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If you break down the two teams, you can see the similarities.

 

The offense for the bears were run first team surrounded around Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson with Grossman as the game manager riding the run game and defense. Veteran and young WRs in Mohammed and Berrian. 

 

The defense had playmakers in their front seven in Urlacher, Briggs, Tommie Harris. A secondary focused on turnovers in Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher.

 

This colts team is built the same where the offense is focused on the run game with Rivers not be the main option, but does enough to keep defenses honest. The defense playing a similar cover 2 defense with the focus with keeping everything in front of them and getting turnovers.

 

 

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Just now, CR91 said:

If you break down the two teams, you can see the similarities.

 

The offense for the bears were run first team surrounded around Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson with Grossman as the game manager riding the run game and defense. Veteran and young WRs in Mohammed and Berrian. 

 

The defense had playmakers in their front seven in Urlacher, Briggs, Tommie Harris. A secondary focused on turnovers in Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher.

 

This colts team is built the same where the offense is focused on the run game with Rivers not be the main option, but does enough to keep defenses honest. The defense playing a similar cover 2 defense with the focus with keeping everything in front of them and getting turnovers.

 

 

I hope not, I’d rather be the 2006 Colts lol...

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48 minutes ago, CR91 said:

If you break down the two teams, you can see the similarities.

 

The offense for the bears were run first team surrounded around Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson with Grossman as the game manager riding the run game and defense. Veteran and young WRs in Mohammed and Berrian. 

 

The defense had playmakers in their front seven in Urlacher, Briggs, Tommie Harris. A secondary focused on turnovers in Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher.

 

This colts team is built the same where the offense is focused on the run game with Rivers not be the main option, but does enough to keep defenses honest. The defense playing a similar cover 2 defense with the focus with keeping everything in front of them and getting turnovers.

 

 

That D was light years ahead of the Colts. They had a competent offence and a great defence. The Colts have a competent offence and and untested defence.

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No.  Rivers isn't a game manager like Grossman, he's much better than that.


Our OL is better than Chicago's 2006 OL was, but we don't really know we're a 'run first' team right now.  We threw 46 times in week 1, and were certainly a pass first team in at least 1/3 of our games so far.

 

Yes, we do have an old WR (TY) and some young WRs (though our top 2 are hurt in Pittman and Campbell).  

 

Yes, we do have a solid front 7 (Okereke is the only one who has worried me much so far, and I think we'll get even better should Turay come back).  Hopefully our DBs can keep taking the ball away, but we had 0 picks in game 1... so I'm skeptical about saying we're going to be consistent in doing that (especially considering Cousins had a very bad game and the Jets stink).  

 

We're missing the best returner in NFL history (Hester), though I think Dulin/Rodgers/Hines have potential to be good - I highly doubt any of them are going to be close to Hester.  

 

In short, it's way too early in the season to compare us to any other team from the past... our D was awful in week 1, it's looked good since but against the Jets (arguably worst team in NFL) and the Vikes who definitely had an off day.  Frankly, I think we have potential to be significantly better than the 2006 Bears (regardless of if we make the SB or not), but this is a totally different NFL than it was 14 years ago.

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We only ran more than passed the last two games, and overall, we've still thrown it slightly more than running. 

We've not played any good Os thus far, and when we do, we'll need to throw more.

 

And Rivers is nothing like Grossman. 

 

So no, not the 2006 Bears. I'm not really sure what we are yet. I don't think Reich knows either based on the extreme swings in game plans from W1 to W3.

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You think Phillip Rivers, at worst a near Hall of Famer,  is anything like Grossman?    Seriously?

 

Not even a little bit.  Not in Grossman's wildest dreams.  
 

Why are you trying to make ANY comparisons on any level (Player or team) after just three games?    Why not wait until November or December...  We’ll have a better idea then.

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3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I trust Rivers more than I do Rex Grossman, so no.

In 2006 when Rex Grossman led the Bears to the Superbowl after throwing 23 regular season touchdown passes & 20 interceptions, I remember the national narrative being “Is Grossman the worst QB ever to advance to the Superbowl?”

 

The following year when Eli Manning led the Giants to the Superbowl while also throwing 23 TDs & 20 picks, the much kinder narrative was “Little brother grows up!”

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3 minutes ago, Lancer1 said:

In 2006 when Rex Grossman led the Bears to the Superbowl after throwing 23 regular season touchdown passes & 20 interceptions, I remember the national narrative being “Is Grossman the worst QB ever to advance to the Superbowl?”

 

The following year when Eli Manning led the Giants to the Superbowl while also throwing 23 TDs & 20 picks, the much kinder narrative was “Little brother grows up!”

What was weird about Eli he was clutch in his 2 SB runs not making mistakes. It was like he was a different QB. Hard to explain.

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25 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

What was weird about Eli he was clutch in his 2 SB runs not making mistakes. It was like he was a different QB. Hard to explain.

He stepped up during those 2 postseasons, but he also benefitted from a bit of luck in ’07.  David Tyree’s famed “helmet catch” was a brilliant play in which Eli escaped what should’ve been a sack, and Tyree was smart enough not to try to bring the pass down, or else Rodney Harrison, who had his arm interlocked with Tyree’s would’ve stripped it. Two plays later Eli threw a pass right into the hands of a leaping Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, who dropped it. https://youtu.be/XOKT5KI2oTg

 

Two plays after that, he hit Plaxico Burress in the end zone for the winning touchdown.

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12 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

What was weird about Eli he was clutch in his 2 SB runs not making mistakes. It was like he was a different QB. Hard to explain.

 

So was Flacco...and then Foles. That's either the best part about football...players stepping up on the biggest stage...OR it's the worst part (feels almost scripted at times). But I still love watching.

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