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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Here’s an interesting scenario, do we now look at making a trade offer for Zeke? Not that I am for it nor suggesting we should but is this a move one looks at now if your Ballard or do you stay the course

I was thinking the same thing. Transition to a ground and pound team. We obviously need to do something here. 

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5 minutes ago, csmopar said:

A past prime Peyton is still better than 30 other QBs...

If you thought Peyton was a starting caliber QB that season they won the super bowl I don't know what to tell you.

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Man, some people take football way too seriously.  If his love of the game has waned then he did the right thing. You can’t play QB in the nfl if your heart isn't in it.

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Oof, hearing Chris say he didn't envision this (about Luck retiring) and just the look on his face...

I really hope he means what he says about the team being more than Luck. Because that was the one time tonight where I thought he looked just about devastated.

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Just now, esmort said:

 

Can't do that, may need the the ammunition to trade up for QB.

We don’t even have that ammo as we speak. And your assuming there’s gonna be a decent one there to trade up for. 

Just now, Colts1324 said:

I was thinking the same thing. Transition to a ground and pound team. We obviously need to do something here. 

We don’t need to do anything at that position but I get your point 

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2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

In about 24 hours, that name should be banned from the forum along with Josh McDaniels. 

Poppy *!

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I'm expecting JB to be better than he was when Pagano was here. 2 years in this offensive system and a ton of weapons.  He looked better against the blitz in the Browns game.  His toughness I don't question in the least.  Before we got him from the Pats I thought he could be a big time QB, but after watching numerous games under Pagano I got more of a feeling that his ceiling was just average or worse.  A somewhat unfair assessment considering the circumstances under which we acquired his services.  Plus he didn't have much experience.  The story is a little bit different this time around so it will be interesting to see how much improvement he shows.

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Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Oof, hearing Chris say he didn't envision this (about Luck retiring) and just the look on his face...

I really hope he means what he says about the team being more than Luck. Because that was the one time tonight where I thought he looked just about devastated.

Yeah. I think they thought with this team and Luck, they had a shot at a deep run

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9 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Luck was good but not really great in my opinion.  He never got over his turn over problems and made too many ill advised throws at times for someone of his stature.  I'm sorry to see him go.  But I  don't think he was so good that the Colts will never be able to bounce back from his departure.  What this means is the Colts are no longer Super Bowl contenders this year.  They still have a shot of being a playoff team if Jacoby and/or Swag Kelly can step up.  The overall roster talent is better than it has been in years thanks to Ballard.  

At this point they are not getting anybody better than Jacoby.  Hope Colt fans can accept that.  

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2 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

If you thought Peyton was a starting caliber QB that season they won the super bowl I don't know what to tell you.

He was still more effective than Luck is gonna be this year haha

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Just now, csmopar said:

Yeah. I think they thought with this team and Luck, they had a shot at a deep run


Yeah. I just really hope this doesn't have a ripple effect. Like (worst case scenario) Reich calling it quits after the season because he's not exactly the youngest HC in the world, and Ballard trying to find a better opportunity elsewhere.

Yeah...I'm in full on wondering how bad this can get mode hah

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4 minutes ago, mahagga73 said:

I feel bad for those guys.  Must be like getting jilted on your wedding night by the love of your life.  

Irsay looks pitiful.  Poor guy.  

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Incredibly selfish timing.  It should be unnecessary to point out he could and should have made this decision 8 months ago.  Andrew Luck’s body was not made to survive in the NFL arena.

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

We have some classy guys.

 

 

He’s got more class than I would have, I’ll admit that

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Just now, csmopar said:

We don’t even have that ammo as we speak. And your assuming there’s gonna be a decent one there to trade up for. 

We don’t need to do anything at that position but I get your point 

 

I don't know who will emerge as QB for next draft, where we will be picking, etc ... but I am not giving up big draft currency for a RB with the QB position complete ???. 

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1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


Yeah. I just really hope this doesn't have a ripple effect. Like (worst case scenario) Reich calling it quits after the season because he's not exactly the youngest HC in the world, and Ballard trying to find a better opportunity elsewhere.

Yeah...I'm in full on wondering how bad this can get mode hah

If that happens, they may as well just move out of Indy

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1 minute ago, krunk said:

I'm expecting JB to be better than he was when Pagano was here. 2 years in this offensive system and a ton of weapons.  He looked better against the blitz in the Browns game.  His toughness I don't question in the least.  Before we got him from the Pats I thought he could be a big time QB, but after watching numerous games under Pagano I got more of a feeling that his ceiling was just average or worse.  A somewhat unfair assessment considering the circumstances under which we acquired his services.  Plus he didn't have much experience.  The story is a little bit different this time around. 

I think he can be a bit better than average . The coaching is better , the talent is better.  For the first time in a long time the Colts are going to have to build around something other than the QB.  

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The team was Peyton Manning ready last season. I don't care what the NFL got against Colin Kaepernick but we need him right now cuz we need to win now! I'm not asking, that's an order. Aaaaggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

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1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


Yeah. I just really hope this doesn't have a ripple effect. Like (worst case scenario) Reich calling it quits after the season because he's not exactly the youngest HC in the world, and Ballard trying to find a better opportunity elsewhere.

Yeah...I'm in full on wondering how bad this can get mode hah

I just hope the rest of the team doesn't lay down for the season.

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Just now, esmort said:

 

I don't know who will emerge as QB for next draft, where we will be picking, etc ... but I am not giving up big draft currency for a RB with the QB position complete ???. 

I agree 

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12 minutes ago, Colts Fan In L.A. said:

I'm stunned and heartbroken 

Yeah, I've never felt this way in my enemies life. It genuinely feels like finding out a close friend just got hit by a bus or something. 

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19 minutes ago, krunk said:

Do we even think Jacoby Brisett is Nick Foles?  That is now the question at hand. We got a good team but I'm not totally sure he's as good as Foles. 

 

We'll know very soon huh? 

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2 minutes ago, krunk said:

I just hope the rest of the team doesn't lay down for the season.


I agree man. You'd like to think they won't, that they'll rally. But these guys are Andrew Luck fans too and were hyped to play with him. Could take the wind out of the sails.

Luckily, Jacoby seems to be a locker room favorite too. But you never know.

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Ok life will go on …….. My family is large and full of generations of MASSIVE football fans...….I am getting what I can only classify as condolence phone calls from my family members …..This is only a sport folks.....There are kids out there fighting cancer …...Life will go on .

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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

If that happens, they may as well just move out of Indy

oh the sky is falling "chicken little"

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3 minutes ago, csmopar said:

He’s got more class than I would have, I’ll admit that

Colt players would be well advised to lay off commentary about the fans lest they stink this year.  Could bite them in the butt. 

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7 minutes ago, BOTT said:

Man, some people take football way too seriously.  If his love of the game has waned then he did the right thing. You can’t play QB in the nfl if your heart isn't in it.

 

Thank YOU!

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7 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We are about to see how good Of a leader EE can be. This is classy.

 

 

Well I guess his teammates took this better than most of us. 

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1 minute ago, Colts1324 said:

Yeah, I've never felt this way in my enemies life. It genuinely feels like finding out a close friend just got hit by a bus or something. 

I have had this experience so many times in my life this is old hat

 

 

     Believe it will get better

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2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We have some classy guys.

 

 

Money makes everything easier.     Glad he was booed for the absolutely inexcusable way this multi-millionaire left everyone out to dry.   He knows he never really has to work another day in his life.  Must be nice.

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8 minutes ago, esmort said:

 

Can't do that, may need the the ammunition to trade up for QB.

 

For who..? I wouldn't want Tua or Herbert..

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Just now, horseshoecrabs said:

oh the sky is falling "chicken little"

I was being a smart butt... the odds of Reich leaving and Ballard leaving and the Colts leaving Indy are, well about as much as me walking to the moon tonight

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4 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


Yeah. I just really hope this doesn't have a ripple effect. Like (worst case scenario) Reich calling it quits after the season because he's not exactly the youngest HC in the world, and Ballard trying to find a better opportunity elsewhere.

Yeah...I'm in full on wondering how bad this can get mode hah

 

Yes there is pretty bad possibilities. 

 

But do you really see Ballard bailing on the work he's done here thus far anytime soon? He's still making millions. He's moved his family here. He's got a great coaching staff and has put together a good roster in a short time that makes him look like a genius. If JB can win with this team and we can move forward behind him, Ballard could continue building this roster right and end up in Canton. It's THAT kind of opportunity for him. 

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1 minute ago, HOF19 said:

Ok life will go on …….. My family is large and full of generations of MASSIVE football fans...….I am getting what I can only classify as condolence phone calls from my family members …..This is only a sport folks.....There are kids out there fighting cancer …...Life will go on .

Great post

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13 minutes ago, HOF19 said:

CSMOPAR all summer long I had a uneasy feeling about this situation with Luck like something was coming down the pike and I always wondered if I was the only Colt's fan feeling that ….Kinda like the story we where getting all summer seemed just a bit grey area-ish or was it just me ?

Nope not just you. I had a bad feeling when I 1st heard about the calf injury and nothing I heard since that time made me feel hopeful for the season. I thought it would be another "down year" and that I'll just plug along and hope for the future.

 

Just going to plug along and hope Reich can work his magic with Jacoby (or Kelly). What else can we do? As a fan I'm not going anywhere. Any anger I feel is directed to those formerly in the organization whose nonsense decisions cut short a promising career.

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1 minute ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Money makes everything easier.     Glad he was booed for the absolutely inexcusable way this multi-millionaire left everyone out to dry.   He knows he never really has to work another day in his life.  Must be nice.

get over it

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1 minute ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

Yes there is pretty bad possibilities. 

 

But do you really see Ballard bailing on the work he's done here thus far anytime soon? He's still making millions. He's moved his family here. He's got a great coaching staff and has put together a good roster in a short time that makes him look like a genius. If JB can win with this team and we can move forward behind him, Ballard could continue building this roster right and end up in Canton. It's THAT kind of opportunity for him. 

 

Of course, I'm the eternal optimist here... so the blinders are on full strength tonight my friends. 

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18 minutes ago, csmopar said:

 

“The toughest challenge of a leader is to keep your people motivated and together in the darkest hours of the darkest days” General Taylor, 101st Airborne Division Commander, Jan 1945

 

 

Jacoby will fully be tested now

I gotta say, a bit of me wondered if he’d make it all season before IR. But I did not see this one coming at all. 

Good point. It was no sure thing he was playing that much anyway.  

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