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So we traded dts with Baltimore, and poor Hentges..... Did he know he was signing with the NFL team from Washington DC, not Washington state? Lol

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I agree.  At final cuts, i was hoping we would keep him.  I thought him and Doyle had similartraits too.  However, i think we all had a little "Caesar Rayford syndrome" with him.  I think TEs like him are out there every year.

  Im trying to think what waiver order Washington had, Im sure other teams were interested.  I thought he'd end up in NE.

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Didn’t realize it was Hentges that we waived for Taylor. Hm, well, there goes the potential Doyle replacement. Really though, I’m thinking we bring back Doyle on a friendly contract either way. Really liked Hentges though, too bad.

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2 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Didn’t realize it was Hentges that we waived for Taylor. Hm, well, there goes the potential Doyle replacement. Really though, I’m thinking we bring back Doyle on a friendly contract either way. Really liked Hentges though, too bad.

I could give two craps over Ward, Hentges however I believe will become just that lunch pail, workhorse guy. Don’t imagine Washington will provide that so maybe we can get him back but imho, Hentges could be a huge loss for this team down the line. He was a better Doyle clone and I’d rather see two Doyle’s than MAC. 

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With the injuries, i guess 4 TEs was a luxury we couldnt afford.

MAC has showed he can be a nice weapon and he blocks pretty well.  I liked Hale (will the small sample size), but i understand the move, and i think his "type" arent that difficult to find.

In future, we nay wish we had him, but i really dont see his addition or subtraction affecting this team all that much. 4 TEs was a luxury Ballard did because he liked him and knew he wouldnt last on the PS.  Taylor was brought in because of injuries and i'd say it was a great move.  We didnt miss Hale in the game, but one could argue we may have needed Taylor to pull off the win.  He was a piece of an overall gameplan that was necessary i think.

And hey, theres always Ross Travis who somecaround here had above Hale. (Or was he injured? I lose track)

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4 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:

With the injuries, i guess 4 TEs was a luxury we couldnt afford.

 

 

With the way Colts WR's (not named TY) have been playing, they could use all the help at TE they could get. 

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11 hours ago, Shafty138 said:

So we traded dts with Baltimore, and poor Hentges..... Did he know he was signing with the NFL team from Washington DC, not Washington state? Lol

 
The Colts needed a run stuffing DT and the Ravens needed a DT that may be able to get some pressure in the QB up the middle. I like your 3-2 better than our 3-2. We are already picking up guys off the scrap heap. 

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It is a sign of an improving Colts roster when other teams are picking up waived Colts players . Sorry to see both go.....i was pulling for Hentges to get in a real game for the Colts. I think he could have shown something.

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Neither one is a significant loss. Let’s not overrate these guys. Especially Hentges. Our organization is very good a developing TEs. 

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MO has been a great blocker and reliable pass catcher. Hale wasn’t even active so I don’t think it was a big loss. 

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11 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

It was just plain dumb to cut Hentges

 

yeah people said the same thing about:

 

Caesar Rayford

John Chick

Roy Hall

D'arick Rogers

Duron Carter

Chad Kelly

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6 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

 

With the way Colts WR's (not named TY) have been playing, they could use all the help at TE they could get. 

The old 4 TE set

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14 hours ago, ColtsAC said:

It is a sign of an improving Colts roster when other teams are picking up waived Colts players . Sorry to see both go.....i was pulling for Hentges to get in a real game for the Colts. I think he could have shown something.


it definitely is. When teams are pulling depth off your roster, it means you are drafting well. The Ravens have had talent picked apart for years , like a Maryland blue crab, and now other teams are picking up Colt cast offs. 
It stinks losing some of these players, but you hope leadership is retaining the top guys. Still, there are always some good bargain basement guys in the scrap heap , who are late bloomers , or who got locked out by depth. 

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1 hour ago, The Old Crow said:


it definitely is. When teams are pulling depth off your roster, it means you are drafting well. The Ravens have had talent picked apart for years , like a Maryland blue crab, and now other teams are picking up Colt cast offs. 
It stinks losing some of these players, but you hope leadership is retaining the top guys. Still, there are always some good bargain basement guys in the scrap heap , who are late bloomers , or who got locked out by depth. 

On 10/7/2019 at 8:18 PM, Fisticuffs111 said:

Didn’t realize it was Hentges that we waived for Taylor. Hm, well, there goes the potential Doyle replacement. Really though, I’m thinking we bring back Doyle on a friendly contract either way. Really liked Hentges though, too bad.

 

Ballard said after the draft something like "You know you're doing good when guys you have to cut are being picked up and playing on other teams."  I think he said ideally, you'd see 10 guys you had to cut being picked up by other teams -- just goes to show he is doing really well in just a few years here, that he's bringing in enough depth that when we have to cut players they wind up playing on other teams on Sunday.  

 

On 10/7/2019 at 9:10 PM, Shafty138 said:

I think they keep Doyle, and MA-C takes over for Ebron next yr....

 

Ebron seems to have become a leader of this team.  He's had a few bad drops this year, but I think he'll come around.  He was a pro-bowler last year.  Unless his drops continue, I sort of think he's a guy the Colts really like and would be a bit shocked if we don't at least offer him a competitive contract.

 

On 10/7/2019 at 10:37 PM, 1959Colts said:

It was just plain dumb to cut Hentges

 

With injuries in the secondary building up, we needed to bring up Shak Taylor.  Unfortunately, Hentges was probably the most expendable player on our 53 man roster, especially considering that we have 2 very good TEs (Doyle and Ebron) and another solid TE (M-AC -- who probably has more upside than Hentges as he can block and is a much better receiving threat).

 

I would've liked to see Hengtes make it here, but I don't think it was 'dumb' to cut him... we had to cut someone and TE is one our of deepest positions and Hentges, unless injury to the aforementioned 3 TEs, likely wouldn't have played much of a role this year anyway.  Guys like him are not very hard to come by... he went undrafted for a reason... he is a good blocking TE and maybe could be a good short yardage type TE, but he's too slow to really be a threat as a receiver and probably too slow to really contribute on special teams.

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On 10/8/2019 at 12:27 AM, Jdubu said:

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Anyone know anything about the new TE on the PS?

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Washington's trying to get their 2nd back... haha Think they are pulling a fast one on us.

 

I liked hengtes but he wasn't playing for us, he was more a luxury spot on the active roster... and this team is too banged up for that right now. 

 

Ballard has continued to say you know you are getting there when other teams are picking up the ones you are releasing, and that is happening consistently now. Our roster is getting there. It's just young, and that takes time. But there is a plethora of talent with sky high potential across the depth chart here. 

 

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6 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:

Anyone know anything about the new TE on the PS?

https://www.colts.com/news/ian-bunting-roster-move-practice-squad

 

6-7, 255 pounds, spent time on the New York Jets’ practice squad earlier this season. He participated in the Chicago Bears’ 2019 offseason program and training camp before being waived during final cuts on August 31. Bunting originally signed with the Bears as an undrafted free agent on May 2, 2019.

Collegiately, Bunting played in 13 games (four starts) at California in 2018 as a graduate transfer and compiled 18 receptions for 195 yards. Prior to California, he spent four seasons at Michigan (2014-17). Bunting appeared in 34 games (eight starts) with the Wolverines and caught 10 passes for 118 yards. He was a three-time Academic All-Big Ten honoree (2015-17).

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I absolutely hated to see us part with Hentges. I think he will become someone’s new Doyle. 

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On 10/8/2019 at 2:36 AM, WoolMagnet said:

With the injuries, i guess 4 TEs was a luxury we couldnt afford.

MAC has showed he can be a nice weapon and he blocks pretty well.  I liked Hale (will the small sample size), but i understand the move, and i think his "type" arent that difficult to find.

In future, we nay wish we had him, but i really dont see his addition or subtraction affecting this team all that much. 4 TEs was a luxury Ballard did because he liked him and knew he wouldnt last on the PS.  Taylor was brought in because of injuries and i'd say it was a great move.  We didnt miss Hale in the game, but one could argue we may have needed Taylor to pull off the win.  He was a piece of an overall gameplan that was necessary i think.

And hey, theres always Ross Travis who somecaround here had above Hale. (Or was he injured? I lose track)

Travis was cut when we kept Hentges. And I believe someone else signed him.

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Hate to see Hentges go, but we're fine unless we have an injury at TE.

 

Not sure if anyone posted, but we also signed Marcus Johnson back to the PS earlier as well.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if we saw more movement (PS and AR) with DT and DE.

 

Here's the transactions so far this month.

 

10/08 Ian Bunting (TE) signed to the practice squad

 

10/05  Shakial Taylor (CB) elevated to the active roster from the practice squad; Hale Hentges (TE) waived

 

10/01 Trevon Coley (DT) signed to active roster from Baltimore Ravens' practice squad; Jihad Ward (DT) waived

 

10/01 Marcus Johnson (WR) signed to the practice squad; Brian Price (DT) released from the practice squad

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Both of those guys were ok but were back ups to our back ups. They probably weren’t going to play here and glad they have a chance with a different team. Not that big of a loss and will be replaced easily enough. 

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On 10/8/2019 at 10:21 PM, CurBeatElite said:

I would've liked to see Hengtes make it here, but I don't think it was 'dumb' to cut him... we had to cut someone and TE is one our of deepest positions and Hentges, unless injury to the aforementioned 3 TEs, likely wouldn't have played much of a role this year anyway.  Guys like him are not very hard to come by... he went undrafted for a reason... he is a good blocking TE and maybe could be a good short yardage type TE, but he's too slow to really be a threat as a receiver and probably too slow to really contribute on special teams.

Jack Doyle went undrafted too. As you know, often, good players go undrafted. The draft is not a perfect system. Far from it.

 

Many of us saw the similarities between Hentges and Doyle (as I'm sure you did too, not meaning to belittle you at all). In fact, so did Doyle.

 

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/17/indianapolis-colts-jack-doyle-hale-hentges-better-younger-version/

 

Lastly, Doyle was the fourth TE on the roster in 2013, behind Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, and Dominique Jones. He was given time and an opportunity to prove his worth. Similarly, I wish Hentges was given the same amount of time and opportunity, but I understand that his situation is different. We needed to make room for Taylor, and the roster is now much deeper and harder to break into.

 

May of the points that you bring up in opposition to keeping Hentges apply directly to Doyle, and that's why he's such a success story. He beat the odds, simply because he was good enough, but also given a chance to prove himself here.

 

What happens with Hentges elsewhere is now irrelevant. He can go on to be a stud or a dud, but that does not mean he would've been either of those things here had he been given a chance to develop as a Colt. 

 

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44 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

Jack Doyle went undrafted too. As you know, often, good players go undrafted. The draft is not a perfect system. Far from it.

 

Many of us saw the similarities between Hentges and Doyle (as I'm sure you did too, not meaning to belittle you at all). In fact, so did Doyle.

 

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/17/indianapolis-colts-jack-doyle-hale-hentges-better-younger-version/

 

Lastly, Doyle was the fourth TE on the roster in 2013, behind Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, and Dominique Jones. He was given time and an opportunity to prove his worth. Similarly, I wish Hentges was given the same amount of time and opportunity, but I understand that his situation is different. We needed to make room for Taylor, and the roster is now much deeper and harder to break into.

 

May of the points that you bring up in opposition to keeping Hentges apply directly to Doyle, and that's why he's such a success story. He beat the odds, simply because he was good enough, but also given a chance to prove himself here.

 

What happens with Hentges elsewhere is now irrelevant. He can go on to be a stud or a dud, but that does not mean he would've been either of those things here had he been given a chance to develop as a Colt. 

 

 

I was the first person on this forum to predict Hentges would be the undrafted guy to keep the streak alive of making this team.  I'm a fan of his.

 

I'm also a fan of Doyle's. 

 

Neither Hentges or Doyle are 'franchise' players.  Doyle is good, and he's got a cool 'hometown' story behind him.  His best trait (aside from being injured last year) is reliability.  

 

This isn't a knock on him, or Hentges, but without either one of those guys, this team doesn't skip a beat.  There are a lot of players on the team who we could lose and be in worse shape.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

I was the first person on this forum to predict Hentges would be the undrafted guy to keep the streak alive of making this team.  I'm a fan of his.

 

I'm also a fan of Doyle's. 

 

Neither Hentges or Doyle are 'franchise' players.  Doyle is good, and he's got a cool 'hometown' story behind him.  His best trait (aside from being injured last year) is reliability.  

 

This isn't a knock on him, or Hentges, but without either one of those guys, this team doesn't skip a beat.  There are a lot of players on the team who we could lose and be in worse shape.

 

 

I think Doyle's best quality is that he's a great blocker of large, athletic defenders and a good receiver. The Colts offense is less predictable to the defense when he is in the game as compared to a TE who is more of a receiving or blocking specialist. It's not so easy to find guys who excel at both. 

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Another very overrated player, who has 0 stats in the league, has yet to be even active for a week, not to mention undrafted.

 

Keeping a roster spot open for a 4th string, undersized TE is a luxury.

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11 minutes ago, rock8591 said:

Another very overrated player, who has 0 stats in the league, has yet to be even active for a week, not to mention undrafted.

 

Keeping a roster spot open for a 4th string, undersized TE is a luxury.

Your post doesn't make clear who you are referring to?

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I am fairly confident that if the coaches and front office felt that Hale would be the level of player Jack Doyle is after this season, there would be no way in hell he would have been exposed to the practice squad. 

 

He's got the gumption, but he ain't no Jack Freakin Doyle. However, I hope the kid reaches his full potential.

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13 hours ago, Four2itus said:

I am fairly confident that if the coaches and front office felt that Hale would be the level of player Jack Doyle is after this season, there would be no way in hell he would have been exposed to the practice squad. 

 

He's got the gumption, but he ain't no Jack Freakin Doyle. However, I hope the kid reaches his full potential.

I think you’re wrong but we may never know. Hentges is on the same career path as Doyle. Unrestricted guy with blocking traits and surprises with catching abilities. Doyle got the opportunity to show it maybe by necessity, Hentges has yet to be fortunate enough to fall into a role that shows he can do it in a game if called upon. Doyle wasn’t a name his first two years, I just think Hentges shows those exact same traits that Doyle did at his entry into the league. I’d love to see Hentges get plucked back to the team. In fact, I’d cut MAC for Hentges but I’m not running the show. MAC has done zip during his time, he is all potential with great size.  I don’t get the hype on that guy at all. 

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