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Let’s rank the QBs now that we have finished the Senior Bowl:

 

Joe Burrow

Justin Herbert

Tua

Jordan Love
Jacob Eason

Anthony Gordon

Jalen Hurts

Jake Fromm

(Wildcard) Cole McDonald 

 

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Based on where I see them in 3-5 years

 

Burrow

Love

Herbert

Gordon

Eason

Tua (dropped because of injury history)

Montez

McDonald

Stanley

Hurtz

Fromm

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9 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Based on where I see them in 3-5 years

 

Burrow

Love

Herbert

Gordon

Eason

Tua (dropped because of injury history)

Montez

McDonald

Stanley

Hurtz

Fromm

Hope the rest of the league GMs don't think the same as you.:D

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3 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

Hope the rest of the league GMs don't think the same as you.:D

I think a lot of it has to do with how patient some GMs are, and who wants to win now. Subtracting Burrow from consideration, those who want to win now will probably prefer Herbert and Eason, while those who prefer higher ceiling and are willing to be patient or gamble might go for Love or Gordon. Tua is the strange one to me. You have to be both patient with him (to heal), but also be willing to gamble (on his entire injury history).

 

I think Fromm would be a good mid to late pick for a team happy with their current QB, is not a pass heavy offense, and simply wants a safe and cheap back up. San Fran comes to mind. Hurtz would be good for backup duties for a team like Baltimore (similar scheme).

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10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

I think a lot of it has to do with how patient some GMs are, and who wants to win now. Subtracting Burrow from consideration, those who want to win now will probably prefer Herbert and Eason, while those who prefer higher ceiling and are willing to be patient or gamble might go for Love or Gordon. Tua is the strange one to me. You have to be both patient with him (to heal), but also be willing to gamble (on his entire injury history).

 

I think Fromm would be a good mid to late pick for a team happy with their current QB, is not a pass heavy offense, and simply wants a safe and cheap back up. San Fran comes to mind. Hurtz would be good for backup duties for a team like Baltimore (similar scheme).

Agree but will have to check with NCF before I can totally agree.haha

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We're definitely not happy with our current QB, so if we miss out on Burrow, Herbert, Love...Fromm or Gordon will do, but preferably Fromm.

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For me it's the following. If people want to look at Love's 2018 season (which is definitely valid), I think the same should be done with Fromm's 2018 season (30 TD). You can even see down field shots from him that were perfectly placed.

 

Burrow

Tua

Herbert

Love

Fromm

Eason

Gordon

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53 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

Agree but will have to check with NCF before I can totally agree.haha

That's very important lol...

 

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1. Burrow

2. Herbert

3. Love

4. Fromm

5. Gordon 

6. Eason

7. Hurts 

8. Shea

 

Not much to see here. I played it somewhat safe. I like Fromm a decent deal more than others here do, but I acknowledge I have my concerns. As I said elsewhere either today or yesterday, only the top two would have me really hyped at 13. Love would have me optimistic. Fromm I would be content with at 34 if the coaches and FO like him, more ideally 44. Gordon would need to wait till at least 44, more ideally 75. Eason is just someone I'm waiting to see more of. Consider him TBD really. 

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1 hour ago, WarGhost21 said:

Burrow

Tua

Herbert

Love/Eason

Gorden

Montez

Fromm

I think that's how the 1st four go off the board with the 4th being Love. 

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37 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I think that's how the 1st four go off the board with the 4th being Love. 

I agree, but other than Burrow I think every one of them will be a reach

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2 hours ago, hoosierhawk said:

Agree but will have to check with NCF before I can totally agree.haha


You don’t need my permission...

 

Im sure your judgement is as good as anyone’s around here...   have fun!  

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1 hour ago, funktacious2 said:

1. Burrow

2. Herbert

3. Love

4. Fromm

5. Gordon 

6. Eason

7. Hurts 

8. Shea

 

Not much to see here. I played it somewhat safe. I like Fromm a decent deal more than others here do, but I acknowledge I have my concerns. As I said elsewhere either today or yesterday, only the top two would have me really hyped at 13. Love would have me optimistic. Fromm I would be content with at 34 if the coaches and FO like him, more ideally 44. Gordon would need to wait till at least 44, more ideally 75. Eason is just someone I'm waiting to see more of. Consider him TBD really. 


Tua?    
 

Not even on the list?   

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Do you think arm strength can improve? That would determine my positioning after 

Burrow

Tua

Herbert

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5 hours ago, hoosierhawk said:

Hope the rest of the league GMs don't think the same as you.:D


I hope in 3-5 years../that’s where they actually see them...as Love is leading the Colts to a 2nd Super Bowl win.

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28 minutes ago, funktacious2 said:

Ahhh yeah... whoops

Hey....    we’ve all had those whoops moments.    Comes with the territory. 
 

I’ve had some whoppers!     :peek:

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For me the tiers are more important the the specific ranking... I rank players within a tier very similarly and even though I would have preferences within them, I don't feel strongly enough to argue one over the other. 

 

Tier 1(sell the farm for him - i.e. multiple 1sts, multiple day 2 picks, etc)

Burrow

 

Tier 2 (trade a significant asset for him - i.e. a future 1st round pick)

Tua(if I have medical guarantees he'd be alright health-wise)

 

Tier 3 (trade a medium level asset for him(i.e. a second, a third...) or take him at #13)

Love

Herbert

Tua(if our medical staff cannot give you any guarantees whatsoever either way -for example, there were some reports that it might be too early before the draft to tell whether he will be good or not)

 

Tier 4 (second round)

Eason

Fromm

 

 

Tier 5 (third-fourth round)

Gordon(have to do more work on him, might change his ranking)

Hurts

 

Tier 6 (round 5-7)

Tua(if the medicals come bad and there is high risk of reinjury/retirement/not full recovery/etc.)

Tyler Huntley

Nate Stanley

 

 

I'm still watching some QBs so that's not my final ranking. 

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Eason, Fromm, and Tua were not available to be evaluated during SB week, so its an Incomplete for them through 1/26/2020. 

 

I guess Burrow had a good season and is the consensus #1 pick.  Nobody has suggested that he might be available for the Colts, so I really haven't looked at him much.  Based on the QBs I paid attention too:

 

Herbert

Love

Gordon.

 

Herbert is a plug in day 1 starter right now, and can learn on the job.  Love and Gordon need some developmental work on how to play the game, IMO, and will cost a team too many games if inserted day 1 at this point in their development.  Gordon is probably ahead of Love at this point in terms of day 1 readiness, but might be held back due to physicality issues.  I'm not too interested in Gordon.

 

The combine will tell us more, and either assuage or enhance physicality concerns for the QBs.

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8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:


You don’t need my permission...

 

Im sure your judgement is as good as anyone’s around here...   have fun!  

'Can't we all just get along?' Want you and Eaststreet to kiss and make up as I appreciate you and Eaststreets' inputs.

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Joe Burrow

Tua

Justin Herbert

Jordan Love

Anthony Gordon

Jake Fromm

Jacob Eason

Jalen Hurts

 

 

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Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect.

 

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I tier them thusly:

 

Tier 1 (Franchise QB) - Burrow, Tua, Herbert

 

Tier 2 (potential solid starter) - Eason, Love, Gordon, Fromm

 

Tier 3 (Developmental) - Morgan, Montez, Hurts, Stanley, Huntley, etc.

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