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Mr.Debonair

No Funchess Again

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1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

A guy on a one year contract who happened to get hurt isn’t a bust it’s just part of football.  It’s not like he gave him a long term expensive contract or traded a first round pick for him.  That would be a Grigson level bust.  These things happen in football.  Ballard couldn’t have known that ahead of time.  If he did then of course he wouldn’t have signed him.  It stinks but this does little to no damage to the long term future of the team like Grigson did several times over.  

I disagree.

 

Saying it was Grigson level was an exaggeration but so far, signing Funch has been a bust.

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1 minute ago, colt18 said:

I disagree.

 

Saying it was Grigson level was an exaggeration but so far, signing Funch has been a bust.

That I can live with it’s mostly the Grigson part I disagreed with.  He made several moves that set this team back for years.  This hurt this year and that’s it.  All GMs have moves like that.

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6 minutes ago, csmopar said:

No such designation anymore... that went away at the start of 2016...


It’s pretty much the same. The verbiage is different but the point still stands. They should have prob put him on season ending IR 

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1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

That I can live with it’s mostly the Grigson part I disagreed with.  He made several moves that set this team back for years.  This hurt this year and that’s it.  All GMs have moves like that.

I have a feeling that's the part that most posters here disagreed with, and I understand why.

 

Grigson to Colts fans is like Voldemort to Harry Potter.

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52 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:


It’s pretty much the same. The verbiage is different but the point still stands. They should have prob put him on season ending IR 

Technically, he still is. There is only one IR. 

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1 hour ago, WoolMagnet said:

Hmm.  You have me thinking now about Ebron’s contract.  If it was incentive based, it would explain a few things.

Nope, very different. In short, maybe Ebron loses $15.6K per game for the rest of the year depending on the IR/pay rules. Funch loses nothing, just won't hit his incentive.

 

Ebron

$6.25M guaranteed (2018 salary + 2018 roster bonus)

2018 Roster Bonus: $5M

2019 Roster Bonus: $1M (3/17/2019)

Per Game Active Bonus: $15,625 ($250,000)

LTBE Incentives: $250,000

 

Funchess

$7,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $10,000,000.

base salary of $3,000,000

roster bonus of $7,000,000,

1000 yard bonus of $3,000,000

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1 hour ago, csmopar said:

There is no such designation anymore. That went away 3 years ago. But yes, we could have made a move regardless.

A team is still allowed to return only two players from IR with the designate.

 

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23 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

A team is still allowed to return only two players from IR with the designate.

 

Correct but they do not designate those players anymore. Anyone on IR is eligible. In years passed, they had to designate that when placing players on IR. That went away. There is literally no designate at all. 

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4 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Correct but they do not designate those players anymore. Anyone on IR is eligible. In years passed, they had to designate that when placing players on IR. That went away. There is literally no designate at all. 

Incorrect. They have to designate them at some point and it takes a slot.

You'll notice the designation

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2019_injuries.htm

https://nfltraderumors.co/colts-designate-wr-devin-funchess-to-return-from-injured-reserve/

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No long-term issues at all. It's football - players get hurt. I still think he could help. No reason not to give him another week if that's what it takes.

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10 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:

He isn’t even practicing with a red jersey.

Why rush back? To raise your stock as a WR by averaging 1.5 to 2.5 catches a game, less than 30 ypg, and block downfield on runs 65 Percent of your snaps?  Color me surprised our injured offensive  skill players aren't chomping at the bit to get back out there.... Ty isn't even pushing it.... Last year he played, hell or high water.... This year?  At wr? Why bother is what his, and their actions as a whole say...

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6 hours ago, EastStreet said:

Nope, very different. In short, maybe Ebron loses $15.6K per game for the rest of the year depending on the IR/pay rules. Funch loses nothing, just won't hit his incentive.

 

Ebron

$6.25M guaranteed (2018 salary + 2018 roster bonus)

2018 Roster Bonus: $5M

2019 Roster Bonus: $1M (3/17/2019)

Per Game Active Bonus: $15,625 ($250,000)

LTBE Incentives: $250,000

 

Funchess

$7,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $10,000,000.

base salary of $3,000,000

roster bonus of $7,000,000,

1000 yard bonus of $3,000,000

 

I don't know what is...but I am glad to see the Colts being a true equal opportunity employer ; )

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27 minutes ago, shastamasta said:

 

I don't know what is...but I am glad to see the Colts being a true equal opportunity employer ; )

LTBE likely to be earned (Ebron's per game)

NLTBE not likely to be earned (probably Funch's 1000 yard 3M)

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18 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

Nonsense.   He is hurt.   No one can predict injuries

Exactly my sentiments.  

  

Injuries happen. Can't predict that.

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18 hours ago, Pacergeek said:

You know your offense is struggling when you are counting on Devin Funchess to give you a spark. 

My thoughts exactly 

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He probably just doesn't want to come back and run short crossing routes across the middle any more.

Brissett does nothing to make any FA WRs want to come to Indy.

 

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On 11/27/2019 at 1:24 PM, colt18 said:

I think he goes on IR

 

 

effectively making him a free agent bust for us

Yep

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After today's Colt loss will determine whether or not they'll activate DF to the active list....He'll just have to rehab until next season if they decide to keep him on the roster.

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I’m going to disagree with most here and say signing Funchess wasn’t a bust. There is no conceivable way for literally anyone to predict injuries, unless they’re Nostradamus or something. The plate in his collarbone went bad, and so he’ll probably have to have surgery again. It’s just a horrible break for the Colts and for Funchess. It’s not like a draft pick that never plays well (cough Quincy Wilson cough)

If there is one positive to this, it’s that if Ballard wants to resign Funchess, it’ll be a heck of a lot cheaper than last time. Funchess will probably be asking for chump change next year when you consider his talent level. I’d personally like us to take a shot at him again.

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Time to bring up Chad Williams from p.s and see if change of environment helps him realize some of the potential he had when he came out as a 3rd round draft pick in 2017. Has the size , speed,hands etc...played with bad qbs in Arizona. Dulin has done nothing since he was brought up. 

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