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Jordan Wilkins vs Spencer Ware

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I'm not even going to discuss Jonathan Williams because i believe he will be released after preseason and maybe be placed on the practice squad. However i do not see us carrying 4 running backs this season so i'm hoping that Jordan Wilkins brings his A game because i really like the effort he puts into his runs. Although that being said Spencer ware brings a different run style to our offense that i also admire so only time will tell which one comes out on top

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 If our top 4 RB's are healthy at final cut time i bet all of them are on the opening game roster. 
 
 

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This is a great question

 

A couple of thoughts

 

I always liked his vision (college and rookie season)

 

He has gained some weight 15ish pounds since the end of last year

(Hopefully it isnt latenight McDonalds)

 

He blocks well

 

He averaged 5.6 yards PC

 

He didnt shine when he started last year (Our OLINE wasnt together early)

 

He isnt explosive as Mack, but I believe his vision is a little better

 

I think he may get into more of the rotation this year

 

Ware and he will have a dogfight for playing time

 

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wilkins is probably going to be on the bubble, and we might have to cut a good player somewhere 

 

the CB, WR and TE groups are crowded too.  fwiw i think ajayi would be a good addition, and better than any RB on the team now besides mack

 

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11 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

wilkins is probably going to be on the bubble, and we might have to cut a good player somewhere 

 

the CB, WR and TE groups are crowded too.  fwiw i think ajayi would be a good addition, and better than any RB on the team now besides mack

 

I'm not on the Ajayi bandwagon. If he took what the defense gave him he'd be a more productive runner. Adam Gase grew tired of Ajayi's act and shipped him off while with the Phins. 

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34 minutes ago, Matthew Gilbert said:

I'm not on the Ajayi bandwagon. If he took what the defense gave him he'd be a more productive runner. Adam Gase grew tired of Ajayi's act and shipped him off while with the Phins. 

leaving miami was the best thing that has happened to him.  he left one of the worst teams in the league and got sent to the best at the time and won a super bowl.  the gase era in miami was a strange time. the team was terrible by most accounts, its kind of amazing they won as many games as they did 

 

 

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We will keep 4 RBs. It’s the TE/WR cuts that are going to be painful. Gonna lose a good player with that group. Can the team afford to go with 3 TEs and 6 WRs? Or will it be 4TEs and 5 WRs? 

What to watch: Doyle’s health and whether Campbell can grab the returner’s job from Rogers. 

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17 minutes ago, Hoose said:

We will keep 4 RBs. It’s the TE/WR cuts that are going to be painful. Gonna lose a good player with that group. Can the team afford to go with 3 TEs and 6 WRs? Or will it be 4TEs and 5 WRs? 

What to watch: Doyle’s health and whether Campbell can grab the returner’s job from Rogers. 

You took the words out of my keyboard. Agree 100%! :)

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Dont be surprised if Wilkins plays a big role in 2019 Mack and Ware have missed time.

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Obviously a lot can happen between now and the regular season, but I think Wilkins is on this team in September.  I think it will be more a question of is Spencer Ware going to show enough in camp and pre-season for the Colts to carry him as a 4th RB.  I think Wilkins is safe whether they keep 3 or 4 RBs.  

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I believe Wilkins will beat out Ware and force to FO's hand to choose between Ware and a 4th TE or 6th WR.

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I have listened to Ballard and I think he genuinely believes Williams has a legit shot to make it.  When the last cuts come, I think a surprise cut is Ware.

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I'd bet a pretty decent sum of cash that we keep 4. 

Most teams in the league carry 4 on their 53 man roster.

 

I see Mack as the obvious RB1, Hines as the APB, Ware as the short yardage and RZ guy, and Wilkins as Mack's back up. Keep in mind that Wilkins played 30+% of special teams downs last year, and it wasn't as a return guy. RBs make great special teams guys.

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With the depth we have at cornerback and pass rushers I don't see us keeping 4 runningbacks

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I'm intrigued with both Wilkins being in his 2nd NFL season and

Ware with his size and quickness.

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On 7/12/2019 at 10:36 AM, MikeCurtis said:

This is a great question

 

A couple of thoughts

 

I always liked his vision (college and rookie season)

 

He has gained some weight 15ish pounds since the end of last year

(Hopefully it isnt latenight McDonalds)

 

He blocks well

 

He averaged 5.6 yards PC

 

He didnt shine when he started last year (Our OLINE wasnt together early)

 

He isnt explosive as Mack, but I believe his vision is a little better

 

I think he may get into more of the rotation this year

 

Ware and he will have a dogfight for playing time

 

Where did you hear that he gained 15 lbs? That would put him over 230 if last years weight was correct. Hard for me to imagine him being able to carry that much weight and be able to maintain the shortage of speed he had at 216.

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10 hours ago, hoosierhawk said:

Where did you hear that he gained 15 lbs? That would put him over 230 if last years weight was correct. Hard for me to imagine him being able to carry that much weight and be able to maintain the shortage of speed he had at 216.

He was listed at 201 on his draft day

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On 7/14/2019 at 7:01 AM, MikeCurtis said:

He was listed at 201 on his draft day

His official combine weight was 216lbs

 

201/216/230 it doesn't matter.  I'm not a fan of Wilkins, most of the time he doesn't run hard and when he does run hard he fumbles.

 

But he does have good speed and he will gain all the yards the oline gives him, but he's not going to gain a lot of extra yards or yards after contact. 

 

If Ware is the Ware of 2016 then I think he will beat out Wilkins.  I think though that injuries will have caught up with him though and he won't be the Ware of 2016.

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If Wilkins has a fumble or two in the pre-season, there’s a possibility he could be cut. Fumbles are what cost him snaps last year. Realistically we probably want to keep both of them though.

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I can see Wilkins having an even increased role in 2019, but I will not be shocked if he loose his roster spot to Williams. This will be an interesting battle in the TC. I hope injury will not be a determining factor.

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