A few moves this morning

[shasta519 2,824]

19 minutes ago, stitches said:

That Blake Jarwin contract is insane. wth are Dallas doing? Doyle got a similar deal and is SO MUCH BETTER?!?!? 

 

It is...but to play devil's advocate...Jarwin is only going to be 26 and somewhat of an ascending player who has shown flashes (but Witten won't go away so he's never really been able to get the targets). I would say he's somewhat comparable to Doyle when Doyle got his first deal at age 26 (a deal that is likely on par with Jarwin's deal...when you account for cap increases).

[Two_pound 252]

Yea, I don't think Brissett stays if we sign Rivers(who would be a tremendous upgrade by the way), then Kelly stays as the back up and Hoyer is gone also.

[Chloe6124 9,804]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

None of the big time reporters are reporting this so I would wait before taking this for a true report. 

 

12 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

In other words Hayden Hurst ~= DeAndre Hopkins ...

 

Yeah who knows if it is fake. That would be a good deal though. 

[shasta519 2,824]

17 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

In other words Hayden Hurst ~= DeAndre Hopkins ...

 

 

BAL keeps getting absurd deals. Hurst is a draft bust from two years ago...who is somehow going to be 27 this season...and BAL gets a mid 2nd round pick out of him?

[w87r 5,013]

3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

At that price, I'd think Brissett is cut fairly quickly.

I would hold out hopes we cpuld trade him.

 

If so we could get off the hook for all bit $5.5m. Saving about $15m.

 

Straight release we would save around $8m. Throw in Hoyer release and good chunk of Rivers is paid for.

 

Rivers should excite everyone.

 

1. No Jacoby starting

2. Rivers can get is to playoffs

3. All bit means we are drafting QB of future this year.

 

Good times.

 

 

[shasta519 2,824]

28 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

That's not really that awful...though I am sure more than Ballard would want to spend.

 

I hope Ballard starts to explore the trade market for TEs. Njoku is likely on the outs...but maybe Howard and Engram are available as well. Doyle is solid...but it would be nice if Rivers had a good young TE to throw to as well.

[Chloe6124 9,804]

Omg 

 

 

[stitches 8,003]

1 minute ago, shastamasta said:

 

That's not really that awful...though I am sure more than Ballard would want to spend.

 

I hope Ballard starts to explore the trade market for TEs. Njoku is likely on the outs...but maybe Howard and Engram are available as well. Doyle is solid...but it would be nice if Rivers had a good young TE to throw to as well.

Yeah, we need a pass-catching TE... and a bit of a playmaker. I wonder if they won't take a TE in the draft. Like... R3-R4? Brycen Hopkins... 

[shasta519 2,824]

6 minutes ago, w87r said:

I would hold out hopes we cpuld trade him.

 

If so we could get off the hook for all bit $5.5m. Saving about $15m.

 

Straight release we would save around $8m. Throw in Hoyer release and good chunk of Rivers is paid for.

 

Rivers should excite everyone.

 

1. No Jacoby starting

2. Rivers can get is to playoffs

3. All bit means we are drafting QB of future this year.

 

Good times.

 

 

 

If Ballard is signing Rivers...I would hope he is working the phones hard to find a taker for JB (and his roster bonus)...which would save $15M in cap space. Even if Ballard needs to get creative and swap picks...get it done.

[Chloe6124 9,804]

Well

 

 

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[PuntersArePeopleToo 857]

9 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Yeah who knows if it is fake. That would be a good deal though. 

 Not sure which one you think may be fake, but both have been reported by big insider guys

[shasta519 2,824]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yeah, we need a pass-catching TE... and a bit of a playmaker. I wonder if they won't take a TE in the draft. Like... R3-R4? Brycen Hopkins... 

 

I think the draft is the most likely option...but exploring trades now would just give them more options. The issue is...that Hooper has now set the market...and any talented TE a year or two away from the end of his rookie deal is soon going to want to get theirs very soon. 

[stitches 8,003]

1 minute ago, shastamasta said:

 

I think the draft is the most likely option...but exploring trades now would just give them more options. The issue is...that Hooper has now set the market...and any talented TE a year or two away from the end of his rookie deal is soon going to want to get theirs very soon. 

Yep. OK... what do you think is a reasonable price for Njoku? Or Howard? Or Engram? 

[shasta519 2,824]

6 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Well

 

 

 

Diggs is such a diva...but I think Cousins being there for the foreseeable future means he will force his way out. There were MIN games where Cousins completely ignored Diggs. I get that teams use decoys...but something about it always felt a little different.

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1 minute ago, stitches said:

Yep. OK... what do you think is a reasonable price for Njoku? Or Howard? 

I wouldn’t want njoku. But Howard is very intriguing. I’d offer a 3rd and see what they’d say. 

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[buccolts 2,486]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

 

It's a bad day to be Tru

[Chloe6124 9,804]

 

[Shafty138 1,363]

1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:

If we find a QB we will be right there with them. I will say though Watson is such a good QB he can probably make lemonade out of lemons.

Really never has before ... What's your basis for this prediction over the course of a few weeks? If not an entire season?  Honest question, I can't think of a lot of guys he's made better by playing with him

[shasta519 2,824]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yep. OK... what do you think is a reasonable price for Njoku? Or Howard? Or Engram? 

 

It's hard to say...the Hurst deal way heavy.

 

I think Njoku would still be a Day 4 pick...but Engram and Howard probably similar to the Hurst deal. 

 

I think all 3 are better than Hurst...especially Howard and Engram...but Engram has the injury concerns. Howard would be my target...because I think BA destroys TEs.

[Chloe6124 9,804]

 

1 minute ago, Shafty138 said:

Really never has before ... What's your basis for this prediction over the course of a few weeks? If not an entire season?  Honest question, I can't think of a lot of guys he's made better by playing with him

You might be right. We are going to find out.

[DougDew 2,564]

16 minutes ago, w87r said:

 

 

Straight release we would save around $8m. Throw in Hoyer release and good chunk of Rivers is paid for.

 

 

That would be fine.  Rivers doesn't get injured, so we might not need an expensive backup.

[Chloe6124 9,804]

 

[Chloe6124 9,804]

 

[Indeee 368]

17 minutes ago, w87r said:

I would hold out hopes we cpuld trade him.

 

If so we could get off the hook for all bit $5.5m. Saving about $15m.

 

Straight release we would save around $8m. Throw in Hoyer release and good chunk of Rivers is paid for.

 

Rivers should excite everyone.

 

1. No Jacoby starting

2. Rivers can get is to playoffs

3. All bit means we are drafting QB of future this year.

 

Good times.

 

 

Lest I remind you of the bolded, that Roto has written. I have been saying this as well for months now. Rivers won't make a difference at all. If it happens, it's a waste of money.

 

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Colts have had discussion with former-Chargers QB Philip Rivers

Rapoport added, "And while nothing is done, he’s a clear target for Indy. We shall see if they can agree on the money." This is far from the first report that has linked Rivers to Indianapolis. The Colts' beastly offensive line makes them one of (very) few teams that could potentially enable the slow-footed Rivers to a bounce-back season in 2020. Still, the available skill-position weapons are hardly equivalent to what Rivers had in Los Angeles. He turns 39 in December.

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[shasta519 2,824]

5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

 

Guessing Ngakoue...since he is actively on the block.

[krunk 4,168]

2 hours ago, stitches said:

Treat this one with the required level of suspicion for CFB/Barstool Blogger but :

 

 

 

 

I have no idea how credible this guy is + I don't think we are allowed to sign or announce a signing at this point. 

I'm hoping it's true.

[krunk 4,168]

15 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yep. OK... what do you think is a reasonable price for Njoku? Or Howard? Or Engram? 

I wouldn't mind Njoku and wouldn't be surprised if the Colts work out a deal. 

[Shafty138 1,363]

Part of me thinks Rivers is gonna ask for the moon..... And if he can't get it, he'll just go take that broadcast job and make big money not being away from his kids all the time and saving his body

[CR91 6,366]

I will seriously start questioning Ballard's decision making if we do sign Rivers

[Chloe6124 9,804]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

I will seriously start questioning Ballard's decision making if we do sign Rivers

Just remember if we do it probably means they are targeting the future QB in the draft.

[CR91 6,366]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

Just remember if we do it probably means they are targeting the future QB in the draft.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Just remember if we do it probably means they are targeting the future QB in the draft.

 

Yes, but what do you do with Brissett's contract then? We'd still owe him 12 mil if we cut him

[shasta519 2,824]

15 minutes ago, krunk said:

I wouldn't mind Njoku and wouldn't be surprised if the Colts work out a deal. 

 

I would love it. Pretty much an Ebron-type roll of the dice...without the FA money.

 

Njoku is actually an elite athlete for his size...a term which gets thrown around too much imo. He has long 35" arms...can jump out of the building...is really quick...and has great straightline speed...perfect for playing in a dome. And he's only 24.

 

Bring him in for a season...let him run with Doyle (and learn the finer points of the position) and then see if he is worth giving a longer-term deal to.

[krunk 4,168]

1 minute ago, shastamasta said:

 

I would love it. Pretty much an Ebron-type roll of the dice...without the FA money.

 

Njoku is an elite athlete...which gets thrown around too much imo. He has long 35" arms...can jump out of the building...is really quick...and has great straightline speed. And he's only 24.

 

Bring him in for a season...let him run with Doyle (and learn the finer points of the position) and then see if he is worth giving a longer-term deal to.

Yeah and he hasn't had that great of a QB situation there in Cleveland.  Pair him up with somebody like Rivers (assuming we sign Rivers of course) and I think we will see more of his abilities come out.

[Chloe6124 9,804]

5 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

 

 

Yes, but what do you do with Brissett's contract then? We'd still owe him 12 mil if we cut him

We can afford to eat it. He only had this year left. So you eat it for a year or trade him for what you can. Rivers wouldn’t even matter what he gets because it would be a short term deal. 

[shasta519 2,824]

4 minutes ago, krunk said:

Yeah and he hasn't had that great of a QB situation there in Cleveland.  Pair him up with somebody like Rivers (assuming we sign Rivers of course) and I think we will see more of his abilities come out.

 

Absolutely. His rookie season was with Kizer. In Baker's rookie year...he really started to break out...but then lost last season to injuries.

 

IF the Colts could just get his 2018 production...we would be ecstatic...but I think the upside for much more is there. 

[CR91 6,366]

7 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We can afford to eat it. He only had this year left. So you eat it for a year or trade him for what you can. Rivers wouldn’t even matter what he gets because it would be a short term deal. 

 

Why eat it and add another big contract on top of it to get one year of Rivers? Just draft Herbert and let him play

[Chloe6124 9,804]

9 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Why eat it and add another big contract on top of it to get one year of Rivers? Just draft Herbert and let him play

It’s not that easy. We have no idea where the QB will be drafted. Or if we can find a trade partner.