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I find Jonathan Williams' vision better than that of Jordan Wilkins.

 

For a 2nd string between-the-tackles back, I feel Jonathan Williams is the guy we need to ride. Great job by the coaches but I found his performance more exciting than the "meh" stuff we typically get with Jordan Wilkins. Granted it is just one game but I found his vision good in pre-season too before he got banged up. He showed me something today.

 

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He hits the hold fast and breaks tackles. Rarely went down on first contact. I like the downhill style. Hopefully he can stay healthy 

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Good change of pace for when we get Mack healthy.  Bringing in a RB who runs in a completely different style can catch opposing defenses off guard and create opportunities.  Glad we have him.

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With the very talented RB class in the 2020 draft, I still would like Ballard to add one more guy to that backfield. Mack is a good RB, but he can't seem to stay fully healthy, and I still question whether he is our workhorse RB. 

 

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2 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

With the very talented RB class in the 2020 draft, I still would like Ballard to add one more guy to that backfield. Mack is a good RB, but he can't seem to stay fully healthy, and I still question whether he is our workhorse RB. 

 

With a stable of Mack, Williams, Wilkins and Hines in whatever order, we're actually really good for RB.  if Williams can settle in as that #1b back  we are actually in really good shape

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13 carries 116 yards with an 8.9 yard average, yeah the kid looked really good today.

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He looked great but this was what the fourth time the Jags have given up over 200 yards on the ground this season and the line was highly motived today.  I am not taking anything from Williams because he got his chance and took advantage of it.  He might very well be the starter Thursday so I hope this wasn’t just a one hit wonder against a really bad run defense.  Still we should be thrilled with the whole running game performance today.

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I hope I'm not the only one that finds having Jordan Wilkins and Jonathan Williams who both basically have the same job a little confusing.

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7 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

I hope I'm not the only one that finds having Jordan Wilkins and Jonathan Williams who both basically have the same job a little confusing.

Well right now, they may be all we have if Mack is out

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Dude should be fresh. He and Wilkins are pretty well the same. They dont dilly dally. Both plant a foot and go. Dont expect many negative runs. Think we ll miss Mack more than some think, but feel good about the rb room.

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Wooooo Pig Soooooiiiiieeeee. When him and Alex got drafted I figured jwill would have a better career. Got off track and troubled in buffalo. Glad he’s getting a second chance here with our colts. 

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1 hour ago, Imgrandojji said:

I hope I'm not the only one that finds having Jordan Wilkins and Jonathan Williams who both basically have the same job a little confusing.

Confusing?

 

Sorry, you have me confused!  What’s so confusing? 

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He did great.

But:

It was against a Jags poor rush defense.  

It was second half with the defense tired.  

 

That said, he has earned some carries each game.  

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1 hour ago, Mr.Debonair said:

He hits the hold fast and breaks tackles. Rarely went down on first contact. I like the downhill style. Hopefully he can stay healthy 

Wilkins goes down on first contact quite a bit.

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2 hours ago, Mr.Debonair said:

He hits the hold fast and breaks tackles. Rarely went down on first contact. I like the downhill style

This^^^^^. That kid broke a lot of tackles today

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I been speaking on J Will since the first day we signed him and even before that. I wanted him when Pagano was here.

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I also liked how he kept staying in bounds towards the end of the game.  That's the finer details in the game that is nice to see.

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Jordan Wilkins is averaging 6.1 yards per attempt.

 

Lamar Jackson is leading the league at 6.6 yards per attempt.

 

Wilkins is an absolute stud.  I don't understand why you are underwhelmed with his performance, but I agree that Williams looked good today. 

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Reich said that long run by Williams was designed for Hines and Williams had never run that play before. Wow.

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2 hours ago, krunk said:

I been speaking on J Will since the first day we signed him and even before that. I wanted him when Pagano was here.

 

I was kind of hoping the Colts would draft him when he came out of Arkansas myself.

Now let's hope he stays healthy, looks like they are going to need to lean on him for a few games.

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2 hours ago, krunk said:

I been speaking on J Will since the first day we signed him and even before that. I wanted him when Pagano was here.

Good on you brother. :thmup:

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Williams ran excellent today. The ends of a couple of his runs were a little weird though....like, keep running dude don't just fall down lol. 

 

I think Williams is light years better than Hines in between the tackles. I loved seeing him and Hines out there at the same time and using Hines as more of a WR in motion. They need to do more of that and get Hines in space where he excels. 

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10 hours ago, Myles said:

He did great.

But:

It was against a Jags poor rush defense.  

It was second half with the defense tired.  

 

That said, he has earned some carries each game.  

 

This, he earned himself some future carries but let's not get too carried away.  The OL was plowing over the Jags all game.  Easy to look good when you are 5+ yards down the field before you get touched.  

 

But he will see some action anyways.  Mack's hand is broke, he's not going to be playing on Thursday.  

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10 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Wilkins goes down on first contact quite a bit.


I am waiting for your first post that is...
 

1) not dour as hell

 

2) actually correct. 
 

 

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8 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jordan Wilkins is averaging 6.1 yards per attempt.

 

Lamar Jackson is leading the league at 6.6 yards per attempt.

 

Wilkins is an absolute stud.  I don't understand why you are underwhelmed with his performance, but I agree that Williams looked good today. 

I like what we always get out of Wilkins but calling him a stud is pretty far from correct at this point. I’m not sure why Wilkins never gets more carries than he has, he produces when in for the most part. It’s accurate that he has a pretty high avg for his carries and I’d like to see a few games with 10-15 touches before I go calling him a stud as opposed to he is a producer when given the chance. Elliott is a stud, Mack has been considered a stud and that Eckard out in chargers land has been a stud because they’ve all carried the team for more than a few carries a game. Let’s not use the term too loosely or it loses its meaning. 

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The problem with Wilkins is that he has had turnover problems. Not so much this year but it for sure was an issue last year.

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8 hours ago, LockeDown said:

Reich said that long run by Williams was designed for Hines and Williams had never run that play before. Wow.

Did they say why Williams got the carry of it was designed for Hines and Williams had never ran it before? Was it a game flow thing or misses player switch? 

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Just now, Restored said:

The problem with Wilkins is that he has had turnover problems. Not so much this year but it for sure was an issue last year.

If he hasn’t had anything this year, and we say Williams has “earned” carries, then the same would be true of Wilkins I would think. We have played enough games to say ok, here is the added carries, go do something with them now. Hopefully we have a healthy Wilkins, Williams and Hines Thursday and the oline pops holes Oppenheimer equally as big in the Texans defense. If so, all 3 should play well and our run game should produce tons of first downs and lesson the need to run patterns downfield so often. Save the tape views of our patterns for the playoffs :applause:

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3 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

Did they say why Williams got the carry of it was designed for Hines and Williams had never ran it before? Was it a game flow thing or misses player switch? 

He dialed the play up but for some reason he saw that Williams was on the field..I don’t know why the mixup...so he said Williams has never run the play before. Always been Hines in practice. So he thought it was funny that he breaks a long one on it.

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8 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jordan Wilkins is averaging 6.1 yards per attempt.

 

Lamar Jackson is leading the league at 6.6 yards per attempt.

 

Wilkins is an absolute stud.  I don't understand why you are underwhelmed with his performance, but I agree that Williams looked good today. 

I agree.  Wilkins ran for 5.6 YPC last year and 6.1 YPC this season.  Granted it is only 87 carries, but it at least shows great promise.

Williams looked great yesterday and I think if Wilkins is back, those 2 can power through behind our line.  

 

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I view Wilkins as a tweener. He’s not a bruising back or a speedster. He has great vision and is decisive. I think he needs to develop his strength and he will be a great back. Right now he is a great backup that I want to succeed .

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1 hour ago, jskinnz said:


I am waiting for your first post that is...
 

1) not dour as hell

 

2) actually correct. 
 

 

Im serious I never seen him break more than 1 or two tackles since he has been here Williams is the better back plain and simple.

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10 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jordan Wilkins is averaging 6.1 yards per attempt.

 

Lamar Jackson is leading the league at 6.6 yards per attempt.

 

Wilkins is an absolute stud.  I don't understand why you are underwhelmed with his performance, but I agree that Williams looked good today. 

That guy is far from a stud take out the 55 yard run against the titans and he is below average.

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6 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Im serious I never seen him break more than 1 or two tackles since he has been here Williams is the better back plain and simple.

Not really.   Running like he does without needing to break many tackles tells me he has superior vision to find the holes.  

 

4 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

That guy is far from a stud take out the 55 yard run against the titans and he is below average.

You can't hold that against him.   He'd still be over 4 yards a carry without that run.   Williams day would be only 68 yards if you removed his 48 yard run.   But that is not fair to him either.  

Neither has much to go on in their careers.  

Williams - 45/211 4.7 YPC

Wilkins - 87/501 5.8 YPC

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4 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

Williams ran excellent today. The ends of a couple of his runs were a little weird though....like, keep running dude don't just fall down lol. 

No argument here, just to clarify only.....he dropped at the end of those runs to stay in bounds and keep the clock running.

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I am not sure if Wilkins had been healthy he would of had the same success as Williams. Wilkins breaks a long one once in awhile but I don’t think he could carry the load like Williams did yesterday.  

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11 hours ago, zibby43 said:

Jordan Wilkins is averaging 6.1 yards per attempt.

 

Lamar Jackson is leading the league at 6.6 yards per attempt.

 

Wilkins is an absolute stud.  I don't understand why you are underwhelmed with his performance, but I agree that Williams looked good today. 

Wilkins isn't bad, but we've been looking for him to emerge as a change of pace back to allow Reich to have the confidence not to put all the rushing burden on Mack, and that kind of just never quite happened.  Williams came in in 1 game and suddenly was that guy. 

 

it says something when Reich would rather give rushing carries to a depth RB and even to Chester Rogers than to Wilkins.  I dunno what but there's something going on there.

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8 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

Wilkins isn't bad, but we've been looking for him to emerge as a change of pace back to allow Reich to have the confidence not to put all the rushing burden on Mack, and that kind of just never quite happened.  Williams came in in 1 game and suddenly was that guy. 

 

it says something when Reich would rather give rushing carries to a depth RB and even to Chester Rogers than to Wilkins.  I dunno what but there's something going on there.

As far as I know Wilkins was hurt, but I think they've been waiting on the chance to break J Will in though. 

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