Overrated d

[Patrick Miller 251]

Exposed.

[John Waylon 1,632]

The run defense is stout. Maybe the best. Definitely a top 10. 
 

But we have pretty significant issues in pass coverage. 

[runthepost 772]

Browns have a good offense. This was kind of expected with the injuries

[Nesjan3 615]

nah Rivers threw the game away

[GoColts8818 4,289]

If the other team has a decent QB at all and the Colts play the lose defense they like to play they are going to get carved to peaces.  

[Stephen 1,740]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

If the other team has a decent QB at all and the Colts play the lose defense they like to play they are going to get carved to peaces.  

Was all rivers

[Patrick Miller 251]

Basically our pass defense sucks and Rivers isn't good enough anymore. Hell half the time I'm holding my breath he doesn't throw a pick.

[richard pallo 2,328]

We always seem to have trouble with mobile QB's.  They escape and make plays.  

[GoColts8818 4,289]

2 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Was all rivers

No it wasn’t and I am not going to defend Rivers.  More than one thing can not play well in a game.

[Jaredfor3 117]

I disagree.  The Browns are young, dynamic, up and coming, have a top 5 offensive line in football, leading sack leader in Garrett. 
 

Prior to the game today, Clev, has scored 30 plus points in three previous games.

 

Old man Rivers costed the Colts 8 points. 9 if you include the extra point. 
 

 

[Colt Overseas 501]

The defense gave up 23 points against a good offense. Got 2 turnovers. Only conceded 3 points in the second half, and that was at the death. 

 

Look they played poorly in the first half, but as a whole, they are a good unit. Are they elite? Probably not, but we have a good defense.

 

I think we need to add an extra pass rusher to complement Buckner and Houston. 

 

We missed Turay's pass rush today. Very badly. Muhammad showed it was speed rushers that would beat those tackles. Houston and Autry are more power guys.

[Fluke_33 2,358]

I thought the d played pretty well 

[KB 313]

The defense kept us in the game. This was all Rivers. 9 point loss that Rivers gave them.

[Stephen 1,740]

Just now, Jaredfor3 said:

I disagree.  The Browns are young, dynamic, up and coming, have a top 5 offensive line in football, leading sack leader in Garrett. 
 

Prior to the game today, Clev, has scored 30 plus points in previous games,

 

Old man Rivers costed the Colts 8 points. 9 if you include the extra point. 
 

 

That is what we lost by so I blame rivers

[Jaredfor3 117]

We should get DE Kemoko Turay back in 2-3 weeks. 
 

 

[MTC 1,588]

Yes, you would like to see more pass rush out of them, but they are still a top ten defense in the league.

[Solon 94]

Our defense is not overrated. Even the best defenses in NFL history have given up multiple 30 point performances in a season. Still the best in the NFL this season. More worried about the offense than the defense.

[IinD 2,107]

It only took Cleveland like 10 years of top picks to put it together.. Lol

[bravo4460 494]

Defense played well. Offense gave them no help and 9 points.

[GoColts8818 4,289]

Just now, KB said:

The defense kept us in the game. This was all Rivers. 9 point loss that Rivers gave them.

Let’s not forget the first half the defense gave up long drives for scores on all three drives.  I’ll say the defense adjusted and played much better in the second half but still at the end of the game even with the mistakes from Rivers, which can’t be over looked but that’s not the subject of this thread, the defense gave up two back breaking runs including one on 3rd and long when you knew the run was coming.  The defense can not be given a pass.  They made some costly mistakes today as well.

[jvan1973 4,730]

13 minutes ago, Patrick Miller said:

Exposed.

I don't think you understand what that word means

[AustinnKaine 276]

12 minutes ago, Patrick Miller said:

Exposed.

what a joke of a thread this is. you have no clue what football is. 

[Douzer 512]

Defense is very solid. Pass rush is still missing that 1 young explosive edge rusher (Turay).

 

Offense is anemic! They gave up 9 points and can't score TD's..

[Grigson's Gaffes 97]

Who here still thinks Rivers is a Top 10 QB?

[Mr.Debonair 1,674]

Their play in the first half was poor. They were repeatedly beat by the same play design. They adjusted the 2nd half and kept us in the game.

 

Flus needs to get rid of the passive zone defense. It does us no good ever

[CR91 5,954]

Exposed? No. Not even close. You obviously don't understand what not having Leonard does to this defense.

[a06cc 460]

Game was on Rivers today. The Defense won us 3 games. We needed him to play mistake free today and he didn’t. 

[braveheartcolt 1,393]

This is a very good D. With Turay and Leonard back, top class.

 

[aaron11 1,638]

i dont know about exposed but there were people that thought this was the best defense in the league

 

i think that was going a bit far, still top 10 or so 

[GoColts8818 4,289]

Just now, Mr.Debonair said:

There play in the first half was poor. They were repeatedly beat by the same play design. They adjusted the 2nd half and kept us in the game.

 

Flus needs to get rid of the passive zone defense. It does us no good ever

Yes, I fully agree with that.  When the Colts defense plays aggressive they make plays like they did In the second half.  Unfortunately the 10 points they were down at half and the Rivers mistakes were too much to over come even when the defense showed up in the second half.

[KB 313]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

Let’s not forget the first half the defense gave up long drives for scores on all three drives.  I’ll say the defense adjusted and played much better in the second half but still at the end of the game even with the mistakes from Rivers, which can’t be over looked but that’s not the subject of this thread, the defense gave up two back breaking runs including one on 3rd and long when you knew the run was coming.  The defense can not be given a pass.  They made some costly mistakes today as well.

While I agree that they gave up the big runs, especially the one at the end, they kept us in the game. They held them to 3 points in the second half. Mistakes happen but this loss isn't on them.

[Patrick Miller 251]

Just now, braveheartcolt said:

This is a very good D. With Turay and Leonard back, top class.

 

When are we supposed to get Turay back?

[CheezyColt 551]

Hahahahahahahaha

 

What a garbage topic.

[GoColts8818 4,289]

Just now, KB said:

While I agree that they gave up the big runs, especially the one at the end, they kept us in the game. They held them to 3 points in the second half. Mistakes happen but this loss isn't on them.

They were also why they Colts were down 10 at the half.  Yes Rivers was awful, especially in the second half, but to just put the game all on him is over looking the mistakes the defense made.  That’s why coaches don’t just say it was all this or that’s fault.  You have to look at everything.  It’s very rarely just one player that costs you a game.

[jbaron04 76]

Hmm this was on the offense, Philip stunk the joint up 

[KB 313]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

They were also why they Colts were down 10 at the half.  Yes Rivers was awful, especially in the second half, but to just put the game all on him is over looking the mistakes the defense made.  That’s why coaches don’t just say it was all this or that’s fault.  You have to look at everything.  It’s very rarely just one player that costs you a game.

Like I said, mistakes happen and no teamz offense or defence plays perfect all season. Even the best defences have given up bad halves. Second half adjustments were made and they played well.

 

I get that the game isn't just Rivers fault, but he was the worst part of the team. 

[CaptainColt12 237]

4 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

No it wasn’t and I am not going to defend Rivers.  More than one thing can not play well in a game.

Yes the O line was horrendous, but he was literally terrible, giving the Browns 9 points in the second half and costing us the game. He also had more throws that could have easily been picks or pick sixes. He threw to guys that were somewhat open and the throw was so bad the receiver was now covered. And his decision making was one of the worst I've ever seen(and I've watched Andrew Luck for 6 years). He's a big problem and will never be able to make a comeback win or a game winning drive.

 

I'm still confident in the team(mainly the defense), but I don't see us winning 10 games with Rivers at the helm. We'll probably squeak as a 6th or 7th  seed at 9-7 because the jags and Texans are so bad. 

[Horseshoelife19 31]

Why did Hines catch those punts inside the ten ? Possession before we constantly run the ball. Hines catches the punt inside the ten!! What do we do, first play, Rivers takes a deep drop and gives up a safety!!!! Brilliant!!! I wish Kelly was the Qb, at least he would throw the ball more than ten yards down the field and if necessary he would run!!!!

[chad72 6,531]

13 minutes ago, Colt Overseas said:

The defense gave up 23 points against a good offense. Got 2 turnovers. Only conceded 3 points in the second half, and that was at the death. 

 

Look they played poorly in the first half, but as a whole, they are a good unit. Are they elite? Probably not, but we have a good defense.

 

I think we need to add an extra pass rusher to complement Buckner and Houston. 

 

We missed Turay's pass rush today. Very badly. Muhammad showed it was speed rushers that would beat those tackles. Houston and Autry are more power guys.

 

^^^Post of the thread.

 

Against a top 2 or 3 OL in the league, I will take this performance if the other side can hold its weight, which it did not.

 

The best thing about this year is Eberflus' adjustments have been swift. He doesn't wait 2 or 3 games, not even 2 or 3 quarters before he makes adjustments quickly. The offense, however, has left my head scratching. Hines down the middle, not chipping against Myles Garrett, the offensive play calling is more offensive even with the limited arsenal we had plus the QB's decision making was horrendous.

 

If you want to be objective, the D like you said is not elite but clearly a Top 10 D good enough to keep us in games. Peyton or Luck, for all your recollection did not win all their games by double digits, but when it mattered, they seized on a Mathis or Freeney turnover, and made it count. This offense showed us today it is incapable of cashing in.

[indyagent17 776]

This was a one possession game. If we could’ve gotten a stop on third and nine We can easily be talking about a Colts victory right here