What's your 53 prediction?

[EastStreet]

Here's my guess at the 53 unless we pick up some trim after cut down day.

 

Black bold = 53

Blue - PS at minimum

Red - cut

 

OFFENSE: 24

— WR: T.Y. Hilton, Chester Rogers, Parris Campbell, Marcus Johnson, Penny Hart, Jordan Veasy

— LT: Anthony Castonzo, Le’Raven Clark, Jackson Barton, J’Marcus Webb

— LG: Quenton Nelson, Evan Boehm, Nate Theaker

— C: Ryan Kelly, Josh Andrews, Evan Boehm (already on 53 at LG), Daniel Munyer

— RG: Mark Glowinski, Jake Eldrenkamp

— RT: Braden Smith, Joe Haeg, Antonio Garcia

— TE: Jack Doyle, Mo Alie-Cox, Gabe Holmes

— WR: Devin Funchess, Zach Pascal, Deon Cain, Krishawn Hogan, Ashton Dulin (11th on PS), Roger Lewis

— QB: Jacoby Brissett, Phillip Walker (on 53 till week 3), Chad Kelly

— TE: Eric Ebron, Ross Travis, Hale Hentges (maybe on the 53 in lieu of a 4th RB)

— RB: Marlon Mack, Nyheim Hines, Jordan Wilkins, Jonathan Williams, Aca’Cedric Ware, Charcandrick West, Marquis Young

 

DEFENSE: 26

— DE: Justin Houston, Kemoko Turay, Gerri Green, Obum Gwacham

— NT: Tyquan Lewis, Margus Hunt, Grover Stewart, Johnny Robinson

— UT: Denico Autry, Jihad Ward, Caraun Reid, Sterling Shippy

— DE: Jabaal Sheard, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Ben Banogu, Carroll Phillips

— WLB: Darius Leonard, E.J. Speed

— MLB: Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke, Ahmad Thomas

— SAM: Matthew Adams, Zaire Franklin, Skai Moore

— CB: Kenny Moore II, Quincy Wilson, Shakial Taylor, Jalen Collins (cut if we keep 6 WRs), Chris Milton

— FS: Malik Hooker, George Odum, Isaiah Johnson, Kai Nacua, Jacob Thieneman

— SS: Clayton Geathers, Khari Willis, Rolan Milligan, Micah Abernathy

— CB: Pierre Desir, Rock Ya-Sin, Marvell Tell III, Isaiah Langley

 

SPECIAL TEAMS: 3

— P and H: Rigoberto Sanchez

— PK: Adam Vinatieri, Cole Hedlund

— LS: Luke Rhodes

 

[PrincetonTiger]

Only 2 differences

    No to PW

    Yes to HH

   

[EastStreet]

7 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Only 2 differences

    No to PW

    Yes to HH

   

I have PW cut after week 2

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, EastStreet said:

I have PW cut after week 2

I have PW cut by Seymour

    

[Jdubu]

10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Here's my guess at the 53 unless we pick up some trim after cut down day.

 

Black bold = 53

Blue - PS at minimum

Red - cut

 

OFFENSE: 24

— WR: T.Y. Hilton, Chester Rogers, Parris Campbell, Marcus Johnson, Penny Hart, Jordan Veasy

— LT: Anthony Castonzo, Le’Raven Clark, Jackson Barton, J’Marcus Webb

— LG: Quenton Nelson, Evan Boehm, Nate Theaker

— C: Ryan Kelly, Josh Andrews, Evan Boehm (already on 53 at LG), Daniel Munyer

— RG: Mark Glowinski, Jake Eldrenkamp

— RT: Braden Smith, Joe Haeg, Antonio Garcia

— TE: Jack Doyle, Mo Alie-Cox, Gabe Holmes

— WR: Devin Funchess, Zach Pascal, Deon Cain, Krishawn Hogan, Ashton Dulin (11th on PS), Roger Lewis

— QB: Jacoby Brissett, Phillip Walker (on 53 till week 3), Chad Kelly

— TE: Eric Ebron, Ross Travis, Hale Hentges (maybe on the 53 in lieu of a 4th RB)

— RB: Marlon Mack, Nyheim Hines, Jordan Wilkins, Jonathan Williams, Aca’Cedric Ware, Charcandrick West, Marquis Young

 

DEFENSE: 26

— DE: Justin Houston, Kemoko Turay, Gerri Green, Obum Gwacham

— NT: Tyquan Lewis, Margus Hunt, Grover Stewart, Johnny Robinson

— UT: Denico Autry, Jihad Ward, Caraun Reid, Sterling Shippy

— DE: Jabaal Sheard, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Ben Banogu, Carroll Phillips

— WLB: Darius Leonard, E.J. Speed

— MLB: Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke, Ahmad Thomas

— SAM: Matthew Adams, Zaire Franklin, Skai Moore

— CB: Kenny Moore II, Quincy Wilson, Shakial Taylor, Jalen Collins (cut if we keep 6 WRs), Chris Milton

— FS: Malik Hooker, George Odum, Isaiah Johnson, Kai Nacua, Jacob Thieneman

— SS: Clayton Geathers, Khari Willis, Rolan Milligan, Micah Abernathy

— CB: Pierre Desir, Rock Ya-Sin, Marvell Tell III, Isaiah Langley

 

SPECIAL TEAMS: 3

— P and H: Rigoberto Sanchez

— PK: Adam Vinatieri, Cole Hedlund

— LS: Luke Rhodes

 

That’s pretty much what I have as well except I really think however we have to make it work, Hentges makes this team. He has produced every game and was highly praised in practice time. We either don’t keep 6 DB’s, or we go 3 rb’s to start. 

 

My 3 wants to stay somehow are Hentges, Hogan and either Phillips or Travis. I don’t think Stewart is getting cut though.  Pascal is tough to part with as well as J. Williams. Tough cuts tonight. 

[Jdubu]

6 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

I have PW cut after week 2

I’d cut PW before he leaves the cincy stadium tonight and take my gambles on a cut down player who has average success in passing over the middle. 

[1959Colts]

17 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

DEFENSE: 26

— DE: Justin Houston, Kemoko Turay, Gerri Green, Obum Gwacham

— NT: Tyquan Lewis, Margus Hunt, Grover Stewart, Johnny Robinson

— UT: Denico Autry, Jihad Ward, Caraun Reid, Sterling Shippy

— DE: Jabaal Sheard, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Ben Banogu, Carroll Phillips

— WLB: Darius Leonard, E.J. Speed

— MLB: Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke, Ahmad Thomas

— SAM: Matthew Adams, Zaire Franklin, Skai Moore

— CB: Kenny Moore II, Quincy Wilson, Shakial Taylor, Jalen Collins (cut if we keep 6 WRs), Chris Milton

— FS: Malik Hooker, George Odum, Isaiah Johnson, Kai Nacua, Jacob Thieneman

— SS: Clayton Geathers, Khari Willis, Rolan Milligan, Micah Abernathy

— CB: Pierre Desir, Rock Ya-Sin, Marvell Tell III, Isaiah Langley

 

You make a good guess at it...

But I don't see Collins over Milton. 

You think Caraun Reid makes the cut?

[EastStreet]

1 minute ago, 1959Colts said:

You make a good guess at it...

But I don't see Collins over Milton. 

You think Caraun Reid makes the cut?

Collins and Milton was a very hard one for me. It became a depth need vs STs to me.

 

I kept Reid on the 53 because we kept 3 UTs for most of the year in 2018 IIRC. That could change if we have DEs sliding inside more.

[holeymoley99]

Hentges sticks,

Hogan sticks at WR (we keep 6 he beats out Pascal),

Collins gets cut for Milton, 

Stewart over Reid on D line.

 

Kelly has to make initial 53 then put on suspended list or we risk losing him. Then once on s.l. we will be free to sign a free agent qb vet to fill in backup for 2 weeks.

 

Clark gets cut and we sign a Tackle from another team's cuts.

[1959Colts]

Its possible Sheard ends up on IR.

[EastStreet]

7 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

I’d cut PW before he leaves the cincy stadium tonight and take my gambles on a cut down player who has average success in passing over the middle. 

Neither PW or a cutdown is going to win a game should JB go down in the first two games. So easier to just keep the guy who knows the O for 15 days....

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, EastStreet said:

Neither PW or a cutdown is going to win a game should JB go down in the first two games. So easier to just keep the guy who knows the O for 15 days....

In 2017 Jacoby Brissett arrived on cut down day and was a starter very soon 

 

   

[GoColts8818]

35 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Here's my guess at the 53 unless we pick up some trim after cut down day.

 

Black bold = 53

Blue - PS at minimum

Red - cut

 

OFFENSE: 24

— WR: T.Y. Hilton, Chester Rogers, Parris Campbell, Marcus Johnson, Penny Hart, Jordan Veasy

— LT: Anthony Castonzo, Le’Raven Clark, Jackson Barton, J’Marcus Webb

— LG: Quenton Nelson, Evan Boehm, Nate Theaker

— C: Ryan Kelly, Josh Andrews, Evan Boehm (already on 53 at LG), Daniel Munyer

— RG: Mark Glowinski, Jake Eldrenkamp

— RT: Braden Smith, Joe Haeg, Antonio Garcia

— TE: Jack Doyle, Mo Alie-Cox, Gabe Holmes

— WR: Devin Funchess, Zach Pascal, Deon Cain, Krishawn Hogan, Ashton Dulin (11th on PS), Roger Lewis

— QB: Jacoby Brissett, Phillip Walker (on 53 till week 3), Chad Kelly

— TE: Eric Ebron, Ross Travis, Hale Hentges (maybe on the 53 in lieu of a 4th RB)

— RB: Marlon Mack, Nyheim Hines, Jordan Wilkins, Jonathan Williams, Aca’Cedric Ware, Charcandrick West, Marquis Young

 

DEFENSE: 26

— DE: Justin Houston, Kemoko Turay, Gerri Green, Obum Gwacham

— NT: Tyquan Lewis, Margus Hunt, Grover Stewart, Johnny Robinson

— UT: Denico Autry, Jihad Ward, Caraun Reid, Sterling Shippy

— DE: Jabaal Sheard, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Ben Banogu, Carroll Phillips

— WLB: Darius Leonard, E.J. Speed

— MLB: Anthony Walker, Bobby Okereke, Ahmad Thomas

— SAM: Matthew Adams, Zaire Franklin, Skai Moore

— CB: Kenny Moore II, Quincy Wilson, Shakial Taylor, Jalen Collins (cut if we keep 6 WRs), Chris Milton

— FS: Malik Hooker, George Odum, Isaiah Johnson, Kai Nacua, Jacob Thieneman

— SS: Clayton Geathers, Khari Willis, Rolan Milligan, Micah Abernathy

— CB: Pierre Desir, Rock Ya-Sin, Marvell Tell III, Isaiah Langley

 

SPECIAL TEAMS: 3

— P and H: Rigoberto Sanchez

— PK: Adam Vinatieri, Cole Hedlund

— LS: Luke Rhodes

 

I don’t think they will keep a kicker on PS.

 

I think they keep Milton over Collins for special teams.  It wouldn’t shock me if they keep Milton over Tell for that reason either.  

 

I think Stewart makes it over Reid.

 

id like to see them keep Phillips over Muhammad but I’d have a hard time seeing it happen based on how they were used in pre-season.  

 

Based on this roster they have to keep Walker as Kelly will be suspended (he also won’t count against the roster for two weeks which will open a spot for someone) but ultimately I think they bring in a different QB and cut Walker.

 

i think Thomas makes it at linebacker.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

I don’t think they will keep a kicker on PS.

 

I think they keep Milton over Collins for special teams.  It wouldn’t shock me if they keep Milton over Tell for that reason either.  

 

I think Steward makes it over Reid.

 

id like to see them keep Phillips over Muhammad but I’d have a hard time seeing it happen based on how they were used in pre-season.  

 

Based on this roster they have to keep Walker as Kelly will be suspended (he also won’t count against the roster for two weeks which will open a spot for someone) but ultimately I think they bring in a different QB and cut Walker.

 

i think Thomas makes it at linebacker.

Ai agree PS spots are too valuable to keep a specialist 

[1959Colts]

E.J. Speed was making tackles all over the field.

I was somewhat impressed with Kai Nacua at safety and on special teams.

[EastStreet]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

In 2017 Jacoby Brissett arrived on cut down day and was a starter very soon 

 

JB wasn't a trim. We traded a 2nd rounder for him.

And it wasn't an ideal situation either. In his first game we got throttled, in his second, we lost at home to a terrible AZ team. We almost lost the 3rd game at home to a terrible Browns team.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, EastStreet said:

 

JB wasn't a trim. We traded a 2nd rounder for him.

And it wasn't an ideal situation either. In his first game we got throttled, in his second, we lost at home to a terrible AZ team. We almost lost the 3rd game at home to a terrible Browns team.

Late Preseason trades are forms of cuts

 

     

[EastStreet]

5 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I don’t think they will keep a kicker on PS.

 

I think they keep Milton over Collins for special teams.  It wouldn’t shock me if they keep Milton over Tell for that reason either.  

 

I think Steward makes it over Reid.

 

id like to see them keep Phillips over Muhammad but I’d have a hard time seeing it happen based on how they were used in pre-season.  

 

Based on this roster they have to keep Walker as Kelly will be suspended (he also won’t count against the roster for two weeks which will open a spot for someone) but ultimately I think they bring in a different QB and cut Walker.

 

i think Thomas makes it at linebacker.

I think we'll have to keep a kicker unless AV is 100%. If the coaches think is 100% now, I agree we won't keep one.

 

Milton over Collins wouldn't surprise me. It was one of my last flips. I can also see Grover over Reid, but past roster have only kept 2 NTs and 3 UTs.

 

I don't think we keep over 6 LBs. We barely use a SAM, so it's a bit of a waste IMO. Good for STs, but I think we have other pressing needs over a 7th LB.

[1959Colts]

5 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

JB wasn't a trim. We traded a 2nd rounder for him.

And it wasn't an ideal situation either. In his first game we got throttled, in his second, we lost at home to a terrible AZ team. We almost lost the 3rd game at home to a terrible Browns team.

Actually, I think it was a first round choice? Phillip Dorsett

[EastStreet]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Late Preseason trades are forms of cuts

 

 

NE was not going to cut JB. We were in desperate need. And we didn't want to get rid of or cut Dorsett. He was trending up for us and was our #2 the year before...... either player was far from a form of cut....

[GoColts8818]

10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

JB wasn't a trim. We traded a 2nd rounder for him.

And it wasn't an ideal situation either. In his first game we got throttled, in his second, we lost at home to a terrible AZ team. We almost lost the 3rd game at home to a terrible Browns team.

They traded Dorsett for him, most useful thing the Colts ever got out of a Grigson first rounder not named Luck or Kelly.

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Actually, I think it was a first round choice? Phillip Dorsett

It was

 

     JB had been beaten out by Jimmy G and PD’s time in Indy gad run its course

[EastStreet]

5 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Actually, I think it was a first round choice? Phillip Dorsett

you are correct. 29th. good catch

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

 

NE was not going to cut JB. We were in desperate need. And we didn't want to get rid of or cut Dorsett. He was trending up for us and was our #2 the year before...... either player was far from a form of cut....

They had Jimmy G as their #2

    He had played the year before because of Injuries to JG

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

They traded Dorsett for him, most useful thing the Colts ever got out of a Grigson first rounder not named Luck or Kelly.

Ballard cleaning house

[Jdubu]

19 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I don’t think they will keep a kicker on PS.

 

I think they keep Milton over Collins for special teams.  It wouldn’t shock me if they keep Milton over Tell for that reason either.  

 

I think Stewart makes it over Reid.

 

id like to see them keep Phillips over Muhammad but I’d have a hard time seeing it happen based on how they were used in pre-season.  

 

Based on this roster they have to keep Walker as Kelly will be suspended (he also won’t count against the roster for two weeks which will open a spot for someone) but ultimately I think they bring in a different QB and cut Walker.

 

i think Thomas makes it at linebacker.

If Tell is cut for Milton, I’ll buy you a beer. 

[EastStreet]

5 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

They had Jimmy G as their #2

    He had played the year before because of Injuries to JG

The Pats have often kept 3 QBs on the roster. At the time, they were in need of a WR/Returner because of injuries to Edleman. We had an injury to Luck. It was a trade based on mutual need, not a form of a cut. And it was after cut down day in Sept.

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, Jdubu said:

If Tell is cut for Milton, I’ll buy you a beer. 

If they do it’s because of special teams and by the time you are talking about the fifth and sixth corner special teams matters a lot.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, EastStreet said:

The Pats have often kept 3 QBs on the roster. At the time, they were in need of a WR/Returner because of injuries to Edleman. We had an injury to Luck. It was a trade based on mutual need, not a form of a cut.

You are both right to an extent.  

 

There was some speculation that the Pats were going to cut Brissett because they didn’t have room on their roster for three QBs due to the injuries they had going into the season.  

 

With that said you are right a trade and a cut are two different things.

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

If they do it’s because of special teams and by the time you are talking about the fifth and sixth corner special teams matters a lot.

Both might get cut No one knows yet

[Fisticuffs111]

I think we're keeping Pascal (and 6 WR's). Him not playing tonight was evident of that IMO. I'm reminded of one of those "Behind the Scenes" training camp videos when our WR coach specifically talked about Hilton, Funchess, Campbell, Cain, Rogers, and Pascal. Ever since then I've figured those were our guys, especially after Fountain went down.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Both might get cut No one knows yet

I don’t think I said I did.  However, the point of this thread is to post thoughts and ideas about cuts and who we THINK makes the roster.  

 

It is possible both get cut and they keep Collins.

[PrincetonTiger]

7 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

You are both right to an extent.  

 

There was some speculation that the Pats were going to cut Brissett because they didn’t have room on their roster for three QBs due to the injuries they had going into the season.  

 

With that said you are right a trade and a cut are two different things.

I never said they were just that several teams use trades as a way to cut a player and give him a shot to stick somewhere else and/or get something in return

 

    The Colts recently did it with Henry Anderson and Thomas Hennessy 

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

I don’t think I said I did.  However, the point of this thread is to post thoughts and ideas about cuts and who we THINK makes the roster.  

 

It is possible both get cut and they keep Collins.

No offense intended    

      There are so many factors that will decide the final 54

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

No offense intended    

      There are so many factors that will decide the final 54

Yes there and clearly none of us know for a fact what’s going to happen all we can do is offer up on opinions on what we think should happen or will happen.

[EastStreet]

15 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I think we're keeping Pascal (and 6 WR's). Him not playing tonight was evident of that IMO. I'm reminded of one of those "Behind the Scenes" training camp videos when our WR coach specifically talked about Hilton, Funchess, Campbell, Cain, Rogers, and Pascal. Ever since then I've figured those were our guys, especially after Fountain went down.

I thought we'd keep a 6th for a while, but that ended with Fountain going down. Not sure that Pascal's absence really means anything. We know full well what we have in him. Aside from Campbell getting some time finally, I think the rest of the WRs were out there to audition for the PS. And Pascal isn't eligible. While I'd prefer personally to keep 6, I think there are more compelling needs other places and more compelling players.

[IndyScribe]

Tell won't get cut. It's unlikely he clears waivers.

[Jackie Daytona]

9 hours ago, EastStreet said:

Here's my guess at the 53 unless we pick up some trim after cut downs.

Nothin wrong with picking up some trim any time.

[Jdubu]

8 hours ago, EastStreet said:

I thought we'd keep a 6th for a while, but that ended with Fountain going down. Not sure that Pascal's absence really means anything. We know full well what we have in him. Aside from Campbell getting some time finally, I think the rest of the WRs were out there to audition for the PS. And Pascal isn't eligible. While I'd prefer personally to keep 6, I think there are more compelling needs other places and more compelling players.

I fully agree. 

[Jdubu]

9 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

If they do it’s because of special teams and by the time you are talking about the fifth and sixth corner special teams matters a lot.

They won’t cut Tell because of his upside. They will have to roll with the mistakes of rookies a bit but I just don’t see Tell getting cut, he has flashed enough in games to deserve the draft pick and development time you expect from a later draft choice. He is making the 53 and it would be quite the shock if somehow he doesn’t.