Chloe6124 9,828 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 This was on Get up this morning. Looking for the video. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
DougDew 2,566 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Could trade pick 75 with 34 to get into the first. Could trade later picks to get back into the 3rd, or maybe even Hooker to recoup the pick. Link to post Share on other sites
chad72 7,161 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Jordan Love lovers rejoicing somewhere...?? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Chloe6124 9,828 Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, chad72 said: Jordan Love lovers rejoicing somewhere...?? Maybe it isn’t for a QB. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post adubb84 356 Posted April 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, chad72 said: Jordan Love lovers rejoicing somewhere...?? 3 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites
WarGhost21 938 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, chad72 said: Jordan Love lovers rejoicing somewhere...?? We would likely need to spend a lot of capital trading up to around 20 to get him, which I don't see Ballard doing. Love won't make it far, he'll go in the first 24 picks, maybe much earlier. If anything, the move would be to 31 or something like that, to pick up a 5th year option, and get another position, and if it is QB it's likely to be Hurts, the clear cut QB5 in the class. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
adubb84 356 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said: This was on Get up this morning. Looking for the video. Would love to see the video on this. San Fran at 31 makes the most sense. Unless they have a really good pulse on things and a certain “someone” falls closer to the end of RD1 they can grab without giving up a ton of draft capital Link to post Share on other sites
chad72 7,161 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said: Maybe it isn’t for a QB. I really doubt it isn't, mainly because of the 5th year option and the fact that have a veteran QB at the helm that a rookie QB can sit behind. All those things add up, just like the Lamar Jackson draft trade up situation, for it to be for a QB, IF they move up. It still is a big IF. Link to post Share on other sites
chad72 7,161 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, WarGhost21 said: We would likely need to spend a lot of capital trading up to around 20 to get him, which I don't see Ballard doing. Love won't make it far, he'll go in the first 24 picks, maybe much earlier. If anything, the move would be to 31 or something like that, to pick up a 5th year option, and get another position, and if it is QB it's likely to be Hurts, the clear cut QB5 in the class. Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
boo2202 454 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Colts must have their eyes on somebody. Get a trade partner ready if a certain player is there. I wonder how far 34th and next years first would get us. Have a feeling if tua or love start falling, they’ll try to move up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WarGhost21 938 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, chad72 said: Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO. I agree, but I just don't see Ballard moving up so much to get Love like they would have to. People on this forum really wanted him at 13, and now they expect him to tumble to the second round. Too many people love Love and are ignoring where he is slotted. If we do move up for a QB, it is more than likely for the draft's QB5, not Love Link to post Share on other sites
chad72 7,161 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, boo2202 said: Colts must have their eyes on somebody. Get a trade partner ready if a certain player is there. I wonder how far 34th and next years first would get us. Have a feeling if tua or love start falling, they’ll try to move up. Vikings or Eagles would be my strong guesses. Pick No.34, Pick No.75 and possibly a future 3rd is what it would take, IMO, unless a player is involved, like Jacoby Brissett. Eagles would be in the market for a backup QB since Foles is gone and Josh McCown is gone too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DougDew 2,566 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, chad72 said: Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO. I agree for the most part. I think he might view certain OTs or WRs as special players that might need to sit behind AC (by maybe playing RT) or spell TY to take over for them permanently in a couple of years. Maybe even Jonathon Taylor or Swift, two great runners who also can catch. I don't think Mack has been extended. If a special player at OT, WR, or RB is there at 31 or higher, I think giving up a pick like 75 or 122 is a no brainer, IMO. Edit: Polian thought it worthy of a late first to take both Donald Brown and Joseph Addai. Taylor, Swift are both way better than either of those. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
aaron11 1,680 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, WarGhost21 said: I agree, but I just don't see Ballard moving up so much to get Love like they would have to. People on this forum really wanted him at 13, and now they expect him to tumble to the second round. Too many people love Love and are ignoring where he is slotted. If we do move up for a QB, it is more than likely for the draft's QB5, not Love a lot of the qb holes filled in free agency. cam is still out there, someone probably has their eyes on dalton too Link to post Share on other sites
boo2202 454 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, chad72 said: Vikings or Eagles would be my strong guesses. Pick No.34, Pick No.75 and possibly a future 3rd is what it would take, IMO, unless a player is involved, like Jacoby Brissett. Eagles would be in the market for a backup QB since Foles is gone and Josh McCown is gone too. I’m not sure jacoby would carry much value. Now hooker and 34th might sound good to eagles. Link to post Share on other sites
Jared Cisneros 3,781 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, adubb84 said: OMG, he's adorable! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
stitches 8,058 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, chad72 said: Jordan Love lovers rejoicing somewhere...?? Lets call ourselves the Jordan Lovers. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites
twfish 1,098 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, stitches said: Lets call ourselves the Jordan Lovers. I was searching specifically for your comment on this thread lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen 1,825 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, adubb84 said: Would love to see the video on this. San Fran at 31 makes the most sense. Unless they have a really good pulse on things and a certain “someone” falls closer to the end of RD1 they can grab without giving up a ton of draft capital Sanfran or seattle at 27. Maybe even the cheifs at 32 Link to post Share on other sites
stitches 8,058 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, twfish said: I was searching specifically for your comment on this thread lol Still not buying it, until it happens. But lets entertain it hypothetically... Who that might be for besides a QB? Who do we need 5th year option this desperately for? OT? If he sits a year or two, maybe we do need the extra year of contract... Link to post Share on other sites
Chloe6124 9,828 Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Eagles are rumored to want to move up. We will see. A player would have to drop for this to even happen. Still wouldn’t be shocked if Dolphins take Love. They have 3 picks. Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen 1,825 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, DougDew said: I agree for the most part. I think he might view certain OTs or WRs as special players that might need to sit behind AC (by maybe playing RT) or spell TY to take over for them permanently in a couple of years. Maybe even Jonathon Taylor or Swift, two great runners who also can catch. I don't think Mack has been extended. If a special player at OT, WR, or RB is there at 31 or higher, I think giving up a pick like 75 or 122 is a no brainer, IMO. Edit: Polian thought it worthy of a late first to take both Donald Brown and Joseph Addai. Taylor, Swift are both way better than either of those. We don't need to trade up for a running back. Akers and a few others will be there in the second 1 Link to post Share on other sites
B~Town 211 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 There is a top ot projected to fall to late 1st rd now might be our target if he falls far enough. Link to post Share on other sites
BigQungus 258 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, DougDew said: I agree for the most part. I think he might view certain OTs or WRs as special players that might need to sit behind AC (by maybe playing RT) or spell TY to take over for them permanently in a couple of years. Maybe even Jonathon Taylor or Swift, two great runners who also can catch. I don't think Mack has been extended. If a special player at OT, WR, or RB is there at 31 or higher, I think giving up a pick like 75 or 122 is a no brainer, IMO. Edit: Polian thought it worthy of a late first to take both Donald Brown and Joseph Addai. Taylor, Swift are both way better than either of those. Taylor Swift 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites
chad72 7,161 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said: Eagles are rumored to want to move up. We will see. A player would have to drop for this to even happen. Still wouldn’t be shocked if Dolphins take Love. They have 3 picks. I have a feeling the fans will revolt or the owner will revolt since they are all in love with Tua. Link to post Share on other sites
BSteph1 49 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, chad72 said: Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO. I could see it. On the other hand, the fifth year option isn’t as valuable for teams in the new cba — especially for teams trading up late to snag a QB. It’s now tied to positional value instead of draft slot and fully guaranteed when exercised. The option will now be the same as the transition tag. For QBs in 2020, that was a little over $24 million, only a couple million less than the franchise tag. The value also becomes equal to the franchise tag if a player makes the pro bowl twice in his first three years. There are still benefits — teams still get an extra year of control but the monetary difference is pretty small now. I wonder if they might actually be targeting a tackle. Receiver is deep throughout the draft. But there’s a big drop off from the Josh Jones/Ezra Cleveland/Austin Jackson tier slotted for the late first to the Lucas Niang/Prince Tega Wonogho/Matt Peart group. Moving up a few picks wouldn’t cost much. Link to post Share on other sites
MPStack 3,259 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3,2,1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
danlhart87 7,467 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 My prediction We trade up to 22 for Love. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PeterBowman 1,444 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, BigQungus said: Taylor Swift hope she doesn't see this...she'll write a song about it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
DougDew 2,566 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, Stephen said: We don't need to trade up for a running back. Akers and a few others will be there in the second Akers fumbles. Anything other than Taylor or Swift have limitations, like Mack. Those two are complete three down RBs that can run, block, or catch on any play, and are fast enough to score. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Shive 1,986 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: My prediction We trade up to 22 for Love. I've mocked that exact trade a few times. It really makes sense and I think the Vikings could use more picks to help infuse some more talent despite their lack of cap room. Link to post Share on other sites
Shafty138 1,371 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, chad72 said: Vikings or Eagles would be my strong guesses. Pick No.34, Pick No.75 and possibly a future 3rd is what it would take, IMO, unless a player is involved, like Jacoby Brissett. Eagles would be in the market for a backup QB since Foles is gone and Josh McCown is gone too. Pretty sure Philly is fine with Nate Sudfeld as their backup QB. Link to post Share on other sites
BleedBlue4Shoe86 660 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I can see it now... The 49ers are on the clock. There is a trade. The Colts now own the 31st pick and they select... Jalen Hurts- QB- Oklahoma The forum proceeds to burn down. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
danlhart87 7,467 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 This is what I don't understand: Some of you on this forum are so against trading up in the first place especially for someone like Love but as I proved in the thread (What I would do with 34 and 44) even if the Colts trade up they could still trade back at 44 and gain that draft capital back. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
danlhart87 7,467 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said: I can see it now... The 49ers are on the clock. There is a trade. The Colts now own the 31st pick and they select... Jalen Hurts- QB- Oklahoma The forum proceeds to burn down. I wouldn't be mad cause Ballard is trying to fix the QB of the future. I'd be upset if we trade up for anything besides QB. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
John Hammonds 1,340 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Here's my out of left field prediction: Colts are talking to the Patriots, who don't have a 2nd round pick, and have needs at both QB and WR. Either they're willing to trade Brissett and #34 to move up to #23 to take Jordan Love. Or, Colts have a different target in mind at #23, trade both #34 and #44 to get there, and the Patriots draft QB Jacob Eason and a WR like Pittman. Link to post Share on other sites
richard pallo 2,575 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 This is all about getting in position to get Swift if he falls. Schraeger just did a Mock with the Pats taking him in the 1st RD and they have Michel. He's a premium talent. Swift or Taylor behind our line watch out. No highly rated QB is going to fall far. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NewColtsFan 8,392 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, John Hammonds said: Here's my out of left field prediction: Colts are talking to the Patriots, who don't have a 2nd round pick, and have needs at both QB and WR. Either they're willing to trade Brissett and #34 to move up to #23 to take Jordan Love. Or, Colts have a different target in mind at #23, trade both #34 and #44 to get there, and the Patriots draft QB Jacob Eason and a WR like Pittman. I don’t see the Colts trading 34 or 44 regardless of position. It would be completely un-Ballard-like for him to do that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
danlhart87 7,467 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I prefer Taylor Link to post Share on other sites
NewColtsFan 8,392 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: This is what I don't understand: Some of you on this forum are so against trading up in the first place especially for someone like Love but as I proved in the thread (What I would do with 34 and 44) even if the Colts trade up they could still trade back at 44 and gain that draft capital back. Please don’t write that you “proved” anything. No one here has. Certainly not moving forward. You can prove things looking back, because then you have facts to deal with. But moving forward, there are no facts. You can guess and suppose and speculate. But with the upcoming draft, there’s no prof yet. Thank you. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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