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3 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:


It’s not trashing. He did not play well all season. He struggled all season. There weren’t games where you said that guy is going to be a good one. This was a bad season. Nothing wrong with calling it like it is

Jeez, if you are pointing fingers there is enough to go around. 

Go ahead and pick on the rookie if it makes you feel better. 

Please list me all the rookies at his position that have played at a great level if you don't mind. I am curious. 

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I think we do not have smart decision makers for this team.  Look at Titans, they're going to the playoffs, the same team that we've been beating like a drum the last few years.  So, it goes to show you, smart Coaches and GMs especially owners make the difference....

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Our defense can't hold up if we have a QB who turns the ball over.  Reich probably knows this and its reflected in the game planning.

 

So I hope we don't try to shoot for a QB who will give us a "top 5" passing attack until we get the D straightened out.

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4 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Jeez, if you are pointing fingers there is enough to go around. 

Go ahead and pick on the rookie if it makes you feel better. 

Please list me all the rookies at his position that have played at a great level if you don't mind. I am curious. 


That would require me pay attention to other teams as much as I do the Colts, which isn’t the case. I can only speak about Rock and he just didn’t play well this season period. Also, I never blamed

him alone. The defense as a whole was bad

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1 hour ago, Shafty138 said:

You wanted him to get starter quality players with every. Single. Acquisition.  Lmao.  The entire roster needed replaced minus a small handful of players.... Half of which were either kicking specialists or have retired now.  It is good to see there are forum features for the visually impaired though apparently.....  It isn't like Ballard is infallible.  But look at his acquisition s and cap management..... As opposed to the guy before him.  And then compared to anyone else replacing an entire roster in three offseasons.  He's doing just fine overall, and exceedingly well in some areas.  Ballard is also short of amazing in a few as yet to be determined areas as well ...

U missed the  point. Everyone keeps pointing to Ballard's picks and how a lot of them are starting, so therefore he is nailing the draft. He basically turned over the roster, so of course many of his picks have grabbed a starting role.  My question is how many of those guys starting show a lot of promise and/or are valued players? I have come to the conclusion that Brissett is not the guy.  However,  people r heaping most of the blame on him and failing to call out the horrendous defence.  It has been 2 years and  the D getting is worse.  That is on the GM and coaches fault. I am not sure who is more at fault, but Ballard seems to be getting a pass.

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3 minutes ago, masterlock said:

Brissett isn't the answer, but I think the Colts will stick with him for at least another year, and then move on. Maybe by that time, they'll give Chad Kelly a shot.

Till Kelly can show he has what it takes he will not be a starter.

This nonsense of fans thinking he is better than JB is not shared by no one in the Colts coaching staff. He wasn't even active the last two weeks so there that is.

Regardless what JB does Kelly hasn't shown he is a starter to no one but butt hurt forum fans. 

He may get his chance in training camp and pre season, who knows? 

If he is even on the roster. 

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4 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:


That would require me pay attention to other teams as much as I do the Colts, which isn’t the case. I can only speak about Rock and he just didn’t play well this season period. Also, I never blamed

him alone. The defense as a whole was bad

It normally takes a cornerback 2-3 years to learn that position. 

That is the reality of learning that position. 

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We have all heard it.  Nice guys finish last.  And that might be Reichs downfall.  He stayed with Adam too long and his loyalty and confidence in JB seems unwavering.  Irsay knows football and I'm sure he can see what everyone else is seeing.  Jb is not the answer and if nothing changes this offseason he will be looking at a lot of empty seats next year.  I can't imagine he will stand for that.  The franchise and the fans need a shot of adrenaline for the upcoming season and I think Ballard and Reich are going to be under pressure to deliver on that.  So saddle up.  I think this off season is going to be one heck of a ride. 

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26 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

For being a rookie playing almost every snap I disagree. He had very good moments and looked pretty good. You just want to point out the bad ones.

More bad than good. Look I understand the “he’s a rookie, playing a tough position” but where was the progression. Often times he looked lost. Most rookies look more comfortable  toward the end of the year, Ya Sin didn’t. 

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The real problem will be if Reich lives of to his claim that JB is his guy. If the 12/29/19 performance against the cellar dweller Jags has not made the case for Brissett's exit then what will? 

P.S Coach, please start shaving before the games.

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1 hour ago, boo2202 said:

Ya Sin has been terrible. He’s regressed in every game. This draft class is very questionable.

No he hasnt, he’s had his ups and downs as any rookie has. 
 

and Orekee looks more than serviceable. 

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2 hours ago, csmopar said:

Outside of Burrow, none of the other QBs look like an upgrade. And we are way too far down to remotely convince the bengals to give him up.

 

 

 Meh, I think he’s done. I’d rather have Brees haha. 
 

it’s gonna be an interesting off season with so many QBs that are long tenured entering FA and or retirement (possibly)

 

Brady

Brees

Manning

Rivers

Rothesberger (retirement rumors)

 

plus guys such as 

 

Foles

Carr 

Bridgewater 

 

all being possible trade targets. 
 

QBs are gonna be highly overhyped this draft. Had the same feeling in the 2013 class

Fromm and tua would be an upgrade 

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33 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

From Is no better then Jacoby. He is highly inaccurate with the deep pass. 60% of his passes have been screen passes.

Fromm was a much better college QB than Jacoby ever was. Why would you think he would be no better of a  pro?

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For all the posters that say trade up for Burrow. I would love it...i think he will be great. But absolutely no way will the Bengals trade the pick. They tanked for him. Burrow is from Ohio and it will be a marketing bonanza for the cheap Bengals ownership. I just hope he doesn't get abused like Luck did by an awful OL...he seems like a really good kid. Love his accuracy as a passer too...10 times better than scatter gun Brissett.

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While watching the game Iwas impressed with Archuletas candor. He repeated over and over in different ways"Brissett isn't good enough",  "he can't make the downfield throws", "he struggles on third down". Archuleta also mentioned at the beginning of the broadcast he doesn't think Brissett is the guy going forward, and kept reiterating that throughout the game. 12-25 for 162 yards and 2 fumbles lost. An exclamation point to what should be the end of Brissetts' time with the Colts.

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1 hour ago, csmopar said:

Tua is touting that he’s thinking of staying in school. So he may not be there

I don't get the love for Tua anyway. 

 

I think he is a good QB, but he just seems like one of those QBs who does things with his feet and is blessed by having great players around him.  That's not how I would describe the QB Indy is used to, where the QB's pocket passing ability makes average players look better.  Tua just seems the opposite of that.

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30 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

Fromm was a much better college QB than Jacoby ever was. Why would you think he would be no better of a  pro?

and on that note... Kelly was also excellent in college. he at least deserved (deserves) a chance.

yet it is simply accepted by many here... that there is no way Kelly could possibly outperform Brissett.

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6 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

and on that note... Kelly was also excellent in college. he at least deserved (deserves) a chance.

yet it is simply accepted by many here... that there is no way Kelly could possibly outperform Brissett.

I think the bigger problem is that the Colts coaches seem to think that.  I still don’t understand why they didn’t play him one of these last two games and at least see what they had in him one way or another.

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5 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

and on that note... Kelly was also excellent in college. he at least deserved (deserves) a chance.

yet it is simply accepted by many here... that there is no way Kelly could possibly outperform Brissett.

 

If he did outperform Brissett, would you give him a starting QB contract & trust him to be the face of the franchise going forward?

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3 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

and on that note... Kelly was also excellent in college. he at least deserved (deserves) a chance.

yet it is simply accepted by many here... that there is no way Kelly could possibly outperform Brissett.

It's not a point that Kelly could or would out perform Brissett.

The point is Kelly didn't do enough in practices for the coaches to give him a shot.

What Kelly did in a pre season game against players who didn't make a NFL roster makes no difference. 

The coaches are the ones who seen him every practice, not the forum fans. 

No matter if anyone agrees or not he was never even the #2 QB except behind Hoyer for one game. The coaches didn't even make him active the last 2 games. 

Sorry, like it or not I trust the coaches choices over the fans in this forum. 

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2 hours ago, The Oopty Oop said:

What about bringing Rivers to town for 2 years and draft someone this year to learn under a long time vet?!?! Just thinking out loud here. He still has something in the tank and his intensity would be contagious imo.

Colts Head Coach Frank Reich was the Bolts’ quarterbacks coach in 2013 and offensive coordinator from 2014-2015. Colts OC Nick Sirianni was on the Chargers coaching staff for five seasons as the team’s offensive quality control coach (2013), quarterbacks coach (2014-2015) and wide receivers coach (2016-2017). 

 

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2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I think the bigger problem is that the Colts coaches seem to think that.  I still don’t understand why they didn’t play him one of these last two games and at least see what they had in him one way or another.

 

Logic says the coaches (Ballard?) think Kelly is inferior to Brissett.

Yet the conspiracy theory says the management may actually be more concerned to "save face" with Jacoby at QB, and don't want to risk having him showed up by Kelly.

 

So the question really is, how much exactly of each is true?

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4 hours ago, ColtJax said:

Decent back up, but a guy that just plays scared. He holds onto the ball too long, misses open receivers and just can't move the team. This game has to be the final nail in that debate..

I agree but unfortunately we don't get to make those decisions. What do you propose the Colts do though? Do you draft a QB or do go get a savvy vet that probably won't pan out? I'd personally would draft one. But is the one they want going to be there when they draft even if they trade up that's the question. As far as Luck coming back none of us know anything about whether Luck would even consider coming back. As far as we know Luck is completely done with no thought at all of ever coming back. 

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6 minutes ago, DarkHorseColts said:

 

If he did outperform Brissett, would you give him a starting QB contract & trust him to be the face of the franchise going forward?

I think Kelly is under contract through next season. So the team would have some contractual options.

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