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10 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

With the way WR have been hurt this year any WR we drafted probably would of got hurt.

Maybe no way of knowing for sure.  I just wasn’t a huge fan of Campbell to start with.

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22 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

Ok.  I hate when. A term gets used so often that it completely loses its meaning.  Luck was not the best QB of his generation.  Of guys close to his age, or in his "generation" He's not head and shoulders above Matt Ryan, Russel Wilson, Derek Carr, Garroppolo, etc.... Just like when people say a player is prototypical..... That means he's the first of a kind, but everyone uses it to try and say someone matches the desired qualities of a position..... 

 

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Prototypical does not have to mean the first of a kind. The second definition you used is indeed a definition of the word "prototypical."

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5 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Can't wait for our participation trophy. 

I can't wait for the team to acquire a starting caliber QB...

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5 minutes ago, TheMiz said:

Prototypical does not have to mean the first of a kind. The second definition you used is indeed a definition of the word "prototypical."

Learn something every day, forgot the noun could be of or relating to a prototype.  Good call!

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5 minutes ago, TheMiz said:

I can't wait for the team to acquire a starting caliber QB...

Gonna guess you'll get your wish in the draft. 

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1 hour ago, colts_100nascar17fan said:

QB. Tua will suck, lefty plus no Alabama qb has ever been good in nfl,most dont make a team. 

You must not have watched Kenny Stabler or Joe Namath?

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This team regressed w/JB.  Reich also hasn't showed much leadership in the playcalling aspect of the game....Too laid back, another Pagano clone....Trade up in the next draft to get a franchise/elite QB, do whatever....We're not going win anymore games with this bunch....

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37 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

Ok.  I hate when. A term gets used so often that it completely loses its meaning.  Luck was not the best QB of his generation.  Of guys close to his age, or in his "generation" He's not head and shoulders above Matt Ryan, Russel Wilson, Derek Carr, Garroppolo, etc.... Just like when people say a player is prototypical..... That means he's the first of a kind, but everyone uses it to try and say someone matches the desired qualities of a position..... 

 

/End rant

Those you mention probably have more skill than Luck, but what Andrew did was what the Colts needed today- he refused to let his team fall apart in the face of a few bad breaks.  He, more often than not, took it upon himself to Will the team to a needed first down or touchdown. He either ran, or dove, or just challenged defenses to stop him.  That, in the end, was his downfall, because of injuries.  

 

Jacoby might be the team leader, but he doesn’t have the skills or reckless determination/refusal to lose to make a game-saving drive like Luck did.

 

This team was set up perfectly for a Luck-type QB to take this team far into the playoffs.  Unfortunately, we don’t have one of those on this team, today...

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2 hours ago, TheMiz said:

First of all, think of what has happened the last couple times we unexpectedly lost our starting QB. The team was fighting for the #1 overall draft pick. All arrows point to this team finishing 7-9, which means the overall talent has increased, and is not as reliant on superb QB play as it has been in the past. 

On paper the D is actually good, just not good enough to carry a team. There is some great building blocks on offense, especially the o-line. Our RB Corp looks like it will continue to be legit. We have our answer on what Jacoby is, and that is a great backup/ fringe starter QB...and there's nothing wrong with that, but he should not be plan #1. We have a couple of young promising pass catchers, but this is an obvious area that needs to be improved in the off-season.

I know it sucks to look at a lost season, but there is still hope for the future with this squad...with Ballard continuing to build and fill holes through the draft.

 

Our franchise QB quit on us...our 1 and only offensive FA breaks his collarbone in the first game...our number one TE , wide receiver and RB are probably done for the year...our kicker can't make a fg over 15 yards..our #1 pass rusher breaks his leg...yep lots lots of hope for the future indeed.

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3 minutes ago, colts_100nascar17fan said:

That was like in the 60s or 70s, how many lefties been good since? Or Alabama QBs ever?

I don’t care about those technicalities.  I just responded to your statement that no Alabama QB had ever made it in the NFL.  By the way, I’ve watched the Colts since the 50s, so the 60s and 70s seem modern to me...

 

Stabler and Namath went to Alabama.

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25 minutes ago, colts_100nascar17fan said:

That was like in the 60s or 70s, how many lefties been good since? Or Alabama QBs ever?

As for Lefties...Steve Young is probably the most recent great one. 

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1 hour ago, EastStreet said:

Can't wait for our participation trophy. 

 

I'm sure Irsay will hang it from the rafters.  

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5 minutes ago, TheMiz said:

As for Lefties...Steve Young is probably the most recent great one. 

 

Boomer won an MVP, made a Super Bowl.

 

Stabler.

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Well, the"negativers"are overly negative and the "positivers"are too sunny. Some perspective?

 

Here's the truth: TY Hilton is the  critical piece of the offense. If he's out, there is no number two. The Colts need a major upgrade at this position or there will be trouble next year too. Ballard has to be very, very aggressive in fixing this problem. And it needs to be this off season. 

Here's the truth: Jack Doyle is a solid TE but he isn't a dangerous weapon. He's a great chain mover, which is truly valuable, but not enough. The Colts could really use a game changer at the position. Last year Ebron was that guy. That guy is now gone. I'd look for a FA or high draft pick here. 

Here's the truth: The "JB is terrible crowd" is wrong. He isn't awful;  the WR talent around him is mediocre. But he does have limitations and the rest of the season should be spent analyzing whether or not those limits can be overcome. If the coaches and brass believe he can get good enough to become a top QB, then ok. If not, the Colts have to draft a QB high in the 2020 draft and groom him. Just some perspective: JB is still learning and hopefully growing. 

Here's the truth: The Colts were thrown a terrible curve ball when Andrew Luck decided to walk away. If he saw his future as a crippled, demented old guy, I do get it. But his timing was just atrocious and left the team that was being built around him in a horrible position. What we are seeing today is directly related to Luck's decision. So keep some perspective on this, and understand it will take some time to overcome Andrew's retirement. 

Here's the truth: The defense has some great young players and has a terrific future. The Colts have invested well there and it will pay some big time dividends down the road. The are extremely young. We fans are going to enjoy watching them grow. Another high draft pick at DT? I'm good with that. But this D is going to be special, and is a strength.  

 

So....the future isn't all roses, but it has an upward trend. This off season will be critical for the immediate future of this team. Ballard has his greatest challenge yet; I'm glad the Colts have a guy of his talent making the calls. But his decisions in building the Colt offense of the future are going to make or break this team. Personally, I like their chances. This team has an excellent team culture and some genuine talent. The arrow still points north. 

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2 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

Boomer won an MVP, made a Super Bowl.

 

Stabler.

Boomer retired before Young. Stabler was way before Young.

So, like I said, Steve Young is probably the most recent example of a great left handed QB

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3 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

It’s not a complete failure but the Colts are close to NFL no man’s land because of that.  It’s better to be really good or really bad than average.

 

Better get used to living in no man's land if JB remains at QB. 

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3 hours ago, coltsfeva said:

Is my math wrong or does 6+4 = 10? 

 Well by my standards you are correct however in this day and age everything subjective in fact there’s no wrong answer anymore if 6+4 = 9 hey that’s OK as long as you feel good about it.  That’s the most important thing 

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14 minutes ago, TheMiz said:

Boomer retired before Young. Stabler was way before Young.

So, like I said, Steve Young is probably the most recent example of a great left handed QB

 

I wasn't correcting you.  Just adding more names to the conversation.

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One bright spot on offense this year is Pascal. He might end up with 600 yards. We need to keep him. I hope he wants to stay. 

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This upcoming draft will be the most exciting one we will have in a long time. Hopefully a new franchise QB and a stud WR. Pair that with Campbell and pascal with Hilton finishing out his career. It will be the most fun draft we have in a long time.

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1 hour ago, TheMiz said:

I can't wait for the team to acquire a starting caliber QB...

Ok I know I'm reaching but aren't Brady and brees free agents ?if they came free do u take shot on a 2 year deal and groom a draft pick 

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2 hours ago, Freenyfan102 said:

What is Paris Campbell ranks in Rookie WR in receiving yards.

You pick an injured receiver to whine about? :facepalm:

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5 minutes ago, coltfaninnewyork said:

Ok I know I'm reaching but aren't Brady and brees free agents ?if they came free do u take shot on a 2 year deal and groom a draft pick 

I don't think either of those 2 are realistic as they will be retained by their teams. But Rivers, Manning, and Roethlisberger may be available and good options to bridge the gap for a young QB.

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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

You pick an injured receiver to whine about? :facepalm:

how many game has he been out this year ohhh thats right none

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7 minutes ago, coltfaninnewyork said:

Ok I know I'm reaching but aren't Brady and brees free agents ?if they came free do u take shot on a 2 year deal and groom a draft pick 

I saw a tweet from someone thought maybe we could try and get Brees for a year. Maybe we can talk Luck into coming back for a year or two and help develop a new QB.

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2 minutes ago, TheMiz said:

I don't think either of those 2 are realistic as they will be retained by their teams. But Rivers, Manning, and Roethlisberger may be available and good options to bridge the gap for a young QB.

Just no. Rivers arm is gone. Manning is a statue. 

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

I saw a tweet from someone thought maybe we could try and get Brees for a year. Maybe we can talk Luck into coming back for a year or two and help develop a new QB.

I mean if Brees is an option, that's a good one. But why would the Saints let Brees go?

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4 minutes ago, Freenyfan102 said:

how many game has he been out this year ohhh thats right none

The last three.   He broke his hand.   Do you watch the games?

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1 minute ago, TheMiz said:

I mean if Brees is an option, that's a good one. But why would the Saints let Brees go?

Because maybe they are ready to turn it over to Bridgewater and in order to keep him they will have to guarantee he starts next year. I guess it just depends if teddy is willing to wait another year for Brees to retire.

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5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Just no. Rivers arm is gone. Manning is a statue. 

Kurt Warner was a statue when Eli was drafted...and Warner was there to fill the same role

Edit: for those not tracking, after Warner bridged the gap to Eli he statued his way to a Super Bowl appearance with the Arizona Cardinals

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1 hour ago, Shafty138 said:

Ok.  I hate when. A term gets used so often that it completely loses its meaning.  Luck was not the best QB of his generation.  Of guys close to his age, or in his "generation" He's not head and shoulders above Matt Ryan, Russel Wilson, Derek Carr, Garroppolo, etc.... Just like when people say a player is prototypical..... That means he's the first of a kind, but everyone uses it to try and say someone matches the desired qualities of a position..... 

 

/End rant

(slow clap) thank you. 

 

Luck was a good role model, citizen... Blah blah blah.. Above average qb... Not generational. 

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(slow clap) thank you. 

 

Luck was a good role model, citizen... Blah blah blah.. Above average qb... Not generational. 

Luck was a generational QB till injuries took his career and his love of the game away.

I guess you forgot about him breaking just about every record there was to break in his first three seasons. 

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1 hour ago, colts_100nascar17fan said:

That was like in the 60s or 70s, how many lefties been good since? Or Alabama QBs ever?

Bart Starr, Joe Nameth.  Stabler was a leftie and went to Alabama.   Been a long time though

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2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

Luck was a generational QB till injuries took his career and his love of the game away.

I guess you forgot about him breaking just about every record there was to break in his first three seasons. 

With 6 games a year against afc South teams... 

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3 hours ago, TheMiz said:

Definitely. But my main point was that we hovered around average with a unfortunate QB situation. An upgrade to that one position could swing us 3-4 games...which would be really good


That’s the most difficult to upgrade. We had our QB and he bounced on us. 

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1 minute ago, Ratking said:

With 6 games a year against afc South teams... 

He did beat Seattle when Seattle was unbeatable in 2013 with Wilson and their D. Also beat KC in the playoffs (2013) and won at Denver in the playoffs as an 8 point underdog over Peyton and Von Miller (2014).

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4 minutes ago, Ratking said:

With 6 games a year against afc South teams... 

Are you that narrow minded? 

I guess you forgot he beat two undefeated teams and even beat the two super bowl teams. 

 

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