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36 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Those 2 Ds were crazy good. Dilfer was dumped after their SB lol... Manning as a game manager is a bit weird, but if anyone could be a perfect game manager (with diminished skills), it was PM. Flacco is a very debatable case, and yes, he certainly didn't play like a game manager during that run, and neither did Foles. Johnson is just a really strange one, with a long career of bouncing around and up and down performances. He was definitely not a game manager some of the time. 

Yeah you can get away with being just a pure game manager when you have a defense like the 2000 Ravens had. I thought the team they had in 2006 was just as good and even better offensively. JB could've won 11 or 12 games on that team with Lewis carrying the ball. That defense was close to the 2000 team + it even had Ed Reed. They ran into us though, 2006 was just Peyton's year.

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Jacoby is better than Dalton, I never want to see Dalton in a Colts jersey not even as a back-up

The Colts are going to be linked to any QB out there because they have money and assists and need a QB.

Almost like there are a bunch of individuals with varied opinions... strange.

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On 3/10/2020 at 11:03 PM, EastStreet said:

Dilfer was dumped after their SB lol

 

Yes, for a shiny new object everyone knew was going to be much better- and possibly give those Ravens multiple Super Bowls.... right?

 

"Five weeks after winning the Super Bowl, the Baltimore Ravens found a new starting quarterback. They agreed to a five-year, $30 million contract yesterday with unrestricted free agent Elvis Grbac, the NFL's eighth-rated passer last season for the Kansas City Chiefs."

 

And how did that all turn out for them-

 

"The Ravens' decision to replace quarterback Trent Dilfer with Elvis Grbac after Dilfer steered the team to its only Super Bowl title was arguably one of the biggest follies in franchise history.

And according to Adam Rank of NFL.com, Grbac was one of the biggest free-agent quarterback busts in NFL history, too."

 

"Things didn't work out for the Ravens, as Grbac threw more interceptions (18) than touchdowns (15) and the team was bounced from the playoffs by the Steelers."

 

Grbac's $30 million deal included a $11 million signing bonus, notably higher than the $6.5 million bonus Brad Johnson received in his own five-year, $28 million contract with Tampa Bay. The Ravens had courted both Johnson and Grbac.

 

So what happened to each QB after playing 1 season with their new teams?

 

Grbac retired after 1 season in Baltimore.

Johnson won a Super Bowl with Tampa bay in his second year.

 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

Yes, for a shiny new object everyone knew was going to be much better- and possibly give those Ravens multiple Super Bowls.... right?

 

"Five weeks after winning the Super Bowl, the Baltimore Ravens found a new starting quarterback. They agreed to a five-year, $30 million contract yesterday with unrestricted free agent Elvis Grbac, the NFL's eighth-rated passer last season for the Kansas City Chiefs."

 

And how did that all turn out for them-

 

"The Ravens' decision to replace quarterback Trent Dilfer with Elvis Grbac after Dilfer steered the team to its only Super Bowl title was arguably one of the biggest follies in franchise history.

And according to Adam Rank of NFL.com, Grbac was one of the biggest free-agent quarterback busts in NFL history, too."

 

"Things didn't work out for the Ravens, as Grbac threw more interceptions (18) than touchdowns (15) and the team was bounced from the playoffs by the Steelers."

 

Grbac's $30 million deal included a $11 million signing bonus, notably higher than the $6.5 million bonus Brad Johnson received in his own five-year, $28 million contract with Tampa Bay. The Ravens had courted both Johnson and Grbac.

 

So what happened to each QB after playing 1 season with their new teams?

 

Grbac retired after 1 season in Baltimore.

Johnson won a Super Bowl with Tampa bay in his second year.

 

 

 

 

Sounds like the Ravens were impressed with Grbac's stats of being 8th ranked passer instead of truly understanding the reasons he was ranked 8th.

 

As long as your game manager can get the team into FG position in the last 2:00 of either half, with confidence and leadership (aka unlike Tannehill) he is a good QB for a properly balanced team and game plan.  A TD once in a while would be nice too.  Since most defenses play prevent defense in those cases, having a strong armed over the top gunslinger is moot.

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1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Sounds like the Ravens were impressed with Grbac's stats of being 8th ranked passer instead of truly understanding the reasons he was ranked 8th.

 

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I think their track record might show that they 'understand', just picked wrong guy for their team.

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8 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

Yes, for a shiny new object everyone knew was going to be much better- and possibly give those Ravens multiple Super Bowls.... right?

 

"Five weeks after winning the Super Bowl, the Baltimore Ravens found a new starting quarterback. They agreed to a five-year, $30 million contract yesterday with unrestricted free agent Elvis Grbac, the NFL's eighth-rated passer last season for the Kansas City Chiefs."

 

And how did that all turn out for them-

 

"The Ravens' decision to replace quarterback Trent Dilfer with Elvis Grbac after Dilfer steered the team to its only Super Bowl title was arguably one of the biggest follies in franchise history.

And according to Adam Rank of NFL.com, Grbac was one of the biggest free-agent quarterback busts in NFL history, too."

 

"Things didn't work out for the Ravens, as Grbac threw more interceptions (18) than touchdowns (15) and the team was bounced from the playoffs by the Steelers."

 

Grbac's $30 million deal included a $11 million signing bonus, notably higher than the $6.5 million bonus Brad Johnson received in his own five-year, $28 million contract with Tampa Bay. The Ravens had courted both Johnson and Grbac.

 

So what happened to each QB after playing 1 season with their new teams?

 

Grbac retired after 1 season in Baltimore.

Johnson won a Super Bowl with Tampa bay in his second year.

Not saying they should have dumped Dilfer or not, but the fact is, he just wasn't very good. Never a season with 60% or better completion %, never a season with more than 3000 yards, and finished his career with more INTs than TDs. Elvis being worse doesn't change that.

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