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6 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

I don't see them taking 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds. If they take one later than that, it's doubtful that pick would be ready to compete and displace Pascal. The early round pick IMO will be an X, and push down Pascal like I listed, but even then Pascal would still get decent usage in the slot.

I agree about not picking two WRs by pick 76.  He might go WR and TE though.  My response was thinking more in the line of a 4th through 6th rounder being able to push Pascal this year or next.  

 

I think if you look at the vets he has signed to fill holes, I'm thinking OT is up there in terms of his targets in the first three rounds.  OT, WR, and TE would not surprise me.

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4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

I agree about not picking two WRs by pick 76.  He might go WR and TE though.  My response was thinking more in the line of a 4th through 6th rounder being able to push Pascal this year or next.  

 

I think if you look at the vets he has signed to fill holes, I'm thinking OT is up there in terms of his targets in the first three rounds.  OT, WR, and TE would not surprise me.

One can make arguments for WR, OT, OG, CB, S, TE, QB, and even RB in the first 3 rounds. The only position I think is off the board is LB early. Regardless, I don't see Pascal getting knocked out of the back up X by anyone taken in the 4th through 6th rounds this year. He knows the O to well, and has come on nicely. I don't see him as a starter, but he can be very productive as a 2nd X and option for big slot. If they do draft a second WR later, it would likely be z/slot with good measurables (think project type from smaller school). Purely my opinion.

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Just now, EastStreet said:

One can make arguments for WR, OT, OG, CB, S, TE, QB, and even RB in the first 3 rounds. The only position I think is off the board is LB early. Regardless, I don't see Pascal getting knocked out of the back up X by anyone taken in the 4th through 6th rounds this year. He knows the O to well, and has come on nicely. I don't see him as a starter, but he can be very productive as a 2nd X and option for big slot. If they do draft a second WR later, it would likely be z/slot with good measurables (think project type from smaller school). Purely my opinion.

I agree.  I'm getting into the weeds on whether our 4th best WR by your scenario should be upgraded with a 4th or 5th round pick in a WR deep draft.  Who cares.  We both agree that a big bodied WR is likely to be taken early.

 

Speaking of RB, I'm not a huge fan of Mack.  Doesn't really catch but yet is not really a power back.  If we took Swift early or Dillon late that would be a nice addition.  

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Johnson will catch plenty of balls from Rivers .Rivers loves the deep ball and this guy can run the go .Looking at Him And Burton differently now .I do think these guys fit a need.Chris is getting players who are familiar not only with Frank system but with Johnson a player who knows the Colts way .I am truly excited now for tomorrow.I do think we trade up not back Chris is all in .

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7 hours ago, Shafty138 said:

Yeah, that's by far the prevailing sentiment here...  Good thing your sarcasm pointed out the inherent folly in someone being glad a depth guy who has shown he can handle spot duty was brought back...  I was almost confused about whether or not I should gripe, or cheer.... Now that I see the error of thinking there could be shades of Gray in this binary world, I thank you... I am truly forever indebted to you and your pithy retorts for showing me the way.


You’re welcome.

 

Now let’s hope that this stiff Marcus Johnson doesn’t make the team, and the Colts draft some actual legit talent to play WR next season.

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5 hours ago, Coltsman1788 said:

You are generous to have Campbell in the WR 2 position.  He was injured...I know but he showed very little last year.  At this point...I like Pascal a lot better.  But I know Pascal is a #3 caliber guy.  Campbell could evolve to a 2 but he definitely has to earn it and will most likely have some added competition for it after the draft.  Campbell has slot receiver talent but could slip to #4 if he doesn’t ball out. 


I have Pascal as a 4, at best.  Campbell has proven nothing and looks to be another Ballard round 2 bust,  and the other 2 aren’t even NFL roster worthy.

 

This WR group really sucks right now.

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11 hours ago, Myles said:

 

I can't argue that.  I don't think the gap is too big though.   My point is that I don't want to see the Colts draft a WR in the 5th-7th round.   Unless of course someone with great potential is there.  I wouldn't want to see them draft a comparable player to compete with Johnson, Pascal and Fountain.

Ya if they draft one or two it better be a number 1or two guy.

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7 hours ago, MacDee1975 said:


I have Pascal as a 4, at best.  Campbell has proven nothing and looks to be another Ballard round 2 bust,  and the other 2 aren’t even NFL roster worthy.

 

This WR group really sucks right now.

You can tell that from 1 injury plagued season with Brissett as QB?   Your armchair is broken.

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9 hours ago, MacDee1975 said:


I have Pascal as a 4, at best.  Campbell has proven nothing and looks to be another Ballard round 2 bust,  and the other 2 aren’t even NFL roster worthy.

 

 

I forgot to inquire about this part.    It looks like you are insinuating that Ballard frequently picks busts in the second round.

Are you referring to these player:

Leonard

Smith

Turay

Rock

Banogu

Campbell - I know this is the one you said looks like a bust after 1 season with Brissett.  

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3 hours ago, Myles said:

You can tell that from 1 injury plagued season with Brissett as QB?   Your armchair is broken.

 

I was talking about Johnson.  But since you were asking about Campbell, yes:  very ominous beginning to his career, that many injury issues in one season.

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1 hour ago, Myles said:

I forgot to inquire about this part.    It looks like you are insinuating that Ballard frequently picks busts in the second round.

Are you referring to these player:

Leonard

Smith

Turay

Rock

Banogu

Campbell - I know this is the one you said looks like a bust after 1 season with Brissett.  

 

I'm referring to:

 

Quincy Wilson

Tequan Lewis

Ben Banogu

Parris Campbell

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1 hour ago, Mr.NotSoCreative said:

Albeit low in your opinion, there is a level of skepticism though. As for the thread, good depth signing w/ Johnson. Still need more in that room.

I agree, but calling all 4 of these players busts at this point is reaching.

Quincy Wilson

Tequan Lewis

Ben Banogu

Paris Campbell

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