Luck Retires/ The timing of it all... (merge)

[JR Indy 80]

Congrats to Andrew Luck. Thank you for playing for Indy. I understand a body and mind can only take so much pain. Personally my pain tolerance is not that high. How do you leave, how do you say goodbye? I wish that young man long life, and good health. Get healthy and live your life. This is shocking to say the least as a Indy fan. But the Colts are going to be OK. It may take a little while but we will rise again.

[Reidm 131]

8 minutes ago, Pilgrim said:

I get it, but who knows, (as far as FA's go) we just got 4 years younger at QB, with a QB that was arguably our best player in 2017. Of course, we went 4-12, but we were in a lot of games, with a QB who really didn't know the offense. Yes, our fans booed, but I think if any team found out that a player was retiring during a game, near the start of the season, their fans would boo.

 

We did get 4 years younger but Andrew was a generational talent. I'm just thinking out loud here but a player that has constantly been criticized like Ebron would surely rather go to team that would be accepting of him.  Ebron is an easy example but what about funchess Etc. Even if Luck was regretting the decision i'm sure the booing confirmed his beliefs. I just dont see how this wont have an impact on fa even if its in a minuscule way

[Two_pound 174]

Hey Horseshoecrabs, loved what you said about loving the horseshoe, I've been a colt fan since the mid 60's, seen a lot of bad football, and a lot of great football. Have had Sunday ticket since '96 and haven't missed a game. To put things in perspective this is nothing, imagine how Nebraska fans felt the day they announced the hiring of Bill Callahan. Then a few years later they fire Bo Pelini and announce the hiring of Mike Riley. Double whammy! God bless Andrew Luck and God bless all loyal Colt fans.

[Fluke_33 1,006]

4 hours ago, threeflight said:

All I can tell you is I was told by a friend who played in the NFL and who is very close to an NFL player still playing that word around the league was lots of other NFL qbs would have played the past 2 years with the injuries Luck had. 

 

Hell even Irsay said it was more between the ears than an actual injury.

 

I think Luck played with worse injuries with his ribs and kidney compared to the shoulder.  But for whatever reason, that injury really scared him.

 

And I am sure getting married and starting a family did even more.

 

He has always been kind of a nerdy, strange guy.  Not your typical NFL jock.  This is kind of right up his alley of something he might do if you really see what kind of person he is.

 

I don't begrudge him retiring.  I am furious however at his timing.  2 weeks before the season?  After telling everyone you will be ready for week 1?

 

That is chicken ****.

 

The last two qbs here would have played through it.  Manning broke his jaw and missed one play that season.  Harbaugh got beaten like rag doll and had no quit in him.  Iirc he got his knee scoped after one game and played in the next.   

 

[SteelCityColt 8,195]

I went to sleep and woke up in a very different world...

 

I can get people being upset and angry at the timing of all this, but frankly some people's reactions are not short of shameful, and as for the fans who booed him? You just booed a man who has put him self through a god awful lot of punishment for the franchise over the years and his last memory of you is being booed off. For shame. 

 

The timing sucks, and there's more to this story then we'll know in the short term. Best I can figure is the injury was misdiagnosed/mishandled and is worse than expected. But worse, as in the you can play but it will have long term repercussions sort of way. The dancing around not practicing I think was time for Luck to see if he wanted to put himself through that pain & risk, and possibly see if the injury progressed. However as a team there had to be a line in the sand eventually and sadly when push came to shove Luck decided enough was enough. I don't think either side wanted it to be done this way, but it is what it is. For those calling him a quitter etc. I think the reaction of his team mates shows it all, these guys will have seen what he's put himself to get on the field every Sunday. 

 

I don't want to dwell on this, I'm sad, I'm hurt. Instead I want to say thank you to Luck for some of my best NFL memories, the 2012 season will always be magic to me, I have a picture of his Superman leap in the KC game hung in my office and just innumerate times he put this team on his back. I'm not going to forget all he's done for this team over this. 

 

At the end of the day I think the fact was, football needed Andrew Luck more than he needed football. I don't doubt he won't be the last player to make this sort of choice, the NFL is a violent game that can severely affect your long term health, chronic pain is life destroying in some cases. He's an intelligent young man with a big social conscious. He has the money, I don't doubt he will do something with his life past this.   

[deedub75 1,175]

5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

 

There was no deadline to retire.     The deadline was only concerning whether he would start week 1.     That's it.     Reich isn't giving his star quarterback a deadline whether to play or retire! Come one,  of course it's an unrealistic assessment.    

 

Retirement talk doesn't come from the head coach.    It comes from the owner and the GM.

 

 

 

I said nothing about a deadline to retire. I said Reich gave a Monday deadline for Luck to start game week one. It’s not a stretch to think that Luck gave himself that same deadline to decide if he would just retire. After listening to him last night it seems like that’s what happened since he said that he pretty much knew about 2 weeks ago that he’d retire. 

[Myles 2,613]

I'm going to stick with Luck being a quitter.  I would have been booing him if I was there.  

[NewEra 3,649]

Really really disappointed. Makes me wish we never let Manning go. Way to just quit right before the season starts. WTH does that?!? Should of retired when season ended if that's what his lame * self was going to do. 

[JimJaime 341]

He has suffered a lot of injuries threw the years. Heck I dare say he had as many injuries as Gronk thanks to a rather porous offensive line.

[JimJaime 341]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Really really disappointed. Makes me wish we never let Manning go. Way to just quit right before the season starts. WTH does that?!? Should of retired when season ended if that's what his lame * self was going to do. 

I think he made the decision after the latest  injury and it sounds like it wasn’t getting better.

[NewEra 3,649]

Just now, JimJaime said:

I think he made the decision after the latest  injury and it sounds like it wasn’t getting better.

I'm more upset about the timing verse the retirement. I wish he would have given a heads up so the team could have prepared during the offseason. Then again, maybe he did and that was their answer? 

[jskinnz 5,468]

9 hours ago, csmopar said:

Why should he? Luck has played the fans and this team for fools for a month. Take your high horse elsewhere. What Luck just did to this team, regardless of reason, is the lowest of the low. I put this on the same level of the Josh McDaniels bull crap

 

Oh dear god...

[Gramz 9,834]

This thread tho.  

 

 

[Myles 2,613]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I'm more upset about the timing verse the retirement. I wish he would have given a heads up so the team could have prepared during the offseason. Then again, maybe he did and that was their answer? 

If that is the case , he's just a liar.

[SteelCityColt 8,195]

Just a thought... 

 

This gets leaked mid-game, and sure he’s made his decision most likely but it’s not been officially announced. 

 

Rather then, I don’t know, chanting for him to stay, or showing he’s loved here, you boo him, If there was any doubt left in his mind, that probably removed it.

 

The full story does need to come out, this is practically unprecedented and I’m sure there’s a lot more going on than we know currently.

[ricker182 1,110]

5 hours ago, threeflight said:

Bro losing a franchise Qb, on a team ready to win, is not a temporary setback.

 

It derails this franchise for years to come.  Everything changes.

Sets us back 5 years easily.  

  

Teams just don't usually win without stud QB's in the NFL anymore and they're nearly impossible to land.

  

We just lost our irreplaceable stud QB.  

  

I gotta feel for Ballard. This really messes up his plan.   

  

The only hope I have is Ballard had some grandiose master plan "B" for if Luck retired.

[Restored 1,396]

4 hours ago, Reidm said:

 

Honestly i'm more worried about future free agents as well. I've been looking at a lot of reactions across the NFL and most of the players are bringing up the booing from the fans. Why would you want to play for an organization that the fans will turn its back on you so quick. (But i do get the reaction from the fans. We are all in shock and hurting)

 

I can promise you that if the exact same situation happened with all 31 other teams, there would be some fans booing. It was just the timing of it that elicited those reactions. Not saying they are right or justified but I also understand why it happened.

[JColts72 855]

Fans here comparing Luck to George is so foolish. The Bert 2 is more accurate. Luck has the edge though with playoff wins. Any too qb  in 20? Trading 3 last year is hindsight but just don't pass on chance to get qb there. 

[Valpo2004 3,646]

Saw this on my news feed.

 

Would you guys think less of me if I admitted that I shed a few tears?

 

 

[Gramz 9,834]

9 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:

Fans are never going to trust this organization again.

 

 

[ManningGM 616]

I don't know about y'all but I got over Luck quickly 

 

 

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

 

[csmopar 8,615]

1 minute ago, ManningGM said:

I don't know about y'all but I got over Luck quickly 

 

 

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

 

Odds of us landing him are extremely slim

4 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Saw this on my news feed.

 

Would you guys think less of me if I admitted that I shed a few tears?

 

 

Not one bit

[Hoose 842]

The booing was an emotional, shocked and angry reaction by some fans. It was unfortunate, but the world will forget about it soon enough. 

What we shouldn’t forget is what this guy did when he was on the field. He played his heart out. He played injured.  He played in severe pain. He put the team on his back time and time again. And he performed at the highest level. And his team mates loved him and had total respect for him. And now he’s injured again and it looks like it may not get better, perhaps ever, without some drastic changes. He’s had enough. 

I am as shocked as anyone by the decision. The timing is awful. But let’s stop the name calling and the quitter rants. He’s given this team and it’s fans an amazing ride. It’s a setback for the team. But they are in the most capable hands imaginable with Chris Ballard at the helm. They’ll survive and thrive. I wish Andrew Luck nothing but the best.  And I thank him for making football Sunday as a Colt fan something special. 

[ManningGM 616]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Odds of us landing him are extremely slim

[NFLfan 8,184]

6 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Saw this on my news feed.

 

Would you guys think less of me if I admitted that I shed a few tears?

 

I did too and I'm not a Colts fan. It brought to mind when Bridgewater got hurt right before the start of the 2016 season (Aug 30th). Our fan base was despondent. And he was not the elite QB that Luck is. 

[csmopar 8,615]

https://sports.yahoo.com/linebacker-paul-worrilow-retires-from-nfl-hours-after-signing-with-ravens-162237438.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=yahoosports&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=socialflow&fbclid=IwAR0_tUxY8vDw0ztYqqZbroPzPMAokpq3mkcsSqeEKFlrZUaELD_idQAg0PY

 

 

Well, if it’s any consolation, the Ravens just had it happen to, albeit to a less important player

[NFLfan 8,184]

3 minutes ago, Hoose said:

The booing was an emotional, shocked and angry reaction by some fans. It was unfortunate, but the world will forget about it soon enough. 

What we shouldn’t forget is what this guy did when he was on the field. He played his heart out. He played injured.  He played in severe pain. He put the team on his back time and time again. And he performed at the highest level. And his team mates loved him and had total respect for him. And now he’s injured again and it looks like it may not get better, perhaps ever, without some drastic changes. He’s had enough. 

I am as shocked as anyone by the decision. The timing is awful. But let’s stop the name calling and the quitter rants. He’s given this team and it’s fans an amazing ride. It’s a setback for the team. But they are in the most capable hands imaginable with Chris Ballard at the helm. They’ll survive and thrive. I wish Andrew Luck nothing but the best.  And I thank him for making football Sunday as a Colt fan something special. 

 

Very well said. 

[NFLfan 8,184]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/linebacker-paul-worrilow-retires-from-nfl-hours-after-signing-with-ravens-162237438.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=yahoosports&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=socialflow&fbclid=IwAR0_tUxY8vDw0ztYqqZbroPzPMAokpq3mkcsSqeEKFlrZUaELD_idQAg0PY

 

 

Well, if it’s any consolation, the Ravens just had it happen to, albeit to a less important player

 

I saw that announced yesterday morning, well before Luck's announcement.

[csmopar 8,615]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

I saw that announced yesterday morning, well before Luck's announcement.

Gotcha

[Gramz 9,834]

13 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Saw this on my news feed.

 

Would you guys think less of me if I admitted that I shed a few tears?

 

 

No.

 

Everyone has their own reactions and feelings. I cried like a baby when Peyton made his announcement. 

 

Having said that... for some reason Andrew's announcement, surprising as it is, didn't hit me the same way.  Maybe because he didn't play in several of the games I've gone to over the past years.   One injury after another.

 

As I said in an earlier post, I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.  I'm sure It was a hard decision, but he must know that he wasn't going to be able to give  100% and thought it best to step down.  

 

Timing sucks, but none of us know how long he's been struggling with it, or if he tried earlier and was convinced to give it more time, until he just couldn't. 

 

We don't know.

[MarquisJ 411]

Hate to compare but i’m going to do it anyway... Watching Cam get out that horrific car accident and being hit/hurt just as much if not more than Andrew and is still in the league blows my mind away. Same with Peyton before he retired.. Had all those neck surgeries then coming back to later win a chip.. Drive separates players who want to be good and players who want to be great. Always felt like Andrew liked football but never eat breathe and slept it. Potential was sky high for him but Grigson AND Andrew are to blame for his injuries. Booing I feel was more towards the lies and being mislead countless times about Luck and his injuries. From going to you think Luck will play week 1 to now he retires? But y’all have had this conversation for 2 weeks now? What? Good luck to the rest of your life/health Andrew but very bitter about this one.

[ricker182 1,110]

I'm most upset that my sons won't get a chance to grow up watching him play.  

  

Andrew is one heck of a role model and my kids are not going to witness that.  

  

But best of "Luck" to Andrew. He's gotta look out for himself.

[stitches 6,122]

45 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I'm more upset about the timing verse the retirement. I wish he would have given a heads up so the team could have prepared during the offseason. Then again, maybe he did and that was their answer? 

Why would it be better if he retired earlier? To me it's obvious he was trying and trying hard to return. Just his body didn't cooperate. He made it as far as his body let him make it. How would retiring without even trying to heal make it any better? What would the "he's a quitter" crowd say then? 

 

He didn't retire in the early off-season because he didn't even think about retiring in the early off-season. A freaking calf strain extended for 4-5 months and went down to his Achilles, ankle and all sorts of bones it seems. I have no reason to doubt what he says (that the first time he started thinking about it was about 2 weeks ago). 

[Breeze 67]

The reaction of this and other sites just shows how incredibly important these athletes are to people.  A person’s overall happiness for a week or even an entire off season can be impacted by whether their team wins or loses.  The connection we feel to our superstars can rival that of our families (I’m sure more so to a lot of people!), so if they leave prematurely, it stings.  While I hate the fact our fans booed him off the field, they’re human too, so I think they deserve a temporary pass.  If our significant other would abruptly leave, telling us they’re mentally drained, I doubt that we would thank them for all the good times as they exited.

[DraftMaster 708]

27 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Saw this on my news feed.

 

Would you guys think less of me if I admitted that I shed a few tears?

 

 

Not at all. A lot of us did...

[strt182 330]

Here it is 

 

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Dearest mother — The quill has never felt more heavy. I have made the decision to holster my sidearm permanently. I shall battle no more. The decision is difficult, but, as the hogs taught me, I must be true to myself. I am coming home to care for you and the farm. — Andrew

 

 

[brownsfan4life 39]

As an outsider its just shocking but I understand who wants to be rehabbing and going through pain for going on 5 years. 

 

As far as people getting mad at the timing. I don't get it he wasn't injured until minicamp I think.  He tried to rehab and it wasn't getting better.  So he was going to play hurt for another year?

 

It wasn't going to get better playing on it with the possibility if injuring it worse see KD. 

 

The guy has made 100 mil in his career its his life to live it sucks for the colts.  But the way it was going even if he was playing the next couple years it was more than likely going to be injury riddled under performing seasons.

[csmopar 8,615]

1 minute ago, brownsfan4life said:

As an outsider its just shocking but I understand who wants to be rehabbing and going through pain for going on 5 years. 

 

As far as people getting mad at the timing. I don't get it he wasn't injured until minicamp I think.  He tried to rehab and it wasn't getting better.  So he was going to play hurt for another year?

 

It wasn't going to get better playing on it with the possibility if injuring it worse see KD. 

 

The guy has made 100 mil in his career its his life to live it sucks for the colts.  But the way it was going even if he was playing the next couple years it was more than likely going to be injury riddled under performing seasons.

Gotta ask, how hard was it watching those 0-16 and similar seasons for the better part of 2 decades? Gotta get prepared for that

[MTC 6,193]

[ricker182 1,110]

2 minutes ago, MTC said:

I'm definitely in the last stage.    

 

I went through them all.  

  

That was quick.  

  

Well maybe I'm in the depression phase.  

Idk.  

Send help.