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Dont care what you say, no one does a game plan and says "We aint worried about Clowney". No matter how over rated one thinks he is

On a one year deal?   With money we can afford?      And not have to cut players we really want to keep to do it?   Yes,  I'd do that....     for one year,  I see far more upside t

To me that reads that the Titans want to bring back Ryan if they can’t sign Clowney. Not that Clowney wants them to sign Ryan before he will sign. Am I reading it wrong?

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12 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Don't you think Ballard has figured that all out?  That is his job.  I think he has a plan. 

Yes I think he has it covered. 

He shot Clowney a number. It's in Clowneys yard now. 

IMO it would be nice to sign Clowney but will it cost too much. I highly doubt I am the only one who had that thought. I agree it might be time to swing for the fence, who knows? 

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I think it takes another week or two of limited contact before Clowney realizes his value is far lower than he thinks. I’m not sure if teams leave it alone but Ballard could sit and wait with a 15mil/year offer. Maybe just a 1 or 2 year deal when it’s all done. I think this is what teams are looking at for him. 

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27 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

I think it takes another week or two of limited contact before Clowney realizes his value is far lower than he thinks. I’m not sure if teams leave it alone but Ballard could sit and wait with a 15mil/year offer. Maybe just a 1 or 2 year deal when it’s all done. I think this is what teams are looking at for him. 

He’s been overrated since he was drafted really. 

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Dont care what you say, no one does a game plan and says "We aint worried about Clowney". No matter how over rated one thinks he is

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2 minutes ago, krunk said:

Dont care what you say, no one does a game plan and says "We aint worried about Clowney". No matter how over rated one thinks he is

If the Colts didn't have anyone else on the DLine to account for I could see them passing on him. But now they have TWO players that have to be accounted for. This would free things up for Clowney to have many one on ones.

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I don't think we will sign him to be honest. I'd say Ballard has given him an offer and won't budge. And the reality is he can't budge. We have a load of players to be re-signed next year, we need the cap space. We won't overpay him.

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43 minutes ago, krunk said:

Dont care what you say, no one does a game plan and says "We aint worried about Clowney". No matter how over rated one thinks he is

 

Well, he IS overrated based on his draft hype, but that doesn't mean he's totally ineffective.

He DOES need to be accounted for, but it seems teams manage to handle it for the most part.

It is also true that, due to our present talent, it could free him up to be more effective, and in turn allows them all to be more effective.

 

I do have to say, thought, that it appears the most effective game plan against Clowney is a hard count on 3rd and 5 or less. He's seemingly quite the sucker for it.

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36 minutes ago, buccolts said:

 

Well, he IS overrated based on his draft hype, but that doesn't mean he's totally ineffective.

He DOES need to be accounted for, but it seems teams manage to handle it for the most part.

It is also true that, due to our present talent, it could free him up to be more effective, and in turn allows them all to be more effective.

 

I do have to say, thought, that it appears the most effective game plan against Clowney is a hard count on 3rd and 5 or less. He's seemingly quite the sucker for it.

I hate when he jumps offsides. Yes!

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15 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

Yeah not sure how legit he is but the moves the Colts have made do point to something brewing.

 

Yea, but you think we would have heard something by now

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If the deal is reasonable, in terms of money or us getting rid of him after a bad year I'm all on board. Houston, Buckner and Clowney on the dline would have me SUPER EXCITED. 

Would benefit Okereke and Leonard as well, not to mention the back end.

 

I understand why people don't like Clowney, he hasn't lived up to the massive expectations he came into the league with. Same as Luck, kinda. But make no mistake, Clowney is a really really solid player, probably the best edge player against the run and he does disrupt a lot. I say we give this a chance while we have the cap.

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Just reading through the Titans forums and most of the recent reports they have say they aren't getting Clowney so I assume it's between us and the Hawks. 

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8 hours ago, csmopar said:

He’s been overrated since he was drafted really. 

I completely agree. That being said, on a short reasonably priced deal I would like to see him add to our d-line. Could become scary good. 

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3 hours ago, CR91 said:

 Not sure how legit it is, but he does have 2000 followers

The Seahawks and Giants are both really up against the cap.  So this is getting interesting.  I also read a report where the Seahawks were also taking a look at Griffin as a fall back.   It certainly looks like the Colts are not making any more moves until they know here he signs.  JMO.

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14 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

The Seahawks and Giants are both really up against the cap.  So this is getting interesting.  I also read a report where the Seahawks were also taking a look at Griffin as a fall back.   It certainly looks like the Colts are not making any more moves until they know here he signs.  JMO.

Sounds like it

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20 hours ago, Lucky Wolf said:

 

And you wouldn't have to face this twice a year...

 


Clowney has gotten Nelson as well. Would love to have them both on the same team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, krunk said:

Dont care what you say, no one does a game plan and says "We aint worried about Clowney". No matter how over rated one thinks he is


Exactly...would love to have him at DE.

 

To prove your point...here is a quote from our own Frank Reich before the IND/HOU WC game:

 

"Some teams have a philosophy of stop the run on your way to rushing the quarterback: penetrate, penetrate, penetrate, and then stop the run through causing disruption," Colts coach Frank Reich said. "Players like Clowney can do that. He's very disruptive.

 

"He's a playmaker and can do it from outside, can do it from inside and you have to account for him no matter where he lines up."

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1 hour ago, PeterBowman said:

Just saw a blurb on NFL Network with Ian Rapoport. He was saying Clowney won't mind waiting until the right deal. Sounds like this could go on a little bit.

The flip side is the teams he's talking to might lose patience and move on.  Reportedly the Titans have dropped out.  He might not get the deal he wants but he should get a nice deal regardless.  It appears there are only a few teams that want him who can afford to pay him a good contract.  If I were him I would make a decision sooner rather than later before those teams make a decision he won't like.  

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4 hours ago, shastamasta said:


Exactly...would love to have him at DE.

 

To prove your point...here is a quote from our own Frank Reich before the IND/HOU WC game:

 

"Some teams have a philosophy of stop the run on your way to rushing the quarterback: penetrate, penetrate, penetrate, and then stop the run through causing disruption," Colts coach Frank Reich said. "Players like Clowney can do that. He's very disruptive.

 

"He's a playmaker and can do it from outside, can do it from inside and you have to account for him no matter where he lines up."

I hope it happens as well. I prefer him over Everson Griffin due to age, premium size and length, as well as him being very good against the run. We need somebody who can play the run as well as rush the passer. Our division is full of teams that like to run. Some of the top rushing teams in the league.

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17 hours ago, CR91 said:

 Not sure how legit it is, but he does have 2000 followers

Ive followed Dan for awhile. He’s a big Colts fan. Just think speculation here. He doesn’t have inside sources....to my knowledge anyways.

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10 hours ago, krunk said:

I hope it happens as well. I prefer him over Everson Griffin due to age, premium size and length, as well as him being very good against the run. We need somebody who can play the run as well as rush the passer. Our division is full of teams that like to run. Some of the top rushing teams in the league.

What about that markus guy from the giants? Believe  he had over 10 sacks.

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1 minute ago, Stephen said:

What about that markus guy from the giants? Believe  he had over 10 sacks.

I dont know if hes a target and havent looked to be honest

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Just now, krunk said:

I dont know if hes a target and havent looked to be honest

Markus golden had ten sacks and is 29. Doesnt  look like giants plan to resign him either. He may be an option  if clowney doesn't  sign

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On 3/22/2020 at 10:31 PM, richard pallo said:

Maybe they know they lost him and are moving on to plan B.  

In madden I'd sign both. The dline would be ridiculous 

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15 hours ago, shastamasta said:


Clowney has gotten Nelson as well. Would love to have them both on the same team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was definitely Q's welcome to the NFL moment.

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If the rumors on this link are true, I’d be tempted to put a timeline on my offer

 

Here is the best $ we can offer...... 

 

If we aren’t the fit today....... we aren’t the fit tomorrow 

 

by the end of the week...... let us know....

 

Dial Marcus Golden......

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

If the rumors on this link are true, I’d be tempted to put a timeline on my offer

 

Here is the best $ we can offer...... 

 

If we aren’t the fit today....... we aren’t the fit tomorrow 

 

by the end of the week...... let us know....

 

Dial Marcus Golden......

 

 

 

 

For me the end of the week is very generous.  This has been going on for quite some time now.  I would give him until 6PM today or we are done.  Time to settle this once and for all. 

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13 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

That was definitely Q's welcome to the NFL moment.


Yep...strength and athleticism in the NFL is just a different level. Would love to have Clowney.

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1 hour ago, richard pallo said:

For me the end of the week is very generous.  This has been going on for quite some time now.  I would give him until 6PM today or we are done.  Time to settle this once and for all. 

You may be right....  But.... I used to give people time to make a decision if they were moving themselves and family if applicable for employ at companies I worked with....

 

think it through......  be part of the Colts..... or not

 

 

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2 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:

You may be right....  But.... I used to give people time to make a decision if they were moving themselves and family if applicable for employ at companies I worked with....

 

think it through......  be part of the Colts..... or not

 

 

 

To be fair...it's only been 6 days since the start of FA. Last year, Houston signed on the 8th day of FA.

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