Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

Adam Schefter Colts making calls to move up from 34


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 140
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

I want to see the Colts move up and take an OT. First, because we need to find AC's replacement soon, or to give Smith the slide inside.....   ...but also/kinda, to watch some of you melt do

Lets call ourselves the Jordan Lovers.     

Posted Images

2 minutes ago, chad72 said:

Jordan Love lovers rejoicing somewhere...??:peek:

We would likely need to spend a lot of capital trading up to around 20 to get him, which I don't see Ballard doing. Love won't make it far, he'll go in the first 24 picks, maybe much earlier. If anything, the move would be to 31 or something like that, to pick up a 5th year option, and get another position, and if it is QB it's likely to be Hurts, the clear cut QB5 in the class.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

This was on Get up this morning. Looking for the video.

 

Would love to see the video on this. San Fran at 31 makes the most sense. Unless they have a really good pulse on things and a certain “someone” falls closer to the end of RD1 they can grab without giving up a ton of draft capital 

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Maybe it isn’t for a QB.

 

I really doubt it isn't, mainly because of the 5th year option and the fact that have a veteran QB at the helm that a rookie QB can sit behind. All those things add up, just like the Lamar Jackson draft trade up situation, for it to be for a QB, IF they move up. It still is a big IF.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, WarGhost21 said:

We would likely need to spend a lot of capital trading up to around 20 to get him, which I don't see Ballard doing. Love won't make it far, he'll go in the first 24 picks, maybe much earlier. If anything, the move would be to 31 or something like that, to pick up a 5th year option, and get another position, and if it is QB it's likely to be Hurts, the clear cut QB5 in the class.

 

Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO.

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

Colts must have their eyes on somebody. Get a trade partner ready if a certain player is there. I wonder how far 34th and next years first would get us. Have a feeling if tua or love start falling, they’ll try to move up. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, chad72 said:

Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO.

I agree, but I just don't see Ballard moving up so much to get Love like they would have to. People on this forum really wanted him at 13, and now they expect him to tumble to the second round. Too many people love Love and are ignoring where he is slotted. If we do move up for a QB, it is more than likely for the draft's QB5, not Love

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, boo2202 said:

Colts must have their eyes on somebody. Get a trade partner ready if a certain player is there. I wonder how far 34th and next years first would get us. Have a feeling if tua or love start falling, they’ll try to move up. 

 

Vikings or Eagles would be my strong guesses. Pick No.34, Pick No.75 and possibly a future 3rd is what it would take, IMO, unless a player is involved, like Jacoby Brissett. Eagles would be in the market for a backup QB since Foles is gone and Josh McCown is gone too.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO.

I agree for the most part. 

 

I think he might view certain OTs or WRs as special players that might need to sit behind AC (by maybe playing RT) or spell TY to take over for them permanently in a couple of years.  Maybe even Jonathon Taylor or Swift, two great runners who also can catch.  I don't think Mack has been extended.

 

If a special player at OT, WR, or RB is there at 31 or higher, I think giving up a pick like 75 or 122 is a no brainer, IMO.

 

Edit:  Polian thought it worthy of a late first to take both Donald Brown and Joseph Addai.  Taylor, Swift are both way better than either of those.

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, WarGhost21 said:

I agree, but I just don't see Ballard moving up so much to get Love like they would have to. People on this forum really wanted him at 13, and now they expect him to tumble to the second round. Too many people love Love and are ignoring where he is slotted. If we do move up for a QB, it is more than likely for the draft's QB5, not Love

a lot of the qb holes filled in free agency.  cam is still out there, someone probably has their eyes on dalton too

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Vikings or Eagles would be my strong guesses. Pick No.34, Pick No.75 and possibly a future 3rd is what it would take, IMO, unless a player is involved, like Jacoby Brissett. Eagles would be in the market for a backup QB since Foles is gone and Josh McCown is gone too.

I’m not sure jacoby would carry much value. Now hooker and 34th might sound good to eagles. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, adubb84 said:

Would love to see the video on this. San Fran at 31 makes the most sense. Unless they have a really good pulse on things and a certain “someone” falls closer to the end of RD1 they can grab without giving up a ton of draft capital 

Sanfran or seattle at 27. Maybe even the cheifs  at 32

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, twfish said:

I was searching specifically for your comment on this thread lol

:P Still not buying it, until it happens. But lets entertain it hypothetically... Who that might be for besides a QB? Who do we need 5th year option this desperately for? OT? If he sits a year or two, maybe we do need the extra year of contract... 

Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, DougDew said:

I agree for the most part. 

 

I think he might view certain OTs or WRs as special players that might need to sit behind AC (by maybe playing RT) or spell TY to take over for them permanently in a couple of years.  Maybe even Jonathon Taylor or Swift, two great runners who also can catch.  I don't think Mack has been extended.

 

If a special player at OT, WR, or RB is there at 31 or higher, I think giving up a pick like 75 or 122 is a no brainer, IMO.

 

Edit:  Polian thought it worthy of a late first to take both Donald Brown and Joseph Addai.  Taylor, Swift are both way better than either of those.

We don't need to  trade up for a running back. Akers and a few others will be there in the second

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
28 minutes ago, DougDew said:

I agree for the most part. 

 

I think he might view certain OTs or WRs as special players that might need to sit behind AC (by maybe playing RT) or spell TY to take over for them permanently in a couple of years.  Maybe even Jonathon Taylor or Swift, two great runners who also can catch.  I don't think Mack has been extended.

 

If a special player at OT, WR, or RB is there at 31 or higher, I think giving up a pick like 75 or 122 is a no brainer, IMO.

 

Edit:  Polian thought it worthy of a late first to take both Donald Brown and Joseph Addai.  Taylor, Swift are both way better than either of those.

 

Taylor Swift 

  • Like 3
  • Haha 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Eagles are rumored to want to move up. We will see.  A player would have to drop for this to even happen. Still wouldn’t be shocked if Dolphins take Love. They have 3 picks.

 

I have a feeling the fans will revolt or the owner will revolt since they are all in love with Tua.

Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Like I said above, the only reason to move up is for the 5th year option, which makes it more relevant for a rookie QB that will be sitting behind an established veteran QB we have brought along. Other positions, we can stand pat and go BPA, IMO.


I could see it. On the other hand, the fifth year option isn’t as valuable for teams in the new cba — especially for teams trading up late to snag a QB. 
 

It’s now tied to positional value instead of draft slot and fully guaranteed when exercised. The option will now be the same as the transition tag. For QBs in 2020, that was a little over $24 million, only a couple million less than the franchise tag. The value also becomes equal to the franchise tag if a player makes the pro bowl twice in his first three years. 
 

There are still benefits — teams still get an extra year of control but the monetary difference is pretty small now.

 

I wonder if they might actually be targeting a tackle. Receiver is deep throughout the draft. But there’s a big drop off from the Josh Jones/Ezra Cleveland/Austin Jackson tier slotted for the late first to the Lucas Niang/Prince Tega Wonogho/Matt Peart group. Moving up a few picks wouldn’t cost much.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
29 minutes ago, Stephen said:

We don't need to  trade up for a running back. Akers and a few others will be there in the second

Akers fumbles.  Anything other than Taylor or Swift have limitations, like Mack.  Those two are complete three down RBs that can run, block, or catch on any play, and are fast enough to score.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

My prediction 

We trade up to 22 for Love.

I've mocked that exact trade a few times. It really makes sense and I think the Vikings could use more picks to help infuse some more talent despite their lack of cap room.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, chad72 said:

 

Vikings or Eagles would be my strong guesses. Pick No.34, Pick No.75 and possibly a future 3rd is what it would take, IMO, unless a player is involved, like Jacoby Brissett. Eagles would be in the market for a backup QB since Foles is gone and Josh McCown is gone too.

Pretty sure Philly is fine with Nate Sudfeld as their backup QB.

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is what I don't understand:

 

Some of you on this forum are so against trading up in the first place especially for someone like Love but as I proved in the thread (What I would do with 34 and 44) even if the Colts trade up they could still trade back at 44 and gain that draft capital back. 

 

 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I can see it now...

 

The 49ers are on the clock. There is a trade. The Colts now own the 31st pick and they select...

 

Jalen Hurts- QB- Oklahoma

 

The forum proceeds to burn down. comedy central GIF by Another Period

I wouldn't be mad cause Ballard is trying to fix the QB of the future. 

 

I'd be upset if we trade up for anything besides QB. 

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's my out of left field prediction:

Colts are talking to the Patriots, who don't have a 2nd round pick, and have needs at both QB and WR.  Either they're willing to trade Brissett and #34 to move up to #23 to take Jordan Love.  Or, Colts have a different target in mind at #23, trade both #34 and #44 to get there, and the Patriots draft QB Jacob Eason and a WR like Pittman.

Link to post
Share on other sites

This is all about getting in position to get Swift if he falls.  Schraeger just did a Mock with the Pats taking him in the 1st RD and they have Michel.  He's a premium talent.  Swift or Taylor behind our line watch out. No highly rated QB is going to fall far.   

  • Sad 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, John Hammonds said:

Here's my out of left field prediction:

Colts are talking to the Patriots, who don't have a 2nd round pick, and have needs at both QB and WR.  Either they're willing to trade Brissett and #34 to move up to #23 to take Jordan Love.  Or, Colts have a different target in mind at #23, trade both #34 and #44 to get there, and the Patriots draft QB Jacob Eason and a WR like Pittman.


I don’t see the Colts trading 34 or 44 regardless of position.   It would be completely un-Ballard-like for him to do that. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

This is what I don't understand:

 

Some of you on this forum are so against trading up in the first place especially for someone like Love but as I proved in the thread (What I would do with 34 and 44) even if the Colts trade up they could still trade back at 44 and gain that draft capital back. 

 

 

Please don’t write that you “proved” anything.   No one here has. 
 

Certainly not moving forward.    You can prove things looking back, because then you have facts to deal with.   But moving forward, there are no facts.  You can guess and suppose and speculate.  But with the upcoming draft, there’s no prof yet.  
 

Thank you. 

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.


  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I would've been shocked if they weren't working out together. They did a bunch of workouts at the same place pre-draft and, based on his videos, have become pretty good friends.
    • I hope we bring Mack back.  By all accounts he was great in the RB room helping Taylor and Hines and Wilkins.   But if the base contract contract is modest, I would hope and expect that we include incentives.   If Taylor gets hurt and Mack becomes RB1 then he should be rewarded.   So fair incentives should be included and I’m confident Ballard would do right by Mack. 
    • Romeo Okwara. Gotta upgrade the pass rush or its going to be open season on the Colts' pass D.
    • People need to get over the DK Metcalf thing. All the teams passed up on him twice for a reason. The Hawks even passed up on him twice before taking him with their 2nd pick in the 2nd round(last pick in the 2nd round). He had injury concerns and personality issues. Not to mention his route running skills are horrific.    He would not work on prob 75% of the teams. Just because he worked out for the Hawks does not mean he would have worked out for the Colts or other teams, Hes the type of player that needs a QB like Russell who can get out of the pocket and run the scramble drill with always looking downfield at the WRs to break off the route and just get open. That has been where DK has had most of his success. Russell is one of the best at gettign out of the pocket but not taking off right away and looking downfield till the very last possible sec. 
    • Doesnt help that the Patriots were proven to be cheating pretty much every year and are still getting caught to this day. Helps just a little bit when you know the plays the other team is calling. 
  • Members

    • bertjones7

      bertjones7 110

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • IndyD4U

      IndyD4U 714

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Dogg63

      Dogg63 2,035

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Shive

      Shive 1,974

      Moderators
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • nmesc25

      nmesc25 4

      Rookie
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • RNGDShobby

      RNGDShobby 184

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • gspdx

      gspdx 599

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • uniquicity

      uniquicity 0

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • PureLuck

      PureLuck 157

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • NewColtsFan

      NewColtsFan 8,325

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...