Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Caleb3502

Gil Brandt: Most, Least Enviable QB Situations in 2019

Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, Caleb3502 said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001043284/article/ranking-nfls-most-least-enviable-quarterback-situations-in-19

 

Colts come in with the 6th best QB situation.  Titans, Patriots, Saints, Giants, Chiefs are the top 5 respectively.  I think our QB situation is better than the Titans and Giants.  

 

I'm drawing a blank. Who is the Pats' backup QB? Or the Chiefs' backup? I guess I should click on the article. 

 

I think the Saints have the best. But I'm biased. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Gil Brandt hadn't proven himself to be one of the top football talent evaluators over the last 59 years, and a Hall of Fame inductee because of it, I'd snicker at this too. However, count me as one slightly raised eyebrow perplexed.

 

I guess this shows he loves Brady and Mahomes, feels Luck and Mariota are too frail with Tannehill being better than  Brissett.  I am with him that Daniel Jones can be good and has lit a new fire under Eli Manning (who I think will show a nice rebound this year while teaching Jones the ropes).

 

It's just an article.  Still, it's not one from an unknown blogger.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

titans at number 1 is a joke, i would take ours in a landslide over theirs.  they should be about middle of the pack.  

 

he must be really high on Daniel jones to have the giants that high, i dont know much about him 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/22/2019 at 9:43 PM, NFLfan said:

 

I'm drawing a blank. Who is the Pats' backup QB? Or the Chiefs' backup? I guess I should click on the article. 

 

I think the Saints have the best. But I'm biased. 

 

Jarret Stidham, and Brian Hoyer.  It will be highly interesting to see what BB does...  recently he more often has only kept 2, with exceptions (IE: Garoppolo and Brissett for one).  He once kept 4, and the 4th stringer made #2 (backup) next season, and supplanted the #1 later and has become arguably the best QB ever to play.

 

Ironically, Hoyer is the guy who made Belichick comfortable enough to go to only 2 QB's, and now Stidham might phase out Hoyer for that spot.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/wholl-be-tom-bradys-backup-a-quarterback-controversy-may-be-brewing-with-patriots/

 

 

 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, aaron11 said:

titans at number 1 is a joke, i would take ours in a landslide over theirs.  they should be about middle of the pack.  

 

he must be really high on Daniel jones to have the giants that high, i dont know much about him 

I respect Gill Brandt but I agree, Titans aren't even top 10. He is way off with that one IMO.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

Jarret Stidham, and Brian Hoyer.  It will be highly interesting to see what BB does...  recently he more often has only kept 2, with exceptions (IE: Garoppolo and Brissett for one).  He once kept 4, and the 4th stringer made #2 (backup) next season, and supplanted the #1 later and has become arguably the best QB ever to play.

 

Ironically, Hoyer is the guy who made Belichick comfortable enough to go to only 2 QB's, and now Stidham might phase out Hoyer for that spot.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/wholl-be-tom-bradys-backup-a-quarterback-controversy-may-be-brewing-with-patriots/

 

I like the Eagles backup QB situation. I'm a big fan of Josh McCown. I would want him as a coach.

 

I don't like my QB situation. I recall that you liked Mannion coming out of college. (How do I remember that! Lol) I recall that you wanted the Colts to draft him to develop him. I think he will be our backup but I like Kyle Sloter better. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I respect Gill Brandt but I agree, Titans aren't even top 10. He is way off with that one IMO.

 

Yeah, I am halfway down that road, yet I realize

 

Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Robert Griffin III, Nick Foles. and Ryan Tannehill.  Same draft class. If you're not Luck or Wilson (or sometimes Cousins and Foles), you get overlooked. Because they aren't as good as Luck/Wilson. But they are still around while other QB's fade off the NFL map.

Ryan had bad spots but he was much better than Bortles, IMHO.

 

Tannehill_rollout.gif

 

Bottom 5 and other mediocre QB's can't make plays like this. (55 yards in the air going left on the run!)

 

Both Marcus and Ryan are both underrated as well  because of a few bad spots + injuries.  But I don't think they are near #1.  On a good day, maybe top 10.

 

As far as JB, he doesn't have a big body of work, and what he had  was average at best.  People blame the team, but then you have to do same for Tannehill/Dolphins, Mariota/Titans too.

 

Tannehill or Tyrod Taylor may be the best backups, IMHO,  Fitzmagic (if Rosen is starter) in the mix with JB. Below them are Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Mullens, and Case Keenum.  Then it drops off to the new unproven...  Daniel Jones, Josh Rosen, Drew Lock, Nate Sudfeld, and Will Grier.{EDIT: Mannion?} ..  then  the  career journeymen hanging on.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
38 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

I like the Eagles backup QB situation. I'm a big fan of Josh McCown. I would want him as a coach.

 

I don't like my QB situation. I recall that you liked Mannion coming out of college. (How do I remember that! Lol) I recall that you wanted the Colts to draft him to develop him. I think he will be our backup but I like Kyle Sloter better. 

 

I did, for a pro set, pocket passing schemed offense.  Not sure how he fit on those other teams and what kind of development he got.  But I'd take him #3 after JB.  Maybe even over Chad Kelly, not sure there. So he will take the #2 spot on the Vikes, you think?

 

McCown is a mentor type guy.  Probably for Sudfeld once he returns.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/22/2019 at 5:24 PM, Caleb3502 said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001043284/article/ranking-nfls-most-least-enviable-quarterback-situations-in-19

 

Colts come in with the 6th best QB situation.  Titans, Patriots, Saints, Giants, Chiefs are the top 5 respectively.  I think our QB situation is better than the Titans and Giants.  

I wonder where he ranks the colts now

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/25/2019 at 1:36 PM, King Colt said:

I'm luvin' me some Chad Kelly.

Why. Love the way he torched 3rd stringers??

 

Chad Kelly wins the Blake Bortles pre-season MVP 

  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/25/2019 at 11:41 AM, jvan1973 said:

I wonder where he ranks the colts now

 

He likes Jacoby, and heard him on his radio show last night he thinks Colts are still a possible 9 - 7 team with JB.  He is not enamored with what is behind JB at this time.  And his rankings were the #1 and #2 combo.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, IndySouthsider said:

Why. Love the way he torched 3rd stringers??

 

Chad Kelly wins the Blake Bortles pre-season MVP 

What would you have him do, go 0-13 attempts?! Maybe lead the Colts to a preseason SB ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/23/2019 at 9:17 AM, ColtsBlueFL said:

If Gil Brandt hadn't proven himself to be one of the top football talent evaluators over the last 59 years, and a Hall of Fame inductee because of it, I'd snicker at this too. However, count me as one slightly raised eyebrow perplexed.

 

I guess this shows he loves Brady and Mahomes, feels Luck and Mariota are too frail with Tannehill being better than  Brissett.  I am with him that Daniel Jones can be good and has lit a new fire under Eli Manning (who I think will show a nice rebound this year while teaching Jones the ropes).

 

It's just an article.  Still, it's not one from an unknown blogger.

His crystal ball is pretty impressive for not putting the Colts higher. He would have egg on his face for sure had he made them his top pick!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Vikings have one of the least enviable QB situations -- Kirk Cousins and backup Sean Mannion.

 

I'm a patient fan and like continuity. I have been mostly happy with my GM's approach to team building except when it comes to QBs. They value drafting players and developing them rather than signing high-priced free agents. Except when it comes to QBs. They have drafted only one QB since Zimmer was hired. New England is winning Super Bowls nearly every year and they draft QBs every other year or so. The Vikings should be doing the same; otherwise they will continue to overspend on over-priced QBs.

 

Anyway, hopefully they draft a QB high next year no matter what happens this season. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

The Vikings have one of the least enviable QB situations -- Kirk Cousins and backup Sean Mannion.

 

I'm a patient fan and like continuity. I have been mostly happy with my GM's approach to team building except when it comes to QBs. They value drafting players and developing them rather than signing high-priced free agents. Except when it comes to QBs. They have drafted only one QB since Zimmer was hired. New England is winning Super Bowls nearly every year and they draft QBs every other year or so. The Vikings should be doing the same; otherwise they will continue to overspend on over-priced QBs.

 

Anyway, hopefully they draft a QB high next year no matter what happens this season. 

I guess taking Captain Kirk in my 12 team Fantasy League is out of the question :funny:

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, NFLfan said:

They have drafted only one QB since Zimmer was hired. New England is winning Super Bowls nearly every year and they draft QBs every other year or so. The Vikings should be doing the same; otherwise they will continue to overspend on over-priced QBs.

 

Anyway, hopefully they draft a QB high next year no matter what happens this season. 

 

I think you know I've been a fan of spending a 3rd round pick every few years on a developmental future starter that is your current backup.  And Insurance policy.  Folks were against it citing Luck is all we need and to fill holes with the picks.  Then luck suffered major injuries and missed lots of games over the years. 

 

We had to trade an underperforming 1st rd WR for a3rd QB, that had no time to learn the system, nor had protection.  I expect JB to be so much better, and like Ballard is really looking to find the best backup QB's for short and long term.

 

Best of Luck to Minnesota, and Cousins to putting on a winning form, not just stats.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Sadly, knowing only what we know now  ... we have JB, the Bengals will likely have Burrow, Lions will have Stafford back .... I wouldn't feel confident about any of those games. 
    • If the odds are stated to be 19% if we win out , why would that increase if we beat the Saints ? Other words , if we win out .. it's a 19% chance. It doesn't "increase" if we win Monday.
    • That may be true to an extent ... but if he skips on a QB that's available at one of our top couple picks and instead roles with JB and some mid-round QB and the Colts are mediocre again while the skipped QB goes onto be Very Good or Elite his legacy is cemented.  The only way his legacy/reputation recovers from that is if he finds an equally good QB the next draft or JB leads us to a SB (just typing the second option made me ).
    • I see some posts in this thread that would make it seem that way... I am definitely not, just want to point that out, haha! I even said in my first post on here that I could care less about the Pats fans. But I was agreeing with @King Colt ‘s OP that it did come off as rude when the fans booed, given that  team has given NE so many championships. I feel “meh” about the calls that didn’t go their way, don’t really care if this is the beginning of their downward spiral. I just didn’t expect the fans to boo and when they did my initial reaction was, wow, after all those championships? That’s rude. Not that they are the worst in the world, but definitely hypocritical if those same fans were criticizing those that booed Luck.    However, I also said I understood why they were booing, out of shock of seeing that home game winning streak disappear... same as I understood why the fans booed out of shock of hearing about Luck’s retirement. But sympathy for the Pats? Or their fans? Nah... never! 
    • You are jumping to inaccurate conclusions.  The the options in the poll were worded badly and some options were left out which skewed the results.  It could easily be interpreted as people think JB is average - below average but there aren't many better options so we are stuck with him until we are able to draft his replacement or something unlikely/crazy happens and a good QB actually hits FA.       Cut him and keep looking.  I would rather be terrible a couple years and be in position to go after top QBs until we find one, than finish 8-8 (give or take a game) and be stuck at mediocre.      See above ... at least we know and can move on and aren't stuck in mediocrity... and if they play that bad than we likely have a shot at Lawrence. I would be fine with a one win season if it meant we got Lawrence in 2021. 
  • Members

    • esmort

      esmort 1,596

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • TheMiz

      TheMiz 165

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Fluke_33

      Fluke_33 1,009

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Greyghost80

      Greyghost80 0

      Rookie
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • runthepost

      runthepost 812

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • RollerColt

      RollerColt 1,586

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Tsarquise

      Tsarquise 821

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • HectorRoberts

      HectorRoberts 643

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • HarryTheCat

      HarryTheCat 820

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Coltsman1788

      Coltsman1788 3,394

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...