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How does everyone feel about drafting Anthony Gordon in the 4th round? QB from Washington State he had 5,579 yards and 48 TD’s 16 int’s. But he would learn from Reich and Rivers be coached up and may Be a diamond in the rough. I like this in the 4th round or 5th he’s 6’2 which is way he’ll be available in the later rounds. 

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1 minute ago, Superfly said:


Multiple drug failing players, women and child beaters have been forgiven quicker than CK. 

Gosh that's sad to say, but seriously you're right about that. I guess it's due to the position rather than the person. If he was anything other than a QB do you think it'd be different?

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30 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

How does everyone feel about drafting Anthony Gordon in the 4th round? QB from Washington State he had 5,579 yards and 48 TD’s 16 int’s. But he would learn from Reich and Rivers be coached up and may Be a diamond in the rough. I like this in the 4th round or 5th he’s 6’2 which is way he’ll be available in the later rounds. 

I think the 4th round is a safe bet for him.  Having Rivers to mentor him would be extremely beneficial.  With Reich's coaching, he could be a good QB, especially with that year to develop.   I like his quick release and field awareness. 

 

He's my favorite QB that we have a chance at getting.

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34 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

How does everyone feel about drafting Anthony Gordon in the 4th round? QB from Washington State he had 5,579 yards and 48 TD’s 16 int’s. But he would learn from Reich and Rivers be coached up and may Be a diamond in the rough. I like this in the 4th round or 5th he’s 6’2 which is way he’ll be available in the later rounds. 

I hope we stay away from QB's all together.  We have three, I don't see much a need for a fourth QB or another project guy.

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12 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I guess it's due to the position rather than the person. If he was anything other than a QB do you think it'd be different?


it’s 100% the position. It’s the most important position on the team, by FAR. You don’t push your chips in with a risk at the qb position. CK ain’t it. 

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35 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

How does everyone feel about drafting Anthony Gordon in the 4th round? QB from Washington State he had 5,579 yards and 48 TD’s 16 int’s. But he would learn from Reich and Rivers be coached up and may Be a diamond in the rough. I like this in the 4th round or 5th he’s 6’2 which is way he’ll be available in the later rounds. 

It’s a good question and I was just trying to find more info on him before I came back here and seen this thread. Besides him not being 6’4” he sounds like he has a weaker arm than many of the others. It’s was either Kevin’s Bowen pod cast or stampede blue podcast that talked him up. Said a weakness was the arm strength. My problem with that, that’s what was said about Manning and he turned out fine as well. Not all QB’s have the Geoff George or Brett Farve Cannon but having a Cannon didn’t help Ryan Leaf at all. If it’s simply an arm strength issue that has him knocked down, I’d think you could build that up over a season or two of NFL training. Providing he has smarts, excellent decision making, quick processing, leadership and desire, that arm issue is overcomable imho. I wish he had 3 more inches but I’ve heard that many times. 

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34 minutes ago, Superfly said:

Go high or steer clear IMO.

 

I like Gordon, but he needs to pack on about 20-25lbs. 
 

Is he better than CK?

Also a good question. I still hope that Rivers is here to help mentor and develop Kelly and that he could be part of the future, idk. But if the question is that Gordon presents no upgrade from Kelly, avoid it. If the feeling is he does offer at least the level of Kelly or better, take him and let’s move Kelly where the kid can get a chance. I still don’t see JB being here at the start of the season. 

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1 hour ago, Superfly said:

Go high or steer clear IMO.

 

I like Gordon, but he needs to pack on about 20-25lbs. 
 

Is he better than CK?

I don't know if he can add that much weight.  Dude's got a thin frame.  I see him as a top tier backup.  The kind of Qb the fans want to start after he rallies the team a couple of games, then are ready for him go to back to the bench after 4 starts.

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19 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

And your statement he is only here because Frank played with his uncle is pretty stupid. This is the NFL, not charity soup lines. On the PS his first year at minimum wage, maybe you could say that. On the 53, nope, he wouldn’t put his brother on the team if he didn’t have some worth. Get a clue as to how the NFL works before you spout off stupidity! 


 

sounds like it’s a big reason he was drafted by the Broncos with the final pick in 2017... it’s not the only reason. He was brought here and continues to be here because Andrew Luck had an injury problem that led to retirement... He’s obviously talented. He wouldn’t be here if he wasn’t. They protected him with his high practice squad cost to keep him here. I don’t doubt his talent. I never have. I just don’t think he should be in the league. Nor should the abusers and other * that violate the ethics this league and, specifically, this franchise, should stand behind. 

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AG has some really good traits which is a term you hear a lot around this time. Everyone knows his obvious ones by now but one that is not mentioned much is his resilience. One scout said he doesn’t give up and just keeps coming back. They said he would keep trying till he succeeds as an NFL QB.  I need to find that link.

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12 hours ago, lennymoore24 said:

I LOVE Anthony Gordon as a prospect. I don't think he goes past the 3rd round.  I am hoping the Colts pick him. I think he would be a great pick.

I agree... but starting to wonder

 

On the surface, the kid has the fastest delivery in this draft. He is also very accurate ..... maybe he has mashed potatoes for brains, though his Wonderlic scores were decent

 

So far it appears that not a single team has had a meeting with Anthony Gordon... Can that be possible?

He seems like a guy that CB could develop

 

Starting to think he may go UDFa

 

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Pick No.75 could be Anthony Gordon, IMO, not out of the realm of possibility. 

 

However, without unloading Jacoby, it is going to be difficult. Maybe, at the bottom of the 3rd, they may move up from the 4th by packaging Jacoby and their 4th to the end of the 3rd and pick up Anthony Gordon. 

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11 minutes ago, chad72 said:

Pick No.75 could be Anthony Gordon, IMO, not out of the realm of possibility. 

 

However, without unloading Jacoby, it is going to be difficult. Maybe, at the bottom of the 3rd, they may move up from the 4th by packaging Jacoby and their 4th to the end of the 3rd and pick up Anthony Gordon. 

I would absolutely Love that scenerio!  Get rid of Brissett and bring in Gordon at the same time?  Count me in.  Brissett seems like a great guy but I think when a guy has been replaced twice, it is time to move on for his interest and the teams.  And I am a big fan of Gordons.  He has rare arm talent and accuracy.

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4 minutes ago, lennymoore24 said:

I would absolutely Love that scenerio!  Get rid of Brissett and bring in Gordon at the same time?  Count me in.  Brissett seems like a great guy but I think when a guy has been replaced twice, it is time to move on for his interest and the teams.  And I am a big fan of Gordons.  He has rare arm talent and accuracy.

 

Giants at pick No.99 might be a good one to move up to, IMO.

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23 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

I agree... but starting to wonder

 

On the surface, the kid has the fastest delivery in this draft. He is also very accurate ..... maybe he has mashed potatoes for brains, though his Wonderlic scores were decent

 

So far it appears that not a single team has had a meeting with Anthony Gordon... Can that be possible?

He seems like a guy that CB could develop

 

Starting to think he may go UDFa

 

 

I don't think he will last that long.  In fact, I expect him to be a 3rd round pick.  He is actually very smart and a good leader.  I went up to WSU to scout him myself.  Ballard loves Senior Bowl guys and he was arguably the best QB at the Senior Bowl in the game.  I am sure they know of him.  Just not tipping their hand.

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5 hours ago, LockeDown said:

AG has some really good traits which is a term you hear a lot around this time. Everyone knows his obvious ones by now but one that is not mentioned much is his resilience. One scout said he doesn’t give up and just keeps coming back. They said he would keep trying till he succeeds as an NFL QB.  I need to find that link.

 

I read that as well.  If you think about it, he got to WSU and had to sit behind Falk and then lost a close battle to Minshew.  But he never quit.  he beat out a highly rated transfer to be the starter this year.  Leach said the battle between Gordon an Minshew was so close that if Gordon had played, they would have won 11 games.  So he is very resilient and competitive.

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Bad ball velocity.  Worse than Love, Fromm, and Hurts.

 

Pass. 

 

From Ourlads:

 

Year: 2020

Jacob Eason Washington 59 (Left) 59 (Right)

Jake Luton Oregon State 59 (Left) 56 (Right)

Steven Montez Colorado 58 (Left) 59 (Right)

Kevin Davidson Princeton 57 (Left) 56 (Right)

Justin Herbert Oregon 55 (Left) 54 (Right)

James Morgan Florida International 54 (Left) 54 (Right)

Jordan Love Utah State 54 (Left) 53 (Right)

Jalen Hurts Oklahoma 54 (Left) 51 (Right)

Jake Fromm Georgia 53 (Left) 53 (Right)

Nate Stanley Iowa 52 (Left) 54 (Right)

Anthony Gordon Washington State 52 (Left) 51 (Right)

Brian Lewerke Michigan State 51 (Left) 49 (Right)

Cole McDonald Hawaii 51 (Left) 47 (Right)

Shea Patterson Michigan 50 (Left) 51 (Right)

Kelly Bryant Missouri 47 (Left) 45 (Right)

Joe Burrow – did not throw

Tua Tagovailoa – did not throw

 

 

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6 minutes ago, lennymoore24 said:

 

I don't think he will last that long.  In fact, I expect him to be a 3rd round pick.  He is actually very smart and a good leader.  I went up to WSU to scout him myself.  Ballard loves Senior Bowl guys and he was arguably the best QB at the Senior Bowl in the game.  I am sure they know of him.  Just not tipping their hand.

I hope you are right

 

The kid is said to be an extremely hard worker, and played Thursday nights to get better.....

 

We will see.....  He has some great tape

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14 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Bad ball velocity.  Worse than Love, Fromm, and Hurts.

 

Pass.

Ehhhh..... I had to look it up....

 

He is within 4-6% of the Strongest QB for velocity 

 

Within 2-3% of Mahomes

 

He is 5% better than D Watson, Faster than Lamar Jackson.....

 

AND.... there are QBs that have thrown it 10% faster than Love, a “strong armed”  QB that are now working the docks

 

I agree that the kid  needs to build arm strength......

 

He needs to put 10-15 Lbs on

 

His release, touch , and accuracy are fantastic

 

He is not as good as a prospect as the QBs taken already ..... but the kid has some skills.... Fromm, Hurts..... will be back ups

 

What else ya got?

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9 minutes ago, pgt_rob said:

Why draft a QB in this draft now? It would be pointless and waste of a pick in my honest opinion.

Because, you have to try..... Until you get your guy of the future

 

First round QBs that CANT MISS......MISS at least 50%

 

 

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Gordon has the same problems that most QB's that come out of Air Raid style offenses have (and why most are never drafted very high or at all) despite the big passing numbers.  Their system is more designed to lock on a receiver and stay with him throughout the play until he gets open.  They are often not very good at working through progressions.  Maybe Minshew's decent season last year could open things up for Gordon but his slight frame and coming from an Air Raid system could really push him down further in the draft.  4th might be too high a pick for him.

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12 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

Ehhhh..... I had to look it up....

 

He is within 4-6% of the Strongest QB for velocity 

 

Within 2-3% of Mahomes

 

He is 5% better than D Watson, Faster than Lamar Jackson.....

 

AND.... there are QBs that have thrown it 10% faster than Love, a “strong armed”  QB that are now working the docks

 

I agree that the kid  needs to build arm strength......

 

He needs to put 10-15 Lbs on

 

His release, touch , and accuracy are fantastic

 

He is not as good as a prospect as the QBs taken already ..... but the kid has some skills.... Fromm, Hurts..... will be back ups

 

What else ya got?

After your nothing-burgers, I don't need anything.

 

Why will Hurts and Fromm be backups and not Gordon?  I thought the only knock on Fromm was arm strength, yet Gordon is better? 

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3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

After your nothing-burgers, I don't need anything.

 

Why will Hurts and Fromm be backups and not Gordon?  I thought the only knock on Fromm was arm strength, yet Gordon is better? 

The odds are that all 3 will be backups ..... I just like the release and accuracy much better from Gordon.... 

 

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1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:

I agree... but starting to wonder

 

On the surface, the kid has the fastest delivery in this draft. He is also very accurate ..... maybe he has mashed potatoes for brains, though his Wonderlic scores were decent

 

So far it appears that not a single team has had a meeting with Anthony Gordon... Can that be possible?

He seems like a guy that CB could develop

 

Starting to think he may go UDFa

 

 

I can understand that teams aren't meeting with him...he doesn't have even a mediocre NFL arm. 

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27 minutes ago, pgt_rob said:

Why draft a QB in this draft now? It would be pointless and waste of a pick in my honest opinion.

 

Gordon...unless it's a 6th-7th round pick would certainly be a wasted pick. I could be very wrong on this...but I cannot imagine him ever starting NFL games.

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8 minutes ago, DougDew said:

After your nothing-burgers, I don't need anything.

 

Why will Hurts and Fromm be backups and not Gordon?  I thought the only knock on Fromm was arm strength, yet Gordon is better? 

 

Agree...it's the other way around.

 

Fromm *might* be able to overcome his arm deficiencies in the NFL...because he is actually a pretty good QB.

 

Hurts has great leadership and the upside/mobility to build a scheme around.

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4 minutes ago, shastamasta said:

 

Agree...it's the other way around.

 

Fromm *might* be able to overcome his arm deficiencies in the NFL...because he is actually a pretty good QB.

 

Hurts has great leadership and the upside/mobility to build a scheme around.

Is Hurts really that mobile?  Whenever I see him play, he seems fast but pretty stiff.  As a comparison, I think Aaron Rogers is shiftier.

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