Jordan Love Frisco Bowl

[EastStreet]

Love did all that you could ask of a QB. The one INT was not on him.

 

Can't wait to watch him at the SR Bowl.

 

Eason up tomorrow

[BleedBlu8792]

20 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

yup, just probably not as good as runner.

 

And I'm good with that.. Having mobility around the pocket and making  good throws out of it is all I need to see. 

[BleedBlu8792]

1 minute ago, boo2202 said:

He’s not very good. Needs lots of work. 

 

Who are you referring to?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Some one can correct me if I am wrong here. Utah state looks like it runs close to a nfl offense. Kent state beat them on all the screen passes and runs.

[MPStack]

J. Love was impressive. 

[CantBeStopped]

3 minutes ago, boo2202 said:

He’s not very good. Needs lots of work. 

Hope your not talking about Love cuz he played like a future star

[EastStreet]

2 minutes ago, BleedBlu8792 said:

 

And I'm good with that..

 

Me too. I want someone that can scramble, and run effectively when he HAS to... but not a guy that runs it all the time. With our OL, I want a better passer.

[BleedBlu8792]

Just now, EastStreet said:

 

Me too. I want someone that can scramble, and run effectively when he HAS to... but not a guy that runs it all the time. With our OL, I want a better passer.

 

Agreed. 

[CantBeStopped]

Him behind our offense line would be a match made in heaven

[EastStreet]

3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Some one can correct me if I am wrong here. Utah state looks like it runs close to a nfl offense. Kent state beat them on all the screen passes and runs.

 

It's not gimmicky, so yes. Similar to Reich's in a few ways.  

[CantBeStopped]

And I think the downfall of our right side of the line has a lot to do with JBs indecisiveness

[EastStreet]

5 minutes ago, MPStack said:

J. Love was impressive. 

He definitely solidified my "like" for him.

Looking forward to watching Eason tomorrow, and Herbert later. 

[CantBeStopped]

Just now, EastStreet said:

 

It's not gimmicky, so yes. Similar to Reich's in a few ways.  

He's not afraid to throw a screen pass either which I think we've been lacking. 

[EastStreet]

Just now, CantBeStopped said:

And I think the downfall of our right side of the line has a lot to do with JBs indecisiveness

JB has one of the worst time to throws in the league. If you cut down on that, the OL would have a much easier time. 

[hoosierhawk]

1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:

Because of the competition I can see him not going in the first round. He has looked good when they have had the ball.

Should he look good when they don't have the ball also??

[EastStreet]

1 minute ago, CantBeStopped said:

He's not afraid to throw a screen pass either which I think we've been lacking. 

He made just about every NFL throw tonight. Deep in stride, deep back shoulder, perimeter back shoulders and comebacks, screens, leading crossers, vertical seams, bullets on broken plays ... So much to like.

[CantBeStopped]

1 minute ago, EastStreet said:

JB has one of the worst time to throws in the league. If you cut down on that, the OL would have a much easier time. 

I heard something not sure if true. But that our o line has allowed the QB the most time to throw in the league

[EastStreet]

Just now, CantBeStopped said:

I heard something not sure if true. But that our o line has allowed the QB the most time to throw in the league

That is absolutely true. 

And still our passing game sucks.

[BleedBlu8792]

1 minute ago, CantBeStopped said:

I heard something not sure if true. But that our o line has allowed the QB the most time to throw in the league

 IF that is true, that makes the case for Jacoby even worse.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, CantBeStopped said:

I heard something not sure if true. But that our o line has allowed the QB the most time to throw in the league

Much to my surprise we have only allowed two more sacks then last year. That is even with the bad games against the broncos and Steelers. 

[CantBeStopped]

Just now, EastStreet said:

That is absolutely true. 

And still our passing game sucks.

Just goes to show that it's our QB play that's lacking. I don't think our line has regressed as much as our QB play has taken a turn for the worse

[CantBeStopped]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Much to my surprise we have only allowed two more sacks then last year. That is even with the bad games against the broncos and Steelers. 

Last year's numbers were a little skewed though because our starters only have up like 5 sacks between the 5 of them. Most our sacks came in games they didn't all play together in

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I just realized I titled this the fiesta bowl instead of the Frisco Bowl. Lol

 

Wonder if anyone from the colts was there.

[EastStreet]

2 minutes ago, CantBeStopped said:

Just goes to show that it's our QB play that's lacking. I don't think our line has regressed as much as our QB play has taken a turn for the worse

Our OL hasn't regressed. They're stressed more than they should be is the better description. JB even impacts run blocking because teams don't respect our passing game. 

[EastStreet]

5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Much to my surprise we have only allowed two more sacks then last year. That is even with the bad games against the broncos and Steelers. 

and that's going from on of the best time to throws (Luck) to one of the worst time to throws... 

[CantBeStopped]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

I just realized I titled this the fiesta bowl instead of the Frisco Bowl. Lol

 

Wonder if anyone from the colts was there.

Haha I corrected you on the first or second post on this thread

[jameszeigler834]

He was very good tonight his defense sucks though that's why his final game goes down as a loss.

[jameszeigler834]

18 minutes ago, CantBeStopped said:

And I think the downfall of our right side of the line has a lot to do with JBs indecisiveness

That and brissett isn't a franchise QB.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Like I mentioned above the fact they pretty much run what looks like a nfl offense and not gimmicks you sometimes see in college should bode well for him. I know he mentioned running a lot of RPO in a interview and he has the ability to change a play he could fit in well with Reich. There are also teams ahead of us who have a situation where he can sit a year if needed. Maybe he more capable of starting right away then we think. We do have the oline and with some good weapons maybe he could.

[Moosejawcolt]

I am not saying I am a Love fan. However ,I would love the Colts to play hard but lose their next 2 games.  They could pick close to top 10 with A 6-10 record. People may rag on me, but if they finish 8 and 8, they would have to give up a lot of draft capital to move up for a legit qb if they chose to go in that direction.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Moosejawcolt said:

I am not saying I am a Love fan. However ,I would love the Colts to play hard but lose their next 2 games.  They could pick close to top 10 with A 6-10 record. People may rag on me, but if they finish 8 and 8, they would have to give up a lot of draft capital to move up for a legit qb if they chose to go in that direction.

They wouldn’t have to give up that much. Just depends on how far. If they only needed  to move up to ten or twelve our first next year and a third this year might do it. Or maybe one of our seconds instead of the third. It would take more if we needed to move up into the top five though.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[HectorRoberts]

4 hours ago, EastStreet said:

uhhhhh... that WR slowed up on the long pass. should have been a huge gain.

 

and then.... I know it's an INT, but it's really not lol.

 

his receivers are killing him

It looks like Chester Rogers is out there playing for them...

[Moosejawcolt]

1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:

They wouldn’t have to give up that much. Just depends on how far. If they only needed  to move up to ten or twelve our first next year and a third this year might do it. Or maybe one of our seconds instead of the third. It would take more if we needed to move up into the top five though.

I disagree.  Let's say they picked at 11th, they could possibly get their guy without trading up or possibly trading one of their 2nd round picks.  If they were at say 18 or 20, they would most likely have to give up a future 1st round and mayb another pick.  Just look at previous drafts.  It is expensive to get near the top 10.  Teams know u r going for a qb so they make u pay for it.

[NewColtsFan]

6 hours ago, CantBeStopped said:

I think if he's your guy you have to take him round 1

Russell Wilson was Seattle’s guy in 2012.    Yet, they took him with pick 75 in the third round.    You don’t want to reach if you think Love falls all the way  to the second round.    
 

Now if  they love the kid and think he won’t fall all the way,  then you take him in the first.    It all depends on your evaluation.   

[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

That and brissett isn't a franchise QB.

Were you expecting the Colts to have TWO franchise level quarterbacks on our roster?    Almost no one in football does.   It’s rare.

 

The question isn’t whether JB is a franchise QB — he’s likely not.  The question is can we win with him?  Can we make the playoffs with him?   And we were heading for that when everything went sideways and straight to Hell.

 

Now the questions internally become how much of this mess is JB’s fault and how much is elsewhere in the roster and coaching staff.   

[Yoshinator]

4 hours ago, EastStreet said:

If Tua, Burrow, and Herbert weren't all potential top 10 guys, I'd say Love would absolutely top 15. 

 

I would have never taken Allen at 7.

In one of our two mock drafts on this forum for the 2018 draft, I took Allen at 5 for the Broncos. Was my favorite QB in the draft that year.

[stitches]

6 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I have been very impressed so far. But he isn’t having to throw people open. I also have not really seen him work throw his reads. A lot is schemed for his first read and go. 
 

but again, pretty impressive. 
 

p.s interesting to hear people say he is a 2nd rounder. Would love that. Get the BPA at first pick and get Love with 2nd. 

Don't quote me on this but if he checks out off the field, he's not getting out of round 1 IMO. 

[stitches]

5 hours ago, EastStreet said:

Missed games, not totally gone. Also regressed when he was heathly

Was new

Was new

Was never thrown to before he got hurt late in the season

Was here most of the season. Also regressed

Missed a few games, he wasn't a big passing option, and the running game did fine with out him. 

So for Love to be on equal ground

1) Nelson, AC, Kelly, and Smith all gone for the entire year

2) TY, Doyle, Ebron, and Pascal, gone for the entire year

3) Mack gone the entire season, and Wilkins becoming RB1

4) The rush D giving up 50 more yards per game than they did last year

 

not the same

And take away Reich and Sirianni and put back Pagano in.  

[Yoshinator]

Pretty solid game by Love. Not sure if I want to take him top 15, but now I'm very interested in his pro day and combine when it happens.