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There are a number of teams reporting positive Covid test results for some of their players. Will the Colts share that information. Is it against HIPAA rules to share their names and day number in quarantine? 

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Good question, I did wonder about test results and HIPAA rules. 

 

Is it to promote awareness that players like Von Miller and Zeke Elliott and coaches like Sean Payton are coming out voluntarily with their results? While it is a medical obligation to report the results to the medical staff and coaches to keep those positive cases cordoned off and quarantined, other players that did not test positive will notice.

 

A slip of the tongue is more than possible with the coaches and players, how does one manage that and how do the HIPAA rules apply to those?

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Potentially.. Elliot certainly wasn't happy at having his result shared. 

 

If we get into the season though, and players are missing time due to Covid, you'd assume it would get listed on the injury report as such.

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I think they can say things like “A” player tested positive but they can’t say who that player is.  Now if the season starts and guy is out because of COVID you are going to be able to figure out pretty quickly who it is when the injury report comes out because it will say “illness” and if that happens the same week they say someone has COVID it’s not going to be hard to put two and two together.

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Here's the deal.  HIPAA law only applies to those in the healthcare field.  Doctors, nurses, techs, pharmacists, etc.  It does NOT apply to those outside it.  However, it is logical to conclude that if a player gets a test result from a care provider, and does not tell anybody about it, yet the information still gets out, then it could be concluded that it was shared via a provider and thus violates HIPAA law.  Where it gets sticky is how it applies to employers, and since they would need this information to allow the player to play, I suppose it is possible that it could be leaked from the employers office somewhere.  But I do not believe, although immoral, it is a violation of HIPAA law in that case.  I believe the violation would occur if the employer asked the provider directly for information.  But if the provider notifies the player, the player notifies the employer (or team), and THEN it was leaked from there then I think they are in the clear.  I could be incorrect on that though.  Any legal beagles out there know?

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8 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

I think they can say things like “A” player tested positive but they can’t say who that player is.  Now if the season starts and guy is out because of COVID you are going to be able to figure out pretty quickly who it is when the injury report comes out because it will say “illness” and if that happens the same week they say someone has COVID it’s not going to be hard to put two and two together.

 

Illness can be anything though, they don't need to reveal if it is COVID but once illness takes a player away for 2-3 weeks, it becomes obvious. :) 

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4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Illness can be anything though, they don't need to reveal if it is COVID but once illness takes a player away for 2-3 weeks, it becomes obvious. :) 

Yes but if he’s the only player to go the injury report with an illness the same week they say someone has COVID it’s obvious who it is.

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16 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Yes but if he’s the only player to go the injury report with an illness the same week they say someone has COVID it’s obvious who it is.

 

Is there an obligation to report to the public that someone has Covid in the locker room? Obligation to NFLPA and NFL and their medical staff, yes. But the case can be reported to each State Dept. of Health and secrecy can be guarded much like the 1st and 2nd testing positive for performance enhancing substances. The 3rd one is made public because it results in a ban but they have tested positive before, I am thinking along those lines.

 

That is why I said when the illness extends to 2-3 weeks, that is when folks can put 2 and 2 together to connect the dots. Unless there is language that requires Covid positives in the locker room to be reported to the public.

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26 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Here's the deal.  HIPAA law only applies to those in the healthcare field.  Doctors, nurses, techs, pharmacists, etc.  It does NOT apply to those outside it.  However, it is logical to conclude that if a player gets a test result from a care provider, and does not tell anybody about it, yet the information still gets out, then it could be concluded that it was shared via a provider and thus violates HIPAA law.  Where it gets sticky is how it applies to employers, and since they would need this information to allow the player to play, I suppose it is possible that it could be leaked from the employers office somewhere.  But I do not believe, although immoral, it is a violation of HIPAA law in that case.  I believe the violation would occur if the employer asked the provider directly for information.  But if the provider notifies the player, the player notifies the employer (or team), and THEN it was leaked from there then I think they are in the clear.  I could be incorrect on that though.  Any legal beagles out there know?

I'm assuming a team would have players sign a HIPAA disclosure form with the Covid tests that would legally allow medical staff conducting the test to disclose the diagnosis to the organization. I'm not sure if that disclosure form would just limit disclosure of the diagnosis to the organization, to which they can't disclose the information any further or if there would have to be language that expressly spells out that the organization can make the information public.

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28 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Here's the deal.  HIPAA law only applies to those in the healthcare field.  Doctors, nurses, techs, pharmacists, etc.  It does NOT apply to those outside it.  However, it is logical to conclude that if a player gets a test result from a care provider, and does not tell anybody about it, yet the information still gets out, then it could be concluded that it was shared via a provider and thus violates HIPAA law.  Where it gets sticky is how it applies to employers, and since they would need this information to allow the player to play, I suppose it is possible that it could be leaked from the employers office somewhere.  But I do not believe, although immoral, it is a violation of HIPAA law in that case.  I believe the violation would occur if the employer asked the provider directly for information.  But if the provider notifies the player, the player notifies the employer (or team), and THEN it was leaked from there then I think they are in the clear.  I could be incorrect on that though.  Any legal beagles out there know?

That is not entirely true. That law actually applies to ANYONE with access to a patients personal medical information or history. For example, I’m HIPPA certified. I’m not medical but I have to be for both the military and the civilian job, due to the potential personal information I may come across. Say one of the people on my team ha to miss work long term for a medical reason, they’d have to submit documentation up thru me, that’s why it’s required. 

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5 minutes ago, csmopar said:

That is not entirely true. That law actually applies to ANYONE with access to a patients personal medical information or history. For example, I’m HIPPA certified. I’m not medical but I have to be for both the military and the civilian job, due to the potential personal information I may come across. Say one of the people on my team ha to miss work long term for a medical reason, they’d have to submit documentation up thru me, that’s why it’s required. 

I see.  Thank you for that information.  So would it just apply to the actual medical record?  Or would it apply to ANY medical information by someone who holds that record?

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4 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

I see.  Thank you for that information.  So would it just apply to the actual medical record?  Or would it apply to ANY medical information by someone who holds that record?

Any information, verbal or written. So let’s say an employee comes to you and says they need to go home with the flu. You cannot release anything about it. Legally you can only say they went home. You can only describe details to another hippa Certified person IF that person is required to know. So HR to mark time cards right etc. 

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10 hours ago, csmopar said:

That is not entirely true. That law actually applies to ANYONE with access to a patients personal medical information or history. 

That's not correct. I do work in the medical field, am HIPAA certified, and take yearly re certification training. 

 

HIPAA only applies to Covered Entities (and business associates of covered entities):

 

Covered Entities include:

*Health Plans, including health insurance companies, HMOs, company health plans, and certain government programs that pay for health care, such as Medicare and Medicaid.

*Most Health Care Providers—those that conduct certain business electronically, such as electronically billing your health insurance—including most doctors, clinics, hospitals, psychologists, chiropractors, nursing homes, pharmacies, and dentists.

*Health Care Clearinghouses—entities that process nonstandard health information they receive from another entity into a standard (i.e., standard electronic format or data content), or vice versa.

*In addition, business associates of covered entities must follow parts of the HIPAA regulations.

 

Often, contractors, subcontractors, and other outside persons and companies that are not employees of a covered entity will need to have access to your health information when providing services to the covered entity. We call these entities “business associates.” Examples of business associates include:

*Companies that help your doctors get paid for providing health care, including billing companies and companies that process your health care claims

*Companies that help administer health plans

*People like outside lawyers, accountants, and IT specialists

*Companies that store or destroy medical records

 

It does NOT apply to anyone who is not a covered entity (or business associate of a covered entity), for example:

*Life insurers

*Employers

*Workers compensation carriers

*Most schools and school districts

*Many state agencies like child protective service agencies

*Most law enforcement agencies

*Many municipal offices

 

Just having someone's health information does not make you liable for HIPAA violations. It all depends on your business relationship to a Covered Entity.

 

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On 6/19/2020 at 10:13 PM, AustexColt said:

If one players test positive, how do you address the fact that this player has been in contact with the other 53 players and coaches, and assistants?

I would ASSume that that player would be quarantined and the other players would continue to be monitored.

 

I think the more imprortant question is: what happens when a majority of a team tests positive during the season?  Does that team forfeit or are they granted an expanded roster to field a team?

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4 hours ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

 

 

I think the more imprortant question is: what happens when a majority of a team tests positive during the season? 

 

It doesn't even need to be a lot of players. 

 

If  key players test positive during the season and each one is quarantined for 2 weeks missing 2-3 games, what kind of a season will it be?

 

 I just don't see how they can go forward with the NFL this year and have meaningful, competitive, and enjoyable games. 

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48 minutes ago, egg said:

 

It doesn't even need to be a lot of players. 

 

If  key players test positive during the season and each one is quarantined for 2 weeks missing 2-3 games, what kind of a season will it be?

 

 I just don't see how they can go forward with the NFL this year and have meaningful, competitive, and enjoyable games. 

Not a good one

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1 hour ago, egg said:

 I just don't see how they can go forward with the NFL this year and have meaningful, competitive, and enjoyable games. 

 

Easy.  They will go forward because the NFL is a business which makes a LOT of money. 

 

Both the owners and the players have way too much to lose if they cancel the season.  So, they will not do that unless ordered to do so.

 

The teams have had a lot of time to make preparations for cautionary procedures.  No doubt there will be locker room changes.

 

Beyond that, the public interest in football will be very high, as a way to bring some normalcy to these tough times.   There almost certainly will be some players missing action while in quarantine, but football fans will accept that, and it's really not that much different than normal seasons where ACL and a host of other injuries often occur.  If the league were to grant a temporary, one year increase in the roster size, that might be a good idea.

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29 minutes ago, il vecchio said:

 

Easy.  They will go forward because the NFL is a business which makes a LOT of money. 

 

Both the owners and the players have way too much to lose if they cancel the season.  So, they will not do that unless ordered to do so.

 

The teams have had a lot of time to make preparations for cautionary procedures.  No doubt there will be locker room changes.

 

Beyond that, the public interest in football will be very high, as a way to bring some normalcy to these tough times.   There almost certainly will be some players missing action while in quarantine, but football fans will accept that, and it's really not that much different than normal seasons where ACL and a host of other injuries often occur.  If the league were to grant a temporary, one year increase in the roster size, that might be a good idea.

Thinking about spacing lockers is almost comical when you think that these guys are heavily breathing on each other during each and every snap.

 

I more wonder about the water bottles and towels.  A lot of saliva being passed around in football and basketball both.

 

Back to my topic of a majority of players/starters being quarantined, it won’t matter if the stands are empty, but would you pay to see a practice squad Colts team play if they sold tickets?  Season ticket holders would probably not have any recourse, but I would guess the gate will probably suffer with all the uncertainty.

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15 hours ago, egg said:

 

It doesn't even need to be a lot of players. 

 

If  key players test positive during the season and each one is quarantined for 2 weeks missing 2-3 games, what kind of a season will it be?

 

 I just don't see how they can go forward with the NFL this year and have meaningful, competitive, and enjoyable games

It's the NFL, it will be much more enjoyable than anything else that is on TV.  

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1 hour ago, Myles said:

It's the NFL, it will be much more enjoyable than anything else that is on TV.  

 

Even more enjoyable than The Brady Bunch reruns? .... please...

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49 minutes ago, egg said:

 

Even more enjoyable than The Brady Bunch reruns? .... please...

 

I can almost see Belichick having his goonies sneak some vials of C19 into the opposing teams locker room the week before they play them...

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16 hours ago, il vecchio said:

Easy.  They will go forward because the NFL is a business which makes a LOT of money. 

 

Both the owners and the players have way too much to lose if they cancel the season.  So, they will not do that unless ordered to do so.

 

The teams have had a lot of time to make preparations for cautionary procedures.  No doubt there will be locker room changes.

It’s not easy. The NBA, MLB, tennis even, all these groups also have lots on the line and have been shuttered pretty much. Heck, couldn’t even run nascar, where a guy is in the car by himself for weeks. They may have procedures they’ve planned for but in a full contact sport like football, I’m concerned they will give into the public peer pressure of cancel culture even if the risk is minimal. Personally, I think we’ve gone super overboard on the entire quarantine part of this issue but we are where we are and of all the sports, these guys will be all over each other for at least 3 hours a day during the season. If there is a risk of the major sports, this would seemingly pose the highest risk contracting the virus from another. 

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23 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

It’s not easy. The NBA, MLB, tennis even, all these groups also have lots on the line and have been shuttered pretty much. Heck, couldn’t even run nascar, where a guy is in the car by himself for weeks. They may have procedures they’ve planned for but in a full contact sport like football, I’m concerned they will give into the public peer pressure of cancel culture even if the risk is minimal. Personally, I think we’ve gone super overboard on the entire quarantine part of this issue but we are where we are and of all the sports, these guys will be all over each other for at least 3 hours a day during the season. If there is a risk of the major sports, this would seemingly pose the highest risk contracting the virus from another. 

I think the NBA is a greater risk.   Their playoffs could have an affect on the NFL season.  

 

How long till the TD celebration is using hand sanitizer?  

 

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3 hours ago, Jdubu said:

It’s not easy. The NBA, MLB, tennis even, all these groups also have lots on the line and have been shuttered pretty much. Heck, couldn’t even run nascar, where a guy is in the car by himself for weeks. They may have procedures they’ve planned for but in a full contact sport like football, I’m concerned they will give into the public peer pressure of cancel culture even if the risk is minimal. Personally, I think we’ve gone super overboard on the entire quarantine part of this issue but we are where we are and of all the sports, these guys will be all over each other for at least 3 hours a day during the season. If there is a risk of the major sports, this would seemingly pose the highest risk contracting the virus from another. 

 

The public pressure will not be to cancel the season, but to proceed with it.

 

Sure, there will be some infections with all the grunting and close contact pushing, and those infected players will have to quarantine for a few weeks.  On the plus side of that, presumably they return with some increased immunity.  Let's note that even without a season, the players and their families could be infected.

 

One thing I would hope and expect the league to do is daily testing of the players.  That's a good way to stay on top of any infected players. 

 

These are all fit young men in the prime of health (except for some extra fat on the linemen).  Their chances of serious illness are very low.  Hopefully, in a another few months, there will be more additional therapies available, like injectable antibodies.

 

I assume the Players' Association will vote on whether to play after the policies are set in place.  I can't imagine anything other than a near unanimous vote to play.  A daily Q-tip up the nose is not the most pleasant thing, but the alternative is missing a valuable season in the NotForLong.

 

For the general public, it seems the best way to deal with the virus is massive testing and contact tracing, along with widespread mask use.  Pretty much the opposite of what the US is doing, but that's what countries which have had success have done.  Hiding at home is medically effective, but it's unsustainable and economically disastrous.

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On 6/18/2020 at 12:54 PM, AustexColt said:

There are a number of teams reporting positive Covid test results for some of their players. Will the Colts share that information. Is it against HIPAA rules to share their names and day number in quarantine? 

 

Depends... who shared the info (Team physician, locker room janitor, someone else...)

 

On 6/19/2020 at 9:54 AM, AZColt11 said:

Here's the deal.  HIPAA law only applies to those in the healthcare field.  Doctors, nurses, techs, pharmacists, etc.  It does NOT apply to those outside it.  However, it is logical to conclude that if a player gets a test result from a care provider, and does not tell anybody about it, yet the information still gets out, then it could be concluded that it was shared via a provider and thus violates HIPAA law. 

 

 

Maybe, probably not. (serious consequences and healthcare folks know it).

 

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Where it gets sticky is how it applies to employers, and since they would need this information to allow the player to play, I suppose it is possible that it could be leaked from the employers office somewhere.  But I do not believe, although immoral, it is a violation of HIPAA law in that case. 

 

Again, exactly who 'leaked' it?

 

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I believe the violation would occur if the employer asked the provider directly for information.  But if the provider notifies the player, the player notifies the employer (or team), and THEN it was leaked from there then I think they are in the clear.  I could be incorrect on that though.  Any legal beagles out there know?

 

We have some here but they generally leave their 'work' at the office and just want to talk football here.  OTOH, it's not hard to assume that just because an employer is not a 'covered entity' regarding HIPAA, there are other laws and statutes to follow.

 

I would think businesses ( employers ) should proceed with care when collecting and sharing personal information related to COVID-19 (and even other health info) on employees in order to strike a balance between personal privacy and ensuring the health and safety of its workforce. There are various Federal and State (varies by state) laws that may apply.

 

On the federal side to start, there is the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Family and Medical Leave Act, the Fair Credit and Reporting Act, and other certain regulations issued under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) that may apply, directly or indirectly, to all of the medical information in an employer's possession.

 

I'm sure each team legal counsel weighs in on these items to help the team F.O., and coaches when dealing with medical info on players.

 

 

 

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On 6/22/2020 at 1:56 PM, il vecchio said:

 

The public pressure will not be to cancel the season, but to proceed with it.

 

Sure, there will be some infections with all the grunting and close contact pushing, and those infected players will have to quarantine for a few weeks.  On the plus side of that, presumably they return with some increased immunity.  Let's note that even without a season, the players and their families could be infected.

 

One thing I would hope and expect the league to do is daily testing of the players.  That's a good way to stay on top of any infected players. 

 

These are all fit young men in the prime of health (except for some extra fat on the linemen).  Their chances of serious illness are very low.  Hopefully, in a another few months, there will be more additional therapies available, like injectable antibodies.

 

I assume the Players' Association will vote on whether to play after the policies are set in place.  I can't imagine anything other than a near unanimous vote to play.  A daily Q-tip up the nose is not the most pleasant thing, but the alternative is missing a valuable season in the NotForLong.

 

For the general public, it seems the best way to deal with the virus is massive testing and contact tracing, along with widespread mask use.  Pretty much the opposite of what the US is doing, but that's what countries which have had success have done.  Hiding at home is medically effective, but it's unsustainable and economically disastrous.

It appears the first of the dominos have fallen. The HOF game is cancelled as well as the HOF induction. Sadly, I still see this as a pressure campaign to shut it all down. It may be on the wide open campaign or more lobbying behind the scenes but I feel like there is a push from many to just shut down the entire  country until we have a cure for this. We may never find one, who is to say. I can’t believe we are in this state of panic and fear. I still don’t buy the fact that the MLB will play either when it gets down to it. 

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On 6/19/2020 at 8:28 PM, Dogg63 said:

That's not correct. I do work in the medical field, am HIPAA certified, and take yearly re certification training. 

 

HIPAA only applies to Covered Entities (and business associates of covered entities):

 

Covered Entities include:

*Health Plans, including health insurance companies, HMOs, company health plans, and certain government programs that pay for health care, such as Medicare and Medicaid.

*Most Health Care Providers—those that conduct certain business electronically, such as electronically billing your health insurance—including most doctors, clinics, hospitals, psychologists, chiropractors, nursing homes, pharmacies, and dentists.

*Health Care Clearinghouses—entities that process nonstandard health information they receive from another entity into a standard (i.e., standard electronic format or data content), or vice versa.

*In addition, business associates of covered entities must follow parts of the HIPAA regulations.

 

Often, contractors, subcontractors, and other outside persons and companies that are not employees of a covered entity will need to have access to your health information when providing services to the covered entity. We call these entities “business associates.” Examples of business associates include:

*Companies that help your doctors get paid for providing health care, including billing companies and companies that process your health care claims

*Companies that help administer health plans

*People like outside lawyers, accountants, and IT specialists

*Companies that store or destroy medical records

 

It does NOT apply to anyone who is not a covered entity (or business associate of a covered entity), for example:

*Life insurers

*Employers

*Workers compensation carriers

*Most schools and school districts

*Many state agencies like child protective service agencies

*Most law enforcement agencies

*Many municipal offices

 

Just having someone's health information does not make you liable for HIPAA violations. It all depends on your business relationship to a Covered Entity.

 

Damn..... knowledge dropped.

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8 hours ago, Jdubu said:

Sadly, I still see this as a pressure campaign to shut it all down. It may be on the wide open campaign or more lobbying behind the scenes but I feel like there is a push from many to just shut down the entire  country until we have a cure for this.

Funny, I see the opposite.

Nothing is shut down here

The US has the worst infection rate on the planet by far

 

I think the open the economy and let the virus spread people have gotten what they wanted

 

 

 

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On 6/21/2020 at 3:31 PM, egg said:

 

It doesn't even need to be a lot of players. 

 

If  key players test positive during the season and each one is quarantined for 2 weeks missing 2-3 games, what kind of a season will it be?

 

 I just don't see how they can go forward with the NFL this year and have meaningful, competitive, and enjoyable games. 

Yea.  I am wondering how, even with no fans, the season can realistically happen.  Even if you keep all players, coaches, staff, and officials locked up , and kept away from family and ANYONE else in the world (which i believe would be a necessity), the virus is just so damned easily spread, that i still believe it would work its way into a roster.  Then how do you keep it from exploding?  You don’t.

  I live in Pennsylvania, where we have been more cautious than most states, and we are seeing a major surge which is only known IF you know someone “close” to a person who has the virus.

I live in an area fairly secluded from any major metropolitan city.  And even here we are seeing it explode.  Just found out today an elderly care facility In my town of under 10,000, there are a reported 40 new cases.  Just ONE facility.  5 are staff and 35 residents. Now those staffers have been home and around town.  Not good.  I also know a girl i went to high school with who was in hospital for almost a month... on a ventilator fir 17 days.  Shes lucky tobe Alive but  will never be the same.
  I just cant see things being any better  by the time the season starts.  Actually, i expect things to get worse.
  I’m no pessimist but i am educated enough to understand the facts.

I hope i’m wrong, but i predicted the state the south is in at the moment more than a month ago.

It ain't rocket science.  And no, i didn't stay inna holiday inn express, but my undergrad WAS Aeronautical Engineering (rocket science).  

 

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Personally I don't see how this season can be played. The covid virus is not under control and it will not be under control come the start of the season. It has advanced since we lifted the quarantine and there are entirely too many people who wont use common sense in protecting themselves and others.

NFL teams breath and sweat on each other on a regular bases. How effective can a NFL player play knowing the guy he is getting ready to play side by side or against may or could have covid?

Once one player tested positive then every player, coach, medical person and trainer he has come into contact with is acceptable to be positive as well. All it takes is one case to infect the whole room.  

Yes I love watching the NFL but not at the risk of the health of all involved. The NFL is just a game, not something that's worth gambling on for my enjoyment.

 

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I can’t help but feel bad for the youngsters at key points in their lives during this pandemic.  To the borderline rookie in any sport, this could be their one shot at making it, even if only for a year.  That year could be lost, which would have devastating impacts not only on them, but also their families.  Same for the college senior, who may lose their one opportunity....and they’ll have to compete with the class behind them just to get a shot the following year.
And it’s not just the athlete...this year and possibly next, the graduating classes have a very limited job market and will likely fall 2 years behind.  They’ll have to compete against yet another couple graduating classes to get their shot at a career.  
To us (me being in my mid 50’s), they’re reducing the risk of spread to high risk groups.  But in their mind, they may be sacrificing their entire lives to avoid a few sniffles.  

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Without an NFL or college football season it will be odd next year.  The draft will be weird.   Drafting players you haven't seen play in a long time.    Will the 2019 draft class still be considered rookies?  

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45 minutes ago, Myles said:

Without an NFL or college football season it will be odd next year.  The draft will be weird.   Drafting players you haven't seen play in a long time.    Will the 2019 draft class still be considered rookies?  

 

We can't have no football!  If we do, the terrorists win.

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On 6/25/2020 at 1:52 PM, Jdubu said:

It appears the first of the dominos have fallen. The HOF game is cancelled as well as the HOF induction. Sadly, I still see this as a pressure campaign to shut it all down. It may be on the wide open campaign or more lobbying behind the scenes but I feel like there is a push from many to just shut down the entire  country until we have a cure for this. We may never find one, who is to say. I can’t believe we are in this state of panic and fear. I still don’t buy the fact that the MLB will play either when it gets down to it. 

 

On 6/25/2020 at 10:23 PM, Nadine said:

Funny, I see the opposite.

Nothing is shut down here

The US has the worst infection rate on the planet by far

 

I think the open the economy and let the virus spread people have gotten what they wanted

 

IMO, there are pressures from both side. I have immediate family in the extreme risk category, so I'm very sensitive to the issue. That person is confined to home, contact with others is almost nil, and the very few in contact with them has modified their own behavior. That said, I think extremes on either side are the voices we hear most, and that's unfortunate.

 

Me personally, I'm more than fine with fan-less football. But at the end of the day, I think it should be a personal decision for players. If we just look at the players, I think most want to play. And if we're honest about the demographics of the players, less than 5% of deaths come from ages under 45, and less than 1% have no underlying conditions (those figures are from NY). So remove all the players with at risk conditions. And the average age of an NFL player is around 26 IIRC. Couldn't find more narrow breakdowns, but I have to assume that would lower the 5% and 1%.

 

Even if we say it's a full 1%, one would think that the NFL's measures (policy and testing) would reduce that 1% to a fraction of a %. Add in that because they are tested regularly, and will get top notch treatment earlier than most, it's reduced even more. We also know that those figures are based on known #s of cases, which we know now (due to the asymptomatic behavior in the young and healthy) is likely highly under reported.

 

So let's say in reality it's probably somewhere between 0.1% and 0.3% (we'll use the high). Let's say 5% (which would be about 100) of the players contract the disease during the year. If we apply the 0.3% to that, it's a third of a person dying maybe throughout the entire league.

 

In short, the risk to healthy players is very low. The risk to some unhealthy coaches is higher, but you can always keep those guys in the box. I'm for letting those that want to play, play. I'm guessing most would roll the dice on those odds to get their paycheck.

 

 

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