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Collins is injured. I think that is the only injury so far tonight. He walked off the field ok.

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Interesting that they played Collins ALL game.  Strictly evaluation purposes or could he be trade bait?

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

I find it interesting that Brissett job was to target DF. Walkers job was to get it to Cain. Kelly’s job was to get it Fountain. That is why these games are meaningless. They don’t even go to their second read.

Pre-season is fun because football is back but it is meaningless. We lost 24-16, no biggy. I want to keep an eye on Luck's health more than anything as the month plays out. Also hope nobody else gets injured.

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Just now, Smoke317 said:

Interesting that they played Collins ALL game.  Strictly evaluation purposes or could he be trade bait?

Trade bait or on the bubble. Everytime colts media posts a receiver having a good play Collins is always the one getting beat.

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Trade bait or on the bubble. Everytime colts media posts a receiver having a good play Collins is always the one getting beat.

Yeah. Because Rock is looking like another Ballard gem that’s gonna give immediate impact.  Did Hairston play tonight?

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

I need to see Phillips play with the first team.

 

 

He had himself quite the game though!

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Just now, Smoke317 said:

Yeah. Because Rock is looking like another Ballard gem that’s gonna give immediate impact.  Did Hairston play tonight?

Yes I think so. Interesting that it seems to be Collins they are taking a good look at.

 

That Taylor kid is really good in the slot also.

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5 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

Interesting that they played Collins ALL game.  Strictly evaluation purposes or could he be trade bait?

Evaluation purposes. He hasn't played for an entire year so they want to get him out there and see what he has.

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Just now, ColtsBlitz said:

He had himself quite the game though!

Yes I would just like to see him up against the first team offense to see if he is for real.

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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Yes I would just like to see him up against the first team offense to see if he is for real.

We’ve seen some preseason Hall of Famers before.  Lol. Remember Rayford?  And I really loved TY McGgill.

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4 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

Yeah. Because Rock is looking like another Ballard gem that’s gonna give immediate impact.  Did Hairston play tonight?

NH had 4 Ts, 2 solo

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I thought this last year with Badgley, and now I feel like it's gonna happen with Hedlund...but it's gonna suck if/when Vinny retires and we have trouble finding an efficient kicker.

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Just now, Irish YJ said:

NH had 4 Ts, 2 solo

Hmmm.  I really don’t remember seeing him.  Don’t know if that’s good or bad.

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Just now, Smoke317 said:

Hmmm.  I really don’t remember seeing him.  Don’t know if that’s good or bad.


He was out there early in the 1st quarter. I noticed because I didn't expect to see him that early. He played pretty well honestly.

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3 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I thought this last year with Badgley, and now I feel like it's gonna happen with Hedlund...but it's gonna suck if/when Vinny retires and we have trouble finding an efficient kicker.

AV is injured again. It would not be a shocked if he decides to retire and we keep this kid.

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

AV is injured again. It would not be a shocked if he decides to retire and we keep this kid.


Such an unpopular opinion here...but if AV is truly hurt (especially the groin that bothered him last year) and Hedlund further proves to be a good kicker, then I wouldn't be too upset.

I'd be surprised though.

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Kelly moved the chains, better QBR, and should get a promotion to 3rd QB over Walker. 

 

Speed looks like a keeper! Fountain really took advantage of the targets/snaps. Phillips needs to get some snaps upstream.

 

Overall, disappointed with the O in the first half. The D was a mixed bag. 

 

My vid stream sucked, so looking forward to watching it on the DVR/replay on the NFL Network. Thank goodness for the radio stream.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

We’ve seen some preseason Hall of Famers before.  Lol. Remember Rayford?  And I really loved TY McGgill.

That is why I would like to see him at the start of the game.

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4 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


He was out there early in the 1st quarter. I noticed because I didn't expect to see him that early. He played pretty well honestly.

Good to hear.  Him and Collins could be battling for those last couple CB spots.

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6 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I thought this last year with Badgley, and now I feel like it's gonna happen with Hedlund...but it's gonna suck if/when Vinny retires and we have trouble finding an efficient kicker.

 

I feel you... 

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2 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:

He isn’t playing.

To be fair he had no TY or Ebron. DF was the only guy he had.

The one thing I seen was pressure pressure pressure and no run game. That’s not helpful to any QB but the question here is would Luck have seen anything differently under the same circumstances? The little we seen JB wasn’t stellar either way imho. Like to be able to evaluate him with full #1s

2 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:

No weapons and a makeshift OL

Oline looked pretty bad. I didn’t notice but did AC play any snaps? 

1 hour ago, CamMo said:

 

Brissett IS an NFL QB. That’s why they haven’t traded him way. We’ve seen him play, and while not great, I never want to see PW take a meaningful snap. :) 

 

As for the former statement, JB isn’t going to net us anything based on what we’ve seen in last season and so far from this game. The silver lining here is we don’t matter and aren’t privy to everything he has done in practices. As for the latter, I’m not sure what affection the team has for PW but he doesn’t appear to meet the minimum criteria for being an average QB whatsoever. 

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I thought Turay looked good in a couple of run plays that surprised me.

AC did not play.

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5 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

Hmmm.  I really don’t remember seeing him.  Don’t know if that’s good or bad.

My stream stunk, but from what I did see, it was good.

 

5 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


He was out there early in the 1st quarter. I noticed because I didn't expect to see him that early. He played pretty well honestly.

very solid

 

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


Such an unpopular opinion here...but if AV is truly hurt (especially the groin that bothered him last year) and Hedlund further proves to be a good kicker, then I wouldn't be upset.

If he's truly hurt, I agree. If not, try and hide Hedlund on the PS.

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1 minute ago, Jdubu said:

The one thing I seen was pressure pressure pressure and no run game. That’s not helpful to any QB but the question here is would Luck have seen anything differently under the same circumstances? The little we seen JB wasn’t stellar either way imho. Like to be able to evaluate him with full #1s

Oline looked pretty bad. I didn’t notice but did AC play any snaps? 

As for the former statement, JB isn’t going to net us anything based on what we’ve seen in last season and so far from this game. The silver lining here is we don’t matter and aren’t privy to everything he has done in practices. As for the latter, I’m not sure what affection the team has for PW but he doesn’t appear to meet the minimum criteria for being an average QB whatsoever. 

Honestly, I don’t think we should have kept Walker over the kid we had from Miami a couple years ago.  At least he would take some shots when he had 1 on 1 on the outside.

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Just now, Irish YJ said:

If he's truly hurt, I agree. If not, try and hide Hedlund on the PS.


Yup. Unfortunately, the Bears will probably be watching Hedlund very closely from here on out.

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Overall, it's just preseason.

 

But we were a great punching bag for the Bills. Their offense got a great workout.

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7 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

AV is injured again. It would not be a shocked if he decides to retire and we keep this kid.

 

I have not seen one source that indicates AV is injured.

 

 

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It will be interesting to see if the colts keep six Wr If fountain or Johnson can beat out Pascal.

 

I hope we get to see Campbell against the browns.

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1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


Yup. Unfortunately, the Bears will probably be watching Hedlund very closely from here on out.

I'm sure every team is digging stats and film on every other team lol. Might be harder to hide Fountain on the PS another year too :-)

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Just now, zibby43 said:

 

I have not seen one source that indicates AV is injured.

 

 

It has been stated in the notebooks from training camp he has a undisclosed injury.

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1 minute ago, Irish YJ said:

I'm sure every team is digging stats and film on every other team lol. Might be harder to hide Fountain on the PS another year too :-)


Totally agreed on Fountain. Each catch he made I thought, okay, maybe he should make the roster over Pascal. Especially if he keeps performing.

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

It will be interesting to see if the colts keep six Wr If fountain or Johnson can beat out Pascal.

 

I hope we get to see Campbell against the browns.

I think it will depend mostly on injuries at other positions, especially to starters. The healthy we are at 1st and 2nd team depth (other positions), the more likely we can "indulge" with WR.

Ideally it would be great to carry 6 for at least the first 3-4 games until things settle in both at WR and in returns.

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I liked what I saw from Grover Stewart at times. I know there have been some social media talk highly of him, cutting down and what not.

 

I just really like the young defensive line Ballard is putting together. Muhammad (24), Turay (24) Lewis (24) Ward (25) Stewart (25).. Phillips is 26 and looked good tonight. Interested to see if leads to anything for him. Ballard has added these solid understudies that bring competition to help elevate that unit and the depth, and i think we'll start seeing the dividends very soon... especially with how the back end of the defense is coming along. This scheme is built for a strong defensive line. We need it if we are going to take another step towards a championship. Put everything else aside. We need this defensive line to penetrate and put pressure/make plays. That's the money maker that makes everything else just fall into place. 

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10 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

It will be interesting to see if the colts keep six Wr If fountain or Johnson can beat out Pascal.

 

I hope we get to see Campbell against the browns.

I think Fountain is ahead of Pascal as of now.  I think it’ll be easier to find another Pascal.  No way Fountain makes it to a practice squad.  Dude looks like a physical freak and starting to make plays.

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11 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

It has been stated in the notebooks from training camp he has a undisclosed injury.

 

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.  Is this what you're referring to?

 

https://www.colts.com/news/2019-coltscamp-notebook-day-11-putting-in-final-preparations-for-bills

 

Surprised none of the other beat writers have investigated this further.

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53 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Poor Cain got stuck with Walker.

 

 

 Next game hopefully we get to see TY, DF, Cain and Fountain together with an oline and a QB that’s accurate, whether it be JB or CK. 

37 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

I find it interesting that Brissett job was to target DF. Walkers job was to get it to Cain. Kelly’s job was to get it Fountain. That is why these games are meaningless. They don’t even go to their second read.

Is this something that was said in a press conference? That is interesting if so. 

29 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

Yeah. Because Rock is looking like another Ballard gem that’s gonna give immediate impact.  Did Hairston play tonight?

NH did play and the little I seen of him, it wasn’t very good at all. 

21 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:


He was out there early in the 1st quarter. I noticed because I didn't expect to see him that early. He played pretty well honestly.

We see his play differently. I was thinking after seeing the little of him I did that it wouldn’t be tough on cuts if he continued that sort of play. I only got to see first half and not every play either. 

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