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2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Texans take Solomon Kindley OG I'm at work so I don't know who is next

 

@VikingsFanInChennai is next for the Las Vegas Raiders till 9 pm ET.

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40 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

@VikingsFanInChennai is next for the Las Vegas Raiders till 9 pm ET.

 

It is about 5am in India. I hope he wakes up before his time is up. I believe he mentioned that Raiders need help in LB corps.

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4 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

It is about 5am in India. I hope he wakes up before his time is up. I believe he mentioned that Raiders need help in LB corps.

We took a LB for the Raiders already. I think Troy Dye was his name? Backup RB to Jacobs would be solid with guys like Akers and Moss available. Would make a nice tandem. Nice BPA as well.

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

We took a LB for the Raiders already. I think Troy Dye was his name? Backup RB to Jacobs would be solid with guys like Akers and Moss available. Would make a nice tandem. Nice BPA as well.

 

Okay. No problem. 

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2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

It is about 5am in India. I hope he wakes up before his time is up. I believe he mentioned that Raiders need help in LB corps.

He’s been active even prior to having teams,  executive decision being made here, we’re gonna give him a one time, extension until 10pm , 

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7 minutes ago, csmopar said:

He’s been active even prior to having teams,  executive decision being made here, we’re gonna give him a one time, extension until 10pm , 


I like it. :) 

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Jon Gruden likes to run the ball, he doesn't like if his starting RB is unavailable and he has to rely on his QB to win the game. Josh Jacobs will be the #1 RB for foreseeable future, but Gruden would like to have a double-headed monster of a run game to compete with chiefs an division rivals. It's a good time to have run dominated offense when the division is little suspect in run defense. 

 

With 91st pick in 2020 Gavin's Mock Draft, Las Vegas Raiders select

 

Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU

 

Clyde's fit in multiple running style and his route running prowess would give Jon Gruden what he needs to take his offense in the path of his vision. 

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8 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

Sorry for the delay, I will send the list of options to commissioners in future for my teams if it's getting after hours here.

No worries, I wasn’t concerned. 
 

have a good one 

 

 

 

and with that, the draft will do our nightly pause and pick back up tomorrow 

 

thank you to Chad72 and NFLfan and everyone else for picking up in my absence. Wasn’t a planned thing but it’s sorted now, well as best it can be, thanks all and have a good night

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19 minutes ago, csmopar said:

No worries, I wasn’t concerned. 
 

have a good one 

 

 

 

and with that, the draft will do our nightly pause and pick back up tomorrow 

 

thank you to Chad72 and NFLfan and everyone else for picking up in my absence. Wasn’t a planned thing but it’s sorted now, well as best it can be, thanks all and have a good night

Hope everything is okay on the home front. Thanks to all of you guys for keeping this tradition going. It’s a lovely distraction and I know a lot of posters are happy just to read along. Keep up the great work!

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Round 3

65.Cincinnati- Tyler Johnson-WR, Minnesota
66. Washington - K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio State
67. Dallas f/ Detroit - Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir-Rhyme
68. NY Jets f/NYG - John Hightower, WR, Boise State
69. Carolina - Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
70. Miami -- JK Robbins, RB, Ohio St.
71. LA Chargers -Davon Hamilton - DT The Ohio State
72. Arizona -- Thaddeus Moss, TE, 
73. Jacksonville -- Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
74. Cleveland - Ashtyn Davis, S, Cal. 
75. Indianapolis -- KJ Ryan Hamler, WR, Penn St.
76. Tampa Bay - Jacob Eason, QB, Washington
77. Denver - Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State
78. Atlanta - Logan Wilson, LB, Wyoming
79. NY Jets - Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
80. Las Vegas - Donovan Peoples Jones, WR, Michigan
81. Las Vegas f/CHI - Troy Dye, LB, Oregon
82. Dallas - Jabari Zuniga, EDGE, Florida
83. Denver f/PIT - Shane Lemeuix, OG, Oregon
84. LA Rams - Jeremy Chinn, S, S. Illinois
85. Dallas f/Detroit f/PHI - Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
86. Buffalo - Lucas Niang, OT, TCU
87. New England - Matt Hennessy, C, Temple
88. New Orleans - Jordan Brooks, LB, Texas Tech
89. Minnesota - Robert Hunt, OL, Louisiana-Lafayette
90. Houston- Solomon Kindley OG
91. Las Vegas f/SEA via HOU- Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU
92. Baltimore- @WarGhost21
93. Tennessee- @chad72
94. Green Bay- @danlhart87
95. Denver f/SF- @Jared Cisneros
96. Vikings f/ Kansas City- @NFLfan
97. Cleveland f/HOU*- @coltsfanej
98. New England*- @Archer
99. Vikings f- NY Giants @NFLfan
100. New England*@Archer
101. Seattle*- @danlhart87
102. Pittsburgh*- @Zoltan
103. Philadelphia*- @coltsfanmurf
104. LA Rams*- @VikingsFanInChennai 
105. Kansas City f/ Minnesota*- @VikingsFanInChennai 
106. Baltimore*- @WarGhost21

List of teams and GM:

Arizona Cardinals @CR91
Atlanta Falcons @chad72
Baltimore Ravens- @WarGhost21
Buffalo Bills- @Matthew Gilbert
Carolina Panthers @ColtsGermany
Chicago Bears - @CR91
Cincinnati Bengals @crazycolt1
Cleveland Browns @coltsfanej
Dallas Cowboys @shastamasta
Denver Broncos @Jared Cisneros
Detroit Lions @Matthew Gilbert
Green Bay Packers @danlhart87
Houston Texans @danlhart87
Indianapolis Colts @WarGhost21
Jacksonville Jaguars @stitches
Kansas City Chiefs- @VikingsFanInChennai 
Los Angeles Chargers @Clem-Dog
Los Angeles Rams- @VikingsFanInChennai 
Miami Dolphins @twfish
Minnesota Vikings @NFLfan
New England Patriots @Archer
New Orleans Saints @SaturdayAllDay
New York Giants @runthepost
New York Jets @John Hammonds
Oakland Raiders- @RNGDShobby
Philadelphia Eagles @coltsfanmurf
Pittsburgh Steelers- @Zoltan
San Francisco 49ers @pacolts56
Seattle Seahawks @danlhart87
Tampa Bay Buccaneers @Zoltan
Tennessee Titans- @chad72
Washington Redskins- @John Hammonds

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One correction needed in the GM list: 

 

Raiders (Oakland--> Las Vegas) needs to be updated to my name. 

 

So, I have Rams, Chiefs and Raiders. 

 

I think @RNGDShobby and @DiogoZ are unavailable so I think I got these two teams (Rams and Raiders), if not mistaken. CrazyColt gave Chiefs to me.

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With the 92nd pick in the 2020 Gavin Mock Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select:

 

Damien Lewis, G, LSU

 

They need interior line help, and Lewis can come in as a potential third round day 1 starter! 

 

@chad72 and the Titans are on the clock!

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Having drafted Bryce Hall and Brandon Aiyuk, the Titans again get value for the 93rd pick in the Gavin mock draft, The Tennessee Titans select:

 

Julian Okwara, EDGE, Notre Dame

 

Paired with Harold Landry, it gives them 2 very good young pass rushers. 

 

@danlhart87 and The Green Bay Packers are on the clock.

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The Packers select Jake Fromm

 

He's clearly not starter material but learning under one of the best could be very beneficial for Fromm.

 

Who knows maybe he could end up taking over as starter after Rodgers retires.

 

From one discount double check to another.

 

Who better than Jake Fromm State Farm?

 

aaron rodgers GIF

 

 

@Jared Cisneros

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2 hours ago, csmopar said:

Round 3

65.Cincinnati- Tyler Johnson-WR, Minnesota
66. Washington - K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio State
67. Dallas f/ Detroit - Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir-Rhyme
68. NY Jets f/NYG - John Hightower, WR, Boise State
69. Carolina - Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
70. Miami -- JK Robbins, RB, Ohio St.
71. LA Chargers -Davon Hamilton - DT The Ohio State
72. Arizona -- Thaddeus Moss, TE, 
73. Jacksonville -- Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
74. Cleveland - Ashtyn Davis, S, Cal. 
75. Indianapolis -- KJ Ryan Hamler, WR, Penn St.
76. Tampa Bay - Jacob Eason, QB, Washington
77. Denver - Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State
78. Atlanta - Logan Wilson, LB, Wyoming
79. NY Jets - Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
80. Las Vegas - Donovan Peoples Jones, WR, Michigan
81. Las Vegas f/CHI - Troy Dye, LB, Oregon
82. Dallas - Jabari Zuniga, EDGE, Florida
83. Denver f/PIT - Shane Lemeuix, OG, Oregon
84. LA Rams - Jeremy Chinn, S, S. Illinois
85. Dallas f/Detroit f/PHI - Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
86. Buffalo - Lucas Niang, OT, TCU
87. New England - Matt Hennessy, C, Temple
88. New Orleans - Jordan Brooks, LB, Texas Tech
89. Minnesota - Robert Hunt, OL, Louisiana-Lafayette
90. Houston- Solomon Kindley OG
91. Las Vegas f/SEA via HOU- Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU
92. Baltimore- @WarGhost21 Damien Lewis, G, LSU
93. Tennessee- @chad72  Julian Okwara, EDGE, Notre Dame

94. Green Bay- @danlhart87 Jake Fromm
95. Denver f/SF- @Jared Cisneros
96. Vikings f/ Kansas City- @NFLfan
97. Cleveland f/HOU*- @coltsfanej
98. New England*- @Archer
99. Vikings f- NY Giants @NFLfan
100. New England*@Archer
101. Seattle*- @danlhart87
102. Pittsburgh*- @Zoltan
103. Philadelphia*- @coltsfanmurf
104. LA Rams*- @VikingsFanInChennai 
105. Kansas City f/ Minnesota*- @VikingsFanInChennai 
106. Baltimore*- @WarGhost21

List of teams and GM:

Arizona Cardinals @CR91
Atlanta Falcons @chad72
Baltimore Ravens- @WarGhost21
Buffalo Bills- @Matthew Gilbert
Carolina Panthers @ColtsGermany
Chicago Bears - @CR91
Cincinnati Bengals @crazycolt1
Cleveland Browns @coltsfanej
Dallas Cowboys @shastamasta
Denver Broncos @Jared Cisneros
Detroit Lions @Matthew Gilbert
Green Bay Packers @danlhart87
Houston Texans @danlhart87
Indianapolis Colts @WarGhost21
Jacksonville Jaguars @stitches
Kansas City Chiefs- @VikingsFanInChennai 
Los Angeles Chargers @Clem-Dog
Los Angeles Rams- @VikingsFanInChennai 
Miami Dolphins @twfish
Minnesota Vikings @NFLfan
New England Patriots @Archer
New Orleans Saints @SaturdayAllDay
New York Giants @runthepost
New York Jets @John Hammonds
Oakland Raiders- @VikingsFanInChennai 
Philadelphia Eagles @coltsfanmurf
Pittsburgh Steelers- @Zoltan
San Francisco 49ers @pacolts56
Seattle Seahawks @danlhart87
Tampa Bay Buccaneers @Zoltan
Tennessee Titans- @chad72
Washington Redskins- @John Hammonds

 

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58 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

The Packers select Jake Fromm

 

He's clearly not starter material but learning under one of the best could be very beneficial for Fromm.

 

Who knows maybe he could end up taking over as starter after Rodgers retires.

 

From one discount double check to another.

 

Who better than Jake Fromm State Farm?

 

aaron rodgers GIF

 

 

@Jared Cisneros

 

You posted this at 10:16. So, @Jared Cisneros has until about 12:16.

 

I will be back at 12:30 to make my pick.

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11 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

You posted this at 10:16. So, @Jared Cisneros has until about 12:16.

 

I will be back at 12:30 to make my pick.

awesome!

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On 3/27/2020 at 7:05 PM, csmopar said:

Time has expired on @OffensivelyPC, hes not been around all week, missed all of his picks so far. Going forward, the Greenbay Packers will be on auto-draft at BPA:

For this pick, that selection is Nick Coe, DT

On the clock until 10PM is @crazycolt1

Sorry bro.  I mean no disrespect at all.  But if it's not work it's kids so finding the time to keep up with this is difficult.  @chad72 This could probably be directed at you as well.  I know you guys work hard to keep this thing going and I'm not trying to be difficult or make your job (as a volunteer no less) harder.

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15 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Sorry bro.  I mean no disrespect at all.  But if it's not work it's kids so finding the time to keep up with this is difficult.  @chad72 This could probably be directed at you as well.  I know you guys work hard to keep this thing going and I'm not trying to be difficult or make your job (as a volunteer no less) harder.

 

Totally understand. @csmopar is just sticking to the rules he framed earlier for the sake of moving the draft along. It is nothing personal against you, life happens, we all know that. :) 

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In case he doesn’t make it, are we maybe thinking WR for Denver?  They’ve already drafted a LB, CB, and OG.

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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

Sorry about the delay, was a bit busy this morning and thought I had more time.

No prob.  Didn’t mean to rush you - just trying to prepare in case there was an inadvertent no-show...  Cheers...

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25 minutes ago, Archer said:

No prob.  Didn’t mean to rush you - just trying to prepare in case there was an inadvertent no-show...  Cheers...

appreciate it, but there's no need. if someone misses a pick, we'll just go with the original plan going forward, BPA at a listed position of need not already addressed.

I think next weekend if we're still on going, we're gonna take the weekend off, I was looking at it and it looks like we had far less participation than during the week for some reason

 

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Kevin Costner and the Browns anxiously await the Vikings with two cards in hand. Will the Vikes take one of them making the decision for them? ....

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3 minutes ago, coltsfanej said:

Kevin Costner and the Browns anxiously await the Vikings with two cards in hand. Will the Vikes take one of them making the decision for them? ....

Lol. No

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The Vikings thought long and hard about drafting a QB here but the QB's comparison is to Christian Ponder and Blake Bortles. :yuk: So, no QB.

 

The Vikes cannot have enough OL with their immobile QB. So,

 

With the 96th pick of the 2020 Gavin Mock Draft, the Vikings select

John Simpson, guard, Clemson.

It may not be a scheme fit but I propose we change the scheme, as it isn't working. :hide:

 

@coltsfanej You're on the clock. 

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While the Vikings did go with the position they were looking at, they did not take the player. The Browns are a little concerned that their board may be very different from that of others as they have this player in the top 3 at the position O.o... Kevin might be in the hot seat after this draft...

 

At 97 the Browns select Jonah Jackson G Ohio St.  

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4 minutes ago, coltsfanej said:

O.o... Kevin might be in the hot seat after this draft...

 

Costner or Stefanski? lmao

 

Hot seat would be an understatement in the annual tradition of Browns head coaches. :goodluck:

 

That said, Stefanski would love this pick for zone blocking scheme.

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With the 98th pick, the Patriots select Van Jefferson, WR, Florida.  
 

@NFLfan is on the clock.

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18 minutes ago, coltsfanej said:

 

At 97 the Browns select Jonah Jackson G Ohio St.  

@coltsfanej this is why you tried to move up earlier in front of Vikings. 

 

In real draft, I hope Vikings get Jonah Jackson.

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