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Already stated I wasn't a fan of Hooker being traded, however; I think one of the big reasons behind him being shopped around could loop back to the fact we were linked to Eric Berry. Berry, if healthy, still has 2-3 good years left. Wouldn't be a bad replacement, or even an addition to, our current group at safety. 

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3 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

Already stated I wasn't a fan of Hooker being traded, however; I think one of the big reasons behind him being shopped around could loop back to the fact we were linked to Eric Berry. Berry, if healthy, still has 2-3 good years left. Wouldn't be a bad replacement, or even an addition to, our current group at safety. 

Why wouldn't you just post this in the Hooker thread already open under Colts Football?

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5 hours ago, Colts1324 said:

Already stated I wasn't a fan of Hooker being traded, however; I think one of the big reasons behind him being shopped around could loop back to the fact we were linked to Eric Berry. Berry, if healthy, still has 2-3 good years left. Wouldn't be a bad replacement, or even an addition to, our current group at safety. 

The only way I would trade Hooker is for a quality player like Berry, nothing less. Especially if this team has aspirations of post season play, behind "Philip". lol but hay, we will see.

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5 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Why wouldn't you just post this in the Hooker thread already open under Colts Football?

I guess because I felt the need to post it in the NFL free agent discussion as I intended for it to relate more to Eric Berry

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5 hours ago, Colts1324 said:

Already stated I wasn't a fan of Hooker being traded, however; I think one of the big reasons behind him being shopped around could loop back to the fact we were linked to Eric Berry. Berry, if healthy, still has 2-3 good years left. Wouldn't be a bad replacement, or even an addition to, our current group at safety. 

The discussions we’ve had about Berry in the past were mostly about him as a backup.    Now you want to think of him as a starter?

 

2-3 good years left?   Say who?   Right now the entire NFL disagrees with you.  They all could have signed him by now, and nobody has?

 

Maybe Berry wants to start?   Maybe he wants too much money and too many years?   Dunno?   All I know is that no one has signed him yet.   
 

Assuming there’s a season, I’d like to see Hooker stay and play.   Maybe he turns into the player we hope.... 

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9 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

What makes you think Berry’s got 2-3 good years left in him ? Lol. I mean in his prime he was that dude. But at this point I wouldn’t expect him to come in and play anywhere near that level again. 

Who knows if he is healthy maybe but the question is that is he even in football shape he hasn't played more than two games since the start of 2017 when he suffered that horrible injury.

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17 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

What makes you think Berry’s got 2-3 good years left in him ? Lol. I mean in his prime he was that dude. But at this point I wouldn’t expect him to come in and play anywhere near that level again. 

 

Agreed. More like 2-3 snaps left.

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29 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

What makes you think Berry’s got 2-3 good years left in him ? Lol. I mean in his prime he was that dude. But at this point I wouldn’t expect him to come in and play anywhere near that level again. 

I was basing that strictly off of his age, and if he is healthy. Safeties traditionally can play longer in the NFL than a lot of other positions. 

 

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The discussions we’ve had about Berry in the past were mostly about him as a backup.    Now you want to think of him as a starter?

 

2-3 good years left?   Say who?   Right now the entire NFL disagrees with you.  They all could have signed him by now, and nobody has?

 

Maybe Berry wants to start?   Maybe he wants too much money and too many years?   Dunno?   All I know is that no one has signed him yet.   
 

Assuming there’s a season, I’d like to see Hooker stay and play.   Maybe he turns into the player we hope.... 

I think Berry has probably had a few offers, but is a veteran, and is waiting(or was at least planning on it) until before training camp like a lot of veterans have chosen in the past. 
 

I stated I wanted Hooker to stay. I custom ordered his jersey, am a huge OSU fan, and love the dude. This was strictly based off the fact he has been rumored to be on the trade block. 
 

Berry was a top 5 safety, and Ballard was there with him in KC. If he could get him to just be an average safety, we could likely get him very cheap on a 2 year deal. 

Idk just a thought!

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Hooker's time is up next season imo as his injury history from college has followed him to the professional level.  Good thing is we had already found a replacement who decided to go back to college in FS Hamsah Nasirildeen.  The other option the Colts could target is FS Jevon Holland.  Both safeties are already being mentioned as next year's first round talent so I wouldn't think we would be interested in Berry at this point in time.  

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19 hours ago, Kyle said:

Maybe they just didn't pick up his option because they don't want to pay him that much and feel they can work out a cheaper deal

Or.....maybe they feel he's underachieved and don't want to pay him for the 5th year. Let him prove he deserves another contract with a better year, and if not, they just drafted his likely replacement. 

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Ballard not picking up Hooker's 5th year option is not the end of the world. 

If Hooker wants a long term contract and wants more money it's up to him to earn it now.

What most of you forget is Ballard seems to always have a plan and a reason he does things. Agree with them or not most of the time Ballard has it covered in the end results.  

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Plus, with what, almost half of what will be the team's in-season roster on contracts that will end at the end of this season, it's not like they won't be able to match or beat any other team's offer if they really want him back next year. They're COMPLETELY in the driver's seat by doing what they did. And as a Buckeye, I like Malik.

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Personally I don't see why a few would be upset with Ballard for putting Hooker in the position to earn his next contract. Evidently Ballard wasn't sure about extending him and giving him guaranteed money. 

Ballard drafted to maintain competition and now's it's up to Hooker to make his bed. 

I think Hooker will get every opportunity to prove himself. 

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