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Just now, MB-ColtsFan said:

Well, we know both those guys are capable runners, so...gee...I wonder where the problem lies??  Hmm...

I know it is the preseason but if this continues in the regular season Reich will have to answer. I assume luck back will help with some of the issues.

I think rock is showing he is still a rookie. He isn’t ready yet.

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11 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Well, we know both those guys are capable runners, so...gee...I wonder where the problem lies??  Hmm...

New scheme. If this running game fails, it is all on Reich. He made a coaching change. It sometimes takes a good half of a season for a D and/or and O to get use to a new scheme.  Let's c what happens

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5 minutes ago, Malakai432 said:

I wouldn't worry too much about the running game at this point.  I feel like the plays are incredibly vanilla.  Now if they come out in the first 2-3 regular season games and run for a total of 150 yards or so I'll start to get extremely worried lol.  

Running  isn't  our strength  anyway.  Going to need another good rb at some point

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