Colts 53 Man Cut Transactions Thread

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Not really. They have Mcnown to backup Wentz. Sudfield will be back by the end of Sept.

 

4 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

they like Sudfield.

Kessler was behind him and McCown IIRC and maybe another guy.

 

4 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

They talked McCown out of retirement, he only came out to be the backup if imagine, so they are pretty good there, especially once Sudfeld is healthy, which shouldn't be much longer, a month I think.

McCown was brought out of retirement because Kessler had to leave game 2 with a concussion 

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

I'd be more interested in Heinicke, who we're already bringing in, than Kessler.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

I'd be more interested in Heinicke, who we're already bringing in, than Kessler.

Agreed

[Wentzszn 10,037]

Why does this Taylor H Kid not have to clear waivers but Kessler does? Can someone explain that to me?

[EastStreet 10,099]

8 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

 

 

McCown was brought out of retirement because Kessler had to leave game 2 with a concussion 

McCown was brought back more because Sudfield went down. Sudfield was #2 on depth chart for the first preseason game, and McCown coming back sealed Kessler's fate. Kessler was more in competition with Thorson prior to McCown returning.

[jvan1973 5,499]

6 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Why does this Taylor H Kid not have to clear waivers but Kessler does? Can someone explain that to me?

tyler heinicke is a vested veteran with 4 years in the league.  Kesler only has 3

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

4 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

McCown was brought back more because Sudfield went down. Sudfield was #2 on depth chart for the first preseason game, and McCown coming back sealed Kessler's fate. Kessler was more in competition with Thorson prior to McCown returning.

McCown was not brought in until after the Kessler injury

  I watched the 1st 2 Eagles games and saw NS, CK, and CT but not JM

 

    I believe the plan was to play CK or CT as the #2 after the Sudfeld injury

[Wentzszn 10,037]

 

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

That could be a smoke screen

 

    Why did the agent choose that post to contradict not the one from Ed Wade(?) this morning

[Jdubu 1,268]

10 hours ago, CanuckColt said:

Does Walker have any eligible PS time remaining?

 

God I hope we’ve seen the last of this prospect who has zero upside. 

3 hours ago, dw49 said:

 

 

Green IMO has no chance at all. He'll make it to the PS if the Colts want him. 

 

Funny how Green was the one draft pick that no one seemed to think was worthy of taking in round 6. A few on this board like him but most didn't and the "pundits" also didn't like the pick. No big deal that we probably blew a 6th round pick ... just saying.

Now watch him hit our PS and light it up once he gets his switch flipped. Could end up flaming out but it’s a risk CB felt he wanted to try. 

59 minutes ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

I think we'll bring 4TE-s, and Hentges will clear the waivers so he can go to PS. We'll see soon.

Hentges will not clear wavers and I almost bet that Travis is being shopped tonight and if need be, he is the cut not Hentges. 

[il vecchio 117]

15 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

Hentges will not clear wavers and I almost bet that Travis is being shopped tonight and if need be, he is the cut not Hentges. 

 

I've been hoping that we might keep Hentges and get a good backup O-lineman for Travis, rather than just lose him in the cuts.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

1 minute ago, il vecchio said:

 

I've been hoping that we might keep Hentges and get a good backup O-lineman for Travis, rather than just lose him in the cuts.

I like Travis but he can’t beat out EE and MAC

[richard pallo 2,822]

1 hour ago, csmopar said:

We need all the weapons we can keep

I doubt we can keep them all.

 

1 hour ago, Peterk2011 said:

 

I think we'll bring 4TE-s, and Hentges will clear the waivers so he can go to PS. We'll see soon.

I think Hentges will be the 4th. TE,  I think Travis is going to be traded.   We'll see. 

[Stephen 1,875]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

I doubt we can keep them all.

 

I think Hentges will be the 4th. TE,  I think Travis is going to be traded.   We'll see. 

Trade him to Patriots 

[Wentzszn 10,037]

Cox is like Ebron. I think it will be Hale because he is like Doyle. Travis is more like Ebron.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

I doubt we can keep them all.

 

I think Hentges will be the 4th. TE,  I think Travis is going to be traded.   We'll see. 

That is how I feel 

  Spread TE

    EE

    MAC

 

  InLine TE

    JD

    HH

[jameszeigler834 967]

4 hours ago, CR91 said:

Boehm was terrible. I lost count how many snaps he botched

Him being bad shocked me he looked decent for us last year when Kelly was out I guess he was only good under that other o-line coach who I believe is his position coach again with Miami.

[jameszeigler834 967]

31 minutes ago, il vecchio said:

 

I've been hoping that we might keep Hentges and get a good backup O-lineman for Travis, rather than just lose him in the cuts.

If Hentges is the cut that would be a bonehead move.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

1 minute ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Him being bad shocked me he looked decent for us last year when Kelly was out I guess he was only good under that other o-line coach who I believe is his position coach again with Miami.

Yes Coach D is in Miami

[Douzer 518]

35 minutes ago, il vecchio said:

 

I've been hoping that we might keep Hentges and get a good backup O-lineman for Travis, rather than just lose him in the cuts.

Agreed and the drop-off at OT from the 1's to the 2's is a cliff right now.

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

Yeah, count me in as a Hentges supporter over Travis. I think when it comes to your 4th TE you should go with the better all around option and that's definitely Hentges.

 

Remember how many times in the beginning of last season (before Doyle went down) it seemed like they were reluctant to put Ebron in? There were quite a few games where we really didn't even see much of him until the 2nd half, specifically because of his blocking woes.

[Wentzszn 10,037]

 

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Great statement by JW

7 minutes ago, Douzer said:

Agreed and the drop-off at OT from the 1's to the 2's is a cliff right now.

It is scary

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

Looking like our OL depth is gonna be Haeg, Andrews, Eldrenkamp, and Barton. Maybe we pick somebody else up on waivers though.

Honetsly, considering just how bad the state of OL talent/depth is around the league, I'm acutally fine with Haeg/Andrews/Eldrenkamp as backups. Barton's meh, but he is a rookie, so hopefully he improves.

[Wentzszn 10,037]

I think you do have to remember your not going to be playing five backups on the oline in the regular season. If one guy gets injured we can probably be ok.  Rick. Venturi today he might think of putting Braden Smith or at LT if AC gets hurt and putting Haeg at RT.

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

It's looking like our backup OL will be Haeg, Andrews, Eldrenkamp, and Barton. Although maybe we pick somebody else up on waivers because I wouldn't be surprised if we roll with 10 OL.

Considering just how bad the state of OL talent/depth is around the league, I'm acutally fine with Haeg/Andrews/Eldrenkamp. Barton's meh, but he is a rookie, so hopefully he improves.

Barton was so bad.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

I think you do have to remember your not going to be playing five backups on the oline in the regular season. If one guy gets injured we can probably be ok.  Rick. Venturi today he might think of putting Braden Smith or at LT if AC gets hurt and putting Haeg at RT.

 

Ok

  Smith stays at RT and Haeg plays LT

[Wentzszn 10,037]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Ok

  Smith stays at RT and Haeg plays LT

Yes. He just thinks haeg is better at RT.

[csmopar 7,514]

Webb played well for us last year before getting hurt. Surprised at all the OL depth we are losing

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

Yes. He just thinks haeg is better at RT.

I put very little stock in what Venturi says

    I often get on the soap box for the exact opposite 

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Yes. He just thinks haeg is better at RT.

Weird take by Venturi IMO. Haeg at least has experience at LT. Smith barely has experience at RT let alone none at LT.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

Just now, csmopar said:

Webb played well for us last year before getting hurt. Surprised at all the OL depth we are losing

I have a feeling age and/or injuries have caught up with him

[Wentzszn 10,037]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Weird take by Venturi IMO. Haeg at least has experience at LT. Smith barely has experience at RT let alone none at LT.

I agree. I thought it was a interesting take.

[HectorRoberts 763]

I hope we don’t keep Eldrenkamp! he’s been awful!

[CanuckColt 429]

58 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I doubt we can keep them all.

 

I think Hentges will be the 4th. TE,  I think Travis is going to be traded.   We'll see. 

Hentges will make it to the PS...no worries.

 

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

2 minutes ago, HectorRoberts said:

I hope we don’t keep Eldrenkamp! he’s been awful!

I had Boehm being kept over Elderkamp

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

I was only surprised about Boehm until I read that the coaches have liked Andrews/Eldrenkam more and that Boehm was essentially fighting for his spot from early on.

I liked what I saw from Boehm last year too but maybe Strausser/Mudd like Eldrenkamp as a better fit.

[CanuckColt 429]

2 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I was only surprised about Boehm until I read that the coaches have liked Andrews/Eldrenkam more and that Boehm was essentially fighting for his spot from early on.

I liked what I saw from Boehm last year too but maybe Strausser/Mudd like Eldrenkamp as a better fit.

Maybe he's a more promising project.

 

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

2 minutes ago, CanuckColt said:

Maybe he's a more promising project.

 

I assume that's part of it, yeah. I'm not saying it was only fit, Boehm certainly had his struggles.

[PrincetonTiger 8,521]

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

I assume that's part of it, yeah. Boehm had his struggles, specifically in the run game. 

The other thing might be EB was brought in by Coach D and JE was brought in by Strasser/Mudd

[Fisticuffs111 1,994]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

The other thing might be EB was brought in by Coach D and JE was brought in by Strasser/Mudd

Oh, definitely. That's essentially what I meant by fit possibly playing a factor.