 

As to the other options, I see Ballard taking a lineman 4 years out of 5 on average.   So, either DE or OT would be the choice in 2021.   
 

[Stoney 71]

2 hours ago, Four2itus said:

WR, WR, WR, WR...........

 

I talked about it last year, and my feelings are only stronger now..

In the Colts forum

 

 

Be nice to have that Metcalf guy that this whole forum was against drafting.

[Stoney 71]

Make whatever trade necessary to get Trey Lance. We're a QB away from being a great team. The QBs in this draft are too good to pass up just for the hope of Eason developing down the road.

[danlhart87 7,373]

Change your pic to Lance 

[chad72 7,127]

Knowing Ballard, he will trade down from the 1st to gain a 2nd round pick and we get an edge rusher and WR in the 2nd round.  Then he will say, look...a few hundred times...

 

Should have just traded with the Eagles at No.21 and gotten Jordan Love.

[MPStack 3,256]

Do not draft a safety with a top 15 pick

[chad72 7,127]

Let us say we barely make the playoffs as a wild card at No.7 in the AFC and lose in the wild card round and pick at No.26

 

My draft on Day 1 and 2 would go like this:

 

1. Jayson Oweh, EDGE, Penn State - Freakish athletic at 257 lbs, heard he could run a 40 in the high 4.3s, played 38% of snaps, had a 81.8 pass-rushing grade on just 207 pass-rushing snaps. He will project real well on our defense with his quick twitch and pass rush.

2. Tre Walker, WR, San Jose State - 5'11", 195 lbs - He is very versatile inside and outside, good route runner and electric. You guys should read this about Tre Walker. Another guy I like is Tylan Wallace of Oklahoma State here.

3. Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota State - 6'6", 301 lbs - good blindside protecting prospect

 

 

[DougDew 2,564]

Leatherwood, as long as he's worth the pick. 

 

Roche would be second choice, and would have to rate much much higher than Leatherwood to be selected over him.  Although I would always like to have a pass rusher that is dominate, EDGE rushing can still be accomplished by a rotation of rushers. 

 

No team rotates LTs.  

[ColtJax 346]

AC's final year, OT in the 1st.

[Zoltan 541]

Pass rush, QB, or LT.

[bertjones7 110]

On 10/15/2020 at 5:34 PM, DougDew said:

Leatherwood, as long as he's worth the pick. 

 

Roche would be second choice, and would have to rate much much higher than Leatherwood to be selected over him.  Although I would always like to have a pass rusher that is dominate, EDGE rushing can still be accomplished by a rotation of rushers. 

 

No team rotates LTs.  

Since Rousseau opted out, the best DE at Miami has been UCLA transfer and #1 hs recruit Jaelan Phillips. He had some injury issues at UCLA but he is playing really well and starting to reach his potential. 

[bertjones7 110]

Jaelen Phillips keeps playing better and better.  Tremendous athlete that has a terrific motor.  As a canes fan I hope he returns for another season, but seems to leaning towards NFL.  His medicals (concussions, injuries) will have an impact on his draft position.

[CR91 6,361]

Have to go T. The depth needs to be addressed and we need to start looking for AC's replacement

[NewColtsFan 8,282]

Either DE or OT.    But I think it will be one or the other. 

[Colt Overseas 554]

I'll go with a wildcard and say Desmond Ridder QB, Cincinnati. I'm a big fan.

 

 

[BProland85 1,386]

I would either try and land a top OT prospect like Christian Darrisaw, or get one of the top 5 QBs in this class. The only way I don't think about QB in this draft is if I am positive Eason can be that guy. 

[Four2itus 4,894]

On 10/13/2020 at 5:54 PM, Four2itus said:

WR, WR, WR, WR...........

 

I talked about it last year, and my feelings are only stronger now..

In the Colts forum

 

 

I've changed my mind. I see OT or DE with our first pick. 

[Hoose 1,084]

8 hours ago, Four2itus said:

I've changed my mind. I see OT or DE with our first pick. 

Yeah. I agree. I am hoping that WR comes as an experienced FA. 

[2006Coltsbestever 21,864]

I would take a LT in the draft 1st, WR 2nd round. That is thinking Rivers will play 1 more year.

[NewColtsFan 8,282]

5 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would take a LT in the draft 1st, WR 2nd round. That is thinking Rivers will play 1 more year.

The LT likely won’t play much his rookie year. So Rivers won’t get the benefit of the pick.

 

For me?
— DE for needed pass rush.

— That LT can get picked in the 2nd since he’s not going to play all that much.

— A corner in the 3rd.
— A WR in the 4th.  

— And a TE in the 5th. 

[2006Coltsbestever 21,864]

Just now, NewColtsFan said:

The LT likely won’t play much his rookie year. So Rivers won’t get the benefit of the pick.

 

For me?
— DE for needed pass rush.

— That LT can get picked in the 2nd since he’s not going to play all that much.

— A corner in the 3rd.
— A WR in the 4th.  

— And a TE in the 5th. 

I would love it if we somehow got lucky and got a shut down corner. I was thinking the LT would learn for a year under Costanzo and then our new QB would possibly have a good one.

[NewColtsFan 8,282]

28 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would love it if we somehow got lucky and got a shut down corner. I was thinking the LT would learn for a year under Costanzo and then our new QB would possibly have a good one.

Yes, I think that’s the scenario.  Just not sure Ballard wants to spend a #1 and then have him sit most of the season?  
 

Perhaps we can get away with using the 2nd round pick to get groomed?   I think Ballard would like to get some serious bang out of his 1st round pick buck. 
 

Either way, we have important needs on both lines.   I see Ballard trying to address them both. 

[stitches 8,000]

It's really hard to tell that far out from the draft when we don't know who will declare, who will stay in school, where we will be drafting, etc. but my general preferences are: 

- QB of the future. If possible trade up for the best one you can get(Lawrence, Fields, Lance, Wilson?). 

- Trade down or out for future assets which you can use for acquiring QB of the future ... in the future. 

- Best value available. That's my alternative to BPA. It incorporates positional value into the equation. This would most likely mean - LT, complete/passrushing DE or CB... maybe even WR. 

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever 21,864]

3 hours ago, stitches said:

It's really hard to tell that far out from the draft when we don't know who will declare, who will stay in school, where we will be drafting, etc. but my general preferences are: 

- QB of the future. If possible trade up for the best one you can get(Lawrence, Fields, Lance, Wilson?). 

- Trade down or out for future assets which you can use for acquiring QB of the future ... in the future. 

- Best value available. That's my alternative to BPA. It incorporates positional value into the equation. This would most likely mean - LT, complete/passrushing DE or CB... maybe even WR. 

 

 

Ballard will come up with something and who knows maybe Eason could be the real deal but I am not sold on that.

[Defjamz26 2,033]

After what we’ve seen transpire, I’d say draft a LT. It’s been either LT or Edge for me in awhile. It just comes down to if you think you can get an elite LT in the 2nd. If you can then you go Edge.

[richard pallo 2,569]

If Rivers comes back to try and win a SB he could use immediate help with the pick.  I would pull another Buckner type trade for a playmaking WR with the 1st.   Draft a left tackle with the 2nd.  Possibly trade the 3rd for Darnold depending how you feel about Eason.  The best case scenario that could happen is our last game is for all intents and purposes  meaningless when it comes to standings and seedings.  Then we could sit Rivers to rest him and his toe and start Eason.  

[Colts1324 395]

On 12/13/2020 at 1:55 PM, richard pallo said:

If Rivers comes back to try and win a SB he could use immediate help with the pick.  I would pull another Buckner type trade for a playmaking WR with the 1st.   Draft a left tackle with the 2nd.  Possibly trade the 3rd for Darnold depending how you feel about Eason.  The best case scenario that could happen is our last game is for all intents and purposes  meaningless when it comes to standings and seedings.  Then we could sit Rivers to rest him and his toe and start Eason.  

I don't think we can do that at this point. You can only pay so many players $20+ Million a year at once. And a player worthy of our first round pick will ask for that. 
 

I think it is more likely that the Colts use the first round pick and TRADE UP for the first time in this scenario. 
 

I think we will pick between 22-28. 
 

I can see us trading up to 12-18 to get a top edge rusher, LT, QB, or corner. 
 

I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a stud TE with our pick either.

[danlhart87 7,373]

Colts draft Jones or Trask

Rivers comes back 1 year 20m

Jones/Trask is starter in 22'

[DougDew 2,564]

Jaylen Waddle would be an interesting transition from TY.  Not sure where that would leave TY/Campbell.

 

I think Roche and Leatherwood will be gone by the 20s, which is where we will probably pick.

[BProland85 1,386]

14 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

Colts draft Jones or Trask

Rivers comes back 1 year 20m

Jones/Trask is starter in 22'

 

Don't want Trask or Jones. I believe Eason can be every bit as good as either of them. 

[danlhart87 7,373]

6 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

 

Don't want Trask or Jones. I believe Eason can be every bit as good as either of them. 

Of course Eason would battle it out with either. I'm hoping if Rivers its just for 1 year.