Colts to work out FA kickers today

[csmopar 8,614]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Vinny should of been gone after the Steelers game. 

by your own words, so should you. 

[luv_pony_express 292]

2 hours ago, Barry Sears said:

Mixed emotions on this, but they at least need to see who's available.  I know some of the misses haven't all been AV's fault, but he has missed kicks that an NFL level kicker should miss.

 

He may be the GOAT, but he's not the greatest of right now.  We have 3 big divisional games coming up and can't afford to lose any of them due to missed extra points and makeable FG's

 

There’s no reason for mixed emotions.  I mean, I get being sad about it being (past) Vinny’s time to go.  But don’t let that convince you that it isn’t (past) his time to go.

 

Sometimes doing the right thing feels wrong.  It’s still the right thing.

[John Waylon 3,317]

12 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:

There is the solution, when the Colts are within FG range they need to keep getting delay of game penalties until it's a 50+ yard FG and then send AV out.

 

And you guys want a new kicker, when the solution is that easy. 

 

Now that’s using your noodle. 

[Mr.Debonair 2,202]

6 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Eh. We’ve done this once already. 
 

I don’t expect a move. Even if Ballard and Reich wanted to make one I’m not so sure Irsay would just let them throw out a player who has meant to the game and us what Adam has. 
 

It’s easy to talk all that business, but when it comes time to pull the trigger it’s a different story, especially in the middle of the season like this. 

 

Just silly. 

[John Waylon 3,317]

3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Just put him IR instead of just cutting him.

Dirty pool. If he still wants to kick beyond his stay here he should by all means be allowed to. IR’ing him to get him off the field is the same as cutting him, just with a dirtbag twist. 
 

I guarantee you Belichick is ready to make a call as soon as he hears any news. 

[Chloe6124 5,658]

Just now, John Waylon said:

Dirty pool. If he still wants to kick beyond his stay here he should by all means be allowed to. IR’ing him to get him off the field is the same as cutting him, just with a dirtbag twist. 
 

I guarantee you Belichick is ready to make a call as soon as he hears any news. 

Nobody is going to sign him when he is last in the league.

[csmopar 8,614]

11 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Just put him IR instead of just cutting him.

he has to have an actual injury diagnosed by a medical professional...

[WoolMagnet 4,022]

2 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

Right. If Sanchez ends up our place kicker, we would have another free roster spot.

Kinda tuff holding the ball while you kick tho.

[John Waylon 3,317]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:

 

Just silly. 

Silly? That’s the whole human part of it. Do you realize he’s been here now for some 15 years? He’s been here longer than almost anyone else in this organization. He’s been nothing short of an upstanding member of this team and this community. 
 

You don’t have the damn personal connection to him that exists within this organization. And if you did you wouldn’t be near as willing to just toss him aside like some guy off the street. You just cut bait on your longtime friends when they can’t benefit you any more?

 

Theres a whole other side to this issue that runs a lot deeper than “what have you done for me lately?”

6 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Nobody is going to sign him when he is last in the league.

I guarantee you Belichick is ready to make the call as soon as he hears any news. 

[will426 961]

i know he’s missing kicks and all but i feel like everyone’s blaming strictly Him..i blame snapper holder and kicker but everyone’s ignoring the two who touch the ball before Vinny and even Patty Mac states there’s issues all around between those 3 and how him overton and vinny never had those issues which we all know to be true how often were our kicking game this atrocious under those 3 i recall Never

[Mr.Debonair 2,202]

Just now, John Waylon said:

Silly? That’s the whole human part of it. Do you realize he’s been here now for some 15 years? He’s been here longer than almost anyone else in this organization. He’s been nothing short of an upstanding member of this team and this community. 
 

You don’t have the damn personal connection to him that exists within this organization. And if you did you wouldn’t be near as willing to just toss him aside like some guy off the street. You just cut bait on your longtime friends when they can’t benefit you any more?

 

Theres a whole other side to this issue that runs a lot deeper than “what have you done for me lately?”

Their job is to win games. Fans go to those games to watch their team do what it takes to win. Fans pay for tickets because in belief that the team is putting winning first, not relationships. 

[John Waylon 3,317]

Just now, will426 said:

i know he’s missing kicks and all but i feel like everyone’s blaming strictly Him..i blame snapper holder and kicker but everyone’s ignoring the two who touch the ball before Vinny and even Patty Mac states there’s issues all around between those 3 and how him overton and vinny never had those issues which we all know to be true how often were our kicking game this atrocious under those 3 i recall Never

I did make it a point last week that some of the snaps have not been quite as crisp as they should be, but that was totally washed away in the rush to blame. It’s a real lonely road to walk. 

[Superman 35,676]

40 minutes ago, onebad150 said:

If AV had any class, and to take the pressure off Ballard and the coaching staff. he would claim to have a season ending knee injury.

He is hurting the team, he has lost the  locker room he has nothing to prove, so I believe him to be selfish. I know our Coach wants to a players coach ,,,, but sometimes he has to step up and do the right thing.

Who was that kicker That Pittsburg picked up at the end of the year who came in and made 3 Fg and has never missed a PAT

 

This is a bad post.

[John Waylon 3,317]

Just now, Mr.Debonair said:

Their job is to win games. Fans go to those games to watch their team do what it takes to win. Fans pay for tickets because in belief that the team is putting winning first, not relationships. 

Sorry. That is 100% not the mentality on 56th street. 
 

Guaranteed. 

[csmopar 8,614]

2 minutes ago, will426 said:

i know he’s missing kicks and all but i feel like everyone’s blaming strictly Him..i blame snapper holder and kicker but everyone’s ignoring the two who touch the ball before Vinny and even Patty Mac states there’s issues all around between those 3 and how him overton and vinny never had those issues which we all know to be true how often were our kicking game this atrocious under those 3 i recall Never

agreed

[Chloe6124 5,658]

10 minutes ago, csmopar said:

he has to have an actual injury diagnosed by a medical professional...

Well Vinny has basically admitted he is not 100%.

[GoColts8818 9,224]

2 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:

The only reason some guys aren’t at 70% is that they were cut or put on IR before they could fall below that mark

Which is what the Colts should be doing with Adam IF someone better is out there.

[csmopar 8,614]

Just now, John Waylon said:

Sorry. That is 100% not the mentality on 56th street. 
 

Guaranteed. 

source?

 

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

Well Vinny has basically admitted he is not 100%.

If he had any injury, it'd have to be on the injury report...

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

Which is what the Colts should be doing with Adam IF someone better is out there.

The guys that might are in the CFL or have already signed deals with XFL teams

[holeymoley99 78]

Guys who have signed with XFL clubs are allowed to sign NFL contracts at any time...

[GoColts8818 9,224]

15 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

The guys that might are in the CFL or have already signed deals with XFL teams

And you know this how?  
 

I will admit I don’t know but I am all for finding out which is what the Colts seem to be doing.  They aren’t working out four kickers just for fun.  
 

Is one of them better than Adam?  I have no idea but I trust Ballard to figure that out whichever way he goes.

[1959Colts 2,201]

30 minutes ago, WoolMagnet said:

Kinda tuff holding the ball while you kick tho.

I think Hoyer can hold?

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

And you know this how?  
 

I will admit I don’t know but I am all for finding out which is what the Colts seem to be doing.  They aren’t working out four kickers just for fun.  
 

Is one of them better than Adam?  I have no idea but I trust Ballard to figure that out whichever way he goes.

I know that because they are getting paid to play football and not substitute teaching, selling insurance or what ever

 

 I never said anything about not trusting Ballard

 

    If they are still out they have some kind of flaw

[richard pallo 2,169]

1 hour ago, Mr.Debonair said:

He spent the preseason with the Colts. Hedlund set the national high school record with 25 field goals in a season and had a streak of 157 consecutive PATs, earning him Parade All-American honors. But he struggled at Arkansas, making 60% of his field goals as a freshman, failing to earn the starting position the next two seasons and transferring to North Texas. He regained his touch with the Mean Green, making 19-of-22 field goals, and signing with the Colts. 

"It's an unbelievable opportunity," Hedlund said of playing for the Colts in the preseason. "Coming in as a rookie and being able to learn from the greatest ever, it's just absolutely incredible."

 

Hedlund was 3-of-3 inside 39 yards in the preseason but 3-of-5 from 40-plus yards and did not make the team.

I think he might now.

[Shepman 238]

Up until the last miss that kid from 49s looked good.  He should be released soon perhaps brimg him in for a tryout at that point.

[GoColts8818 9,224]

11 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

I know that because they are getting paid to play football and not substitute teaching, selling insurance or what ever

 

 I never said anything about not trusting Ballard

 

    If they are still out they have some kind of flaw

Which I have said as well.  The question is it as big of a flaw as Adam has right now.  Unless you are there watching them kick like Ballard is and studying film like Ballard has you don’t know.  
 

my point about Ballard was to say I don’t know if the kids out there are better right now or not.  So I am willing to trust Ballard with whatever call he makes.  I didn’t say anything about you trusting Ballard or not.

 

its also not unheard of to bring a kicker in in the middle of the season who hasn’t been kicking in the NFL that season.  Teams that have kicker issues do that all the time so just because someone hasn’t been kicking in the NFL this season doesn’t mean they can’t play.  
 

again, the question that matters and that no one here knows is is what’s available better than what Adam has been doing this season?

[Chloe6124 5,658]

According to sources Hedlund was not one of the kickers brought in today.

[Mr.Debonair 2,202]

 

 

3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

According to sources Hedlund was not one of the kickers brought in today.

 

You might be right. I misread the tweet 

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

24 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

According to sources Hedlund was not one of the kickers brought in today.

What 4 were brought in then

[John Waylon 3,317]

53 minutes ago, csmopar said:

source?

Simple logic and reason. 
 

If they were going to make a move they would have done it by now. 
 

Irsay is an emotional and sentimental owner. He thrives on rewarding those who have been good to him. He’s not the kind to turn his back on those he loves. 
 

You can’t tell me Vinny has been here all these years and hasn’t developed a close relationship with Jim. Even if they aren’t fishing buds they have their own close personal relationship, however it may be. Jim isn’t going to just dump one of the top 5 of all time most important players to his franchise in the middle of a season. He’s going to let him finish and make the move in the spring when it feels more appropriate. 
 

Chuck Pagano finished out his campaign before being shown the door despite the fact that everyone saw it coming. He could have sent a message to the players or whoever by ushering him out of town mid-season but he didn’t. Why?

 

Same deal, different faces. 

[Chloe6124 5,658]

What is sad they are making it worse on AV. He about broke down and cried after the game Sunday when asked about the missed kick.  He also needs to do the right thing and think of the team and retire.

[Shafty138 1,469]

1 hour ago, John Waylon said:

Sorry. That is 100% not the mentality on 56th street. 
 

Guaranteed. 

Is it comfortable in Adam's jockstrap?  Good lord man, it's getting uncomfortable reading the blind fanboying.....

[1959Colts 2,201]

 

[HectorRoberts 639]

If we cut vinny he’s just going to get picked up by New England and tear it up all year

[John Waylon 3,317]

6 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

Is it comfortable in Adam's jockstrap?  Good lord man, it's getting uncomfortable reading the blind fanboying.....

Nope. No blind fanboying. He’s sucked a fat one this season. Absolutely should have hung it up after last season. And god forbid he try to play another for anyone else next season and look even worse than he has this one. 
 

But hey, little pro tip for you:
 

This ain’t madden. This is the real world. 
 

Your experience as a fan is just that: as a fan. You’ve watched the guy for less than an hour a year sitting on your couch with greasy hands and a bag of chips in your lap. Of course you don’t understand the personal side of it. 
 

You gonna choke your 15 year old dog to death in front of the kids because he can’t hold it anymore and pisses on the rug Every day?

 

No. You’re not. 
 

Just like Irsay isn’t going to dump on one of the biggest players not just in franchise history, but league history in a less than respectful way. 

[WoolMagnet 4,022]

How bout we bring in Tony Danza to hold for that horse.

He never missed!

[throwing BBZ 2,405]

36 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Simple logic and reason. 
 

If they were going to make a move they would have done it by now. 
 

Irsay is an emotional and sentimental owner. He thrives on rewarding those who have been good to him. He’s not the kind to turn his back on those he loves. 
 

You can’t tell me Vinny has been here all these years and hasn’t developed a close relationship with Jim. Even if they aren’t fishing buds they have their own close personal relationship, however it may be. Jim isn’t going to just dump one of the top 5 of all time most important players to his franchise in the middle of a season. He’s going to let him finish and make the move in the spring when it feels more appropriate. 
 

Chuck Pagano finished out his campaign before being shown the door despite the fact that everyone saw it coming. He could have sent a message to the players or whoever by ushering him out of town mid-season but he didn’t. Why?

 

Same deal, different faces. 

 

 Irsay is likely in as much pain about this as Vinny is.
He would have wanted him to go out on a high note. Unfortunate for all.

[jameszeigler834 1,568]

3 hours ago, Mr.Debonair said:

I think most people understand misses on FG's will happen. The misses on XP are the ones that are truly driving most insane

You also should never ever shank a 43 yard field goal by 30 yards.

[Chloe6124 5,658]

What this team doesn’t understand is by cutting him it might actually make these guys play harder realizing no ones job is safe. They can’t preach accountability by letting him keep his job.

[jameszeigler834 1,568]

22 minutes ago, HectorRoberts said:

If we cut vinny he’s just going to get picked up by New England and tear it up all year

No he isn't he is done.