Minkah Fitzpatrick

[lollygagger8]

Dolphins in straight tank mode right now 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

We already have a star at slot and most likely FS. So no. He would barely get no snaps.

[krunk]

They'll probably want a 1st rounder but I'd love to have him for one of those 2nd rounders we have and something else. 

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We already have a star at slot and most likely FS. So no. He would barely get no snaps.

He can play on the outside.  He's better than anything we have out there right now. 

[Myles]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

We already have a star at slot and most likely FS. So no. He would barely get no snaps.

He would start for us.   He can play CB or Safety and would be an improvement over what we have.   I like our DB's, but this is a great young player.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

They'll probably want a 1st rounder but I'd love to have him for one of those 2nd rounders we have and something else. 

He can play on the outside.  He's better than anything we have out there right now. 

We are grooming rock. 

[DaveA1102]

 

What are Miami even doing?

[krunk]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

We are grooming rock. 

That's only one guy.  Neither Desir or Wilson are the long term answer there. 

I like Rock and expect he'll be a really good player for us, but Minkah is better. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Wilson didn’t even get that many snaps Sunday. Who you going to take out of the lineup. You add you then have to subtract.

[DaveA1102]

5 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

Dolphins in straight tank mode right now 

 

At least other teams try and hide it when they tank! 

 

Imagine being a Dolphins season ticket holder this year!  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, krunk said:

That's only one guy.  Neither Desir or Wilson are the long term answer there. 

I doubt he would play corner.

[krunk]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

I doubt he would play corner.

Why?? It's his natural position

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

We just signed Moore and he is a star. Your not going to bring someone in to take snaps away from him. 

[krunk]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

We just signed Moore and he is a star. Your not going to bring someone in to take snaps away from him.

He would play on the outside bro. It's a trade so you move one or whatever amount of those guys off the team.   He wouldn't be replacing Kenny Moore, and even if he did you wouldn't see much drop off. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

We think rock is the future and your not going to bench Desir.

[krunk]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

We think rock is the future and your not going to bench Desir.

He's a better player than Desir.   Is Rock starting?  No he's playing in Sub Packages right now.

[richard pallo]

I think they would be receptive to getting a player who could replace him and a pick. He and Rock would be our future lock down corners.   They would probably love a young player like Wilson and a pick.   I would do our 1st and Wilson and they might be receptive to Kelly as part of the deal.  Their QB situation is really up in the air.  

[krunk]

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We think rock is the future and your not going to bench Desir.

You move Quincy off the team and you play Minkah and Desir on the outside.

Let rock continue to play in subpackages this year.  Desir is not the future, at some point he's going to be leaving here. 

[aaron11]

i dont see where he fits in.  they just invested in Desir, Moore and Ya sin at CB

 

we have Hooker at FS obviously.  i guess he could play SS, or just have 2 FS but they named Geathers team caption

[throwing BBZ]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

Why?? It's his natural position

 

 If my reading is correct, he graded extremely high at slot coverage, and just average in all other positions.
 Flores is using him as a hybrid, including lots of TE, slot coverage.
  His Momma reports he should be playing FS. I would think he has conveyed that to her.

  Perhaps he just wants out of this Miami situation, and would still be agreeable and worth it to continue being a hybrid. Ballard and his guys can figure that out.
A very interesting situation for sure.

[aaron11]

i guess he was seen as the top CB and Safety in that draft by some people

[krunk]

Just now, aaron11 said:

i dont see where he fits in.  they just invested in Desir, Moore and Ya sin at CB

 

we have Hooker at FS obviously.  i guess he could play SS, or just have 2 FS but they named Geathers team caption

Desir has a short term contract.  None of these guys we have are Deion Sanders.

They all can be moved, traded and what not to make room. 

[krunk]

4 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 If my reading is correct, he graded extremely high at slot coverage, and just average in all other positions.
 Flores is using him as a hybrid, including lots of TE, slot coverage.
  His Momma reports he should be playing FS. I would think he has conveyed that to her.

  Perhaps he just wants out of this Miami situation, and would still be agreeable and worth it to continue being a hybrid. Ballard and his guys can figure that out.
A very interesting situation for sure.

If he came on this team right now he wouldn't be a slot corner because of Kenny Moore. He ain't playing FS because of Hooker.  I could see us playing Fitzpatrick and Hooker on the backend against some passing sets but not full time.  In this scheme if we acquired him I think he would play on the outside.  He's got the type of size Ballard craves and he can cover man to man. 

[Devildog]

I'd give up a 2nd and Wilson to get him.

[PeterBowman]

this is tough for sure....I'd take him in a heartbeat, but at what price? Ballard won't get fleeced like Houston did with Tunsil. 

[krunk]

We'll see if Ballard does anything.  I wouldn't fault him if he did, but  knowing him he probably won't. He's got some guys like Rock developing and I think Marvell Tell at some point this year is going to show us he's a pretty good player. I like his skill set also with being able to play FS and CB with the 6'2" frame.  I wouldn't stop a move on a player like Minkah because of them but that's just me.  Ballard knows more than me obviously. 

[DaveA1102]

The more I look into this the more it makes sense.  No matter where he would play, excluding FS, I think he would be the best player in that position.  I would have no issues giving up one of our extra 2nd rounders, and maybe someone who is lost in our depth chart if required, like Chester Rogers since they got rid of Stills (poor Chester).

 

With the trust I have in the coaches and the way Reich focuses on them being "teachers" I think we could make him an elite player and it would cost us $6m over 3 years!!! 

 

A backfield of Moore, Desir, Wilson, Hooker, Minkah, Rock.......that is a quality backfield with more youth and athleticism than any other in the league that I can think of.  

 

However, there have been so many players that I wanted CB to go after and he doesn't seem to rate my opinion that highly on these matters! Lol

[richard pallo]

When he was drafted he was rated one of the three can't miss prospects.  The other two were Saquan and Big Q.  I think it's going to take a 1st Rd. pick and more.  My guess is Ballard is at least exploring a trade and I would think he would be open to our 1st pick as part of the deal.  Can you imagine having two of the three being Colts?  Ballard has to be tempted.  

[CaptainColt12]

53 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:

 

 

Worthy of consideration.

We already have the most expensive slot cb in the league, we don't need another. So I don't feel as though giving up maybe a 1st or second is worth having a guy who would be a good CB1 or CB2( not a great one ).

 

I would love to trade for him but it doesn't seem very practical. It would be worth it if we didn't have Moore.

[Fisticuffs111]

34 minutes ago, krunk said:

Why?? It's his natural position

Yup. He's even quoted as saying CB is where he's most comfortable. Only played at safety in Alabama out of necessity and then there was of course huge debate on what he should be in the NFL. Dolphins then decided to move him everywhere instead of letting him learn one position.

Like you said though, much better corner.

[krunk]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Yup. He's even quoted as saying CB is where he's most comfortable. Only played at safety in Alabama out of necessity and then there was of course huge debate on what he should be in the NFL. Dolphins of course decided to move him everywhere instead of letting him learn one position.

Like you said though, much better corner.

Especially in a scheme like ours where youre not playing that much man to man and you've got help over the top a lot of times. 

[krunk]

Waiting to see what my man Defjamz 26 has to say 

[PeterBowman]

after some thought....I'd totally see why Ballard would pull the trigger....but I'd also totally see why he wouldn't. 

 

How is Minkah playing the outside? I know he's great at slot, but Colts already have a very good slot cb. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I could see bringing him in opposite Desir. I mean he is still young and Desir will probably be gone in a couple of years. I really wouldn’t care if they traded Wilson. Rock got like 43% of the snaps so you would be reducing his snaps quite a bit I think.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

after some thought....I'd totally see why Ballard would pull the trigger....but I'd also totally see why he wouldn't. 

 

How is Minkah playing the outside? I know he's great at slot, but Colts already have a very good slot cb. 

That would be my thought as well.

[CR91]

Id give up Wilson and a one of our second round picks

[Fisticuffs111]

I loved Minkah coming out of the draft (still do), honestly one of my favorite prospects in recent memory, but I unfortunately don't see Ballard making the move. I think he'd love to have him but there could be a little bidding war and I don't see Ballard getting involved in it.

[PeterBowman]

https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/9481/minkah-fitzpatrick

 

Dolphins reportedly asking for a 1st. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Only if he is good on the outside. We already have a great slot.

[richard pallo]

Just read on Rotoworld where the Dolphins are seeking a 1st.  but they think a 2nd is more likely.   I can see Ballard going for a second and tossing in a player as well.  

[krunk]

3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Just read on Rotoworld where the Dolphins are seeking a 1st.  but they think a 2nd is more likely.   I can see Ballard going for that a second and tossing in a player as well.  

Minkah is worth one of our draft picks. Preferrably the extra 2nd round pick that we have.