A Wild Guess..

[Shadow_Creek 606]

if rookie Marshall Faulk were running behind the offensive line we had last year i would say he'd probably average near 2000 yards rushing due to his after burst and amazing versatility do you agree or disagree?

[Jdubu 1,613]

19 minutes ago, Shadow_Creek said:

if rookie Marshall Faulk were running behind the offensive line we had last year i would say he'd probably average near 2000 yards rushing due to his after burst and amazing versatility do you agree or disagree?

And if we had that same line when Jeff George was here, we would have  it had the chance to get Faulk. 

[Scott Pennock 2,310]

Funny thing about Marshall, and I love his game......he only topped out at like 1300 yards a couple times and had 7 1000 yard seasons (and like like 5-6 under a 1000). He did pull the Roger Craig and have 1000/1000 rushing and receiving one year though.

 

Total scrimmage yards he was a beast.

 

Having said that, I'd love to see pre-horsecollar tackle Edge run behind this line. 

[Jdubu 1,613]

31 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:

Funny thing about Marshall, and I love his game......he only topped out at like 1300 yards a couple times and had 7 1000 yard seasons (and like like 5-6 under a 1000). He did pull the Roger Craig and have 1000/1000 rushing and receiving one year though.

 

Total scrimmage yards he was a beast.

 

Having said that, I'd love to see pre-horsecollar tackle Edge run behind this line. 

Man, edge was as smooth as hot butter running. Had that injury not occurred, wonder what his end stats would have been. He was my favorite player. Wayne being second. 

[CurBeatElite 823]

48 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

Man, edge was as smooth as hot butter running. Had that injury not occurred, wonder what his end stats would have been. He was my favorite player. Wayne being second. 

Edge's first 2 years in the league were the best by a running back in NFL history.  Amazing that he came back from that injury and still had 5 more 1,000 + rushing yard seasons.  Aside from being a great runner and receiver, he was widely considered one of (if not the) top pass blocking back in the league.

 

He deserves HOF very soon.

[2006Coltsbestever 27,250]

Dickerson all-time is a top 5 RB ever. I have:

 

Jim Brown

Emmitt Smith

Walter Payton

Barry Sanders

Eric is #5. 

I would take Tony Dorsett over Faulk. 1995 turned me off from Faulk. We would've won the SB had he played in 95 and he quit - BOOO. 

[Trace Pyott 284]

6 hours ago, CurBeatElite said:

Edge's first 2 years in the league were the best by a running back in NFL history.  Amazing that he came back from that injury and still had 5 more 1,000 + rushing yard seasons.  Aside from being a great runner and receiver, he was widely considered one of (if not the) top pass blocking back in the league.

 

He deserves HOF very soon.

 What do you meAn by his first two years were two of the best ever?  I’m literally asking not trying to doubt you. I’m not a big statistician so I’m kind of unaware where his first two years rate as far as two seasons for a running back. I know he was a beast. Can you clarify what you meant there. I’m genuinely curious and like I said I’m not doubting you or your opinion I just want to learn More about edge and where he ranks among the greats.  

[Fluke_33 1,532]

3 hours ago, Trace Pyott said:

 What do you meAn by his first two years were two of the best ever?  I’m literally asking not trying to doubt you. I’m not a big statistician so I’m kind of unaware where his first two years rate as far as two seasons for a running back. I know he was a beast. Can you clarify what you meant there. I’m genuinely curious and like I said I’m not doubting you or your opinion I just want to learn More about edge and where he ranks among the greats.  

 

He lead the league in rushing as a rookie.  I think he did his second year as well.  But i would bet he meant if you compare his first two years to those of any other rb you would see his standing out.  

[CurBeatElite 823]

2 hours ago, Trace Pyott said:

 What do you meAn by his first two years were two of the best ever?  I’m literally asking not trying to doubt you. I’m not a big statistician so I’m kind of unaware where his first two years rate as far as two seasons for a running back. I know he was a beast. Can you clarify what you meant there. I’m genuinely curious and like I said I’m not doubting you or your opinion I just want to learn More about edge and where he ranks among the greats.  

 

His first two years in the NFL compared to other great RBs' first two years were two of the best ever.  They were both very good seasons, I meant specifically compared to the first two years of other RBs.  I believe Eric Dickerson is the only one who really compared to Edge in terms of his first 2 years in the league.

 

As a rookie he had 1,553 rushing yards along with 62 receptions for 586 yards (2,139 all purpose yards).  In year two he had 1,709 rushing yards along with 63 receptions for 594 yards (2,303 all-purpose yards).  

 

He was First-team All-Pro as a rookie and 2nd-team All-Pro in year two (kind of shocking, as he was better year 2 than year 1).  He led the NFL is rushing in both his rookie year and his 2nd year.

 

He had 13 rushing TDs both years and 4 & 5 receiving TDs respectively (so he averaged over a TD per game).  

 

Some other All-Time greats that got off to a fast start:

 

Adrian Peterson: 1,341 rushing yards 12 TDs, 19 receptions 268 yards 1 TD year 1... 1,760 rushing yards 10 TDs, 21 receptions 125 yards 0 TD year 2.

 

Eric Dickerson: 1,808 rushing yards 18 TDs, 51 receptions 404 yards 2 TD (2,212 all-purpose yards -- slightly better than Edge) year 1.... 2,105 rushing yards 14 TDs, 21 receptions 139 yards 0 TD (2,244 all-purpose yards -- slightly less than Edge) year 2.

 

Barry Sanders: 1,470 rushing yards 14 TDs, 24 receptions 282 yards 0 TDs year 1... 1,304 rushing yards 13 TDs, 36 receptions 480 yards 3 TD year 2.

 

Emmitt Smith: 937 rushing yards 11 TDs, 24 receptions 228 yards 0 TD year 1... 1,563 rushing yards 12 TDs, 49 receptions 258 yards 1 TD year 2.

 

Walter Payton: 679 rushing yards 7 TDs, 33 receptions 233 yards 0 TD year 1.... 1,390 rushing yards 13  TDs, 15 receptions 149 yards 0 TD year 2.

 

LaDanian Tomlinson: 1,236 rushing yards 10 TD, 59 receptions 367 yards 0 TD year 1... 1,683 rushing yards 14 TD, 79 receptions 489 yards 1 TD year 2.

 

I could go on and on, but nobody else is really too close in this discussion as far as 'first two years only.'  Marshall Faulk had slightly less receptions and receiving yards, but was one of a few RBs to have over 50 receptions in both of his first two seasons.

 

Saquon Barkley, if he has a year like last year (1,307 rushing yards 11 TD, 91 receptions 721 yards 4 TD -- 2028 all-purpose yards, 111 yards less than Edge and 174 yards less than Dickerson as rookies) will be in this conversation.

 

Edge should already be in the HOF.  I cannot imagine what his career would have been like had he not gotten horse-collared and blew out his knee.  He was on pace for ~1,800 yards rushing and 64 receptions that year.  He came back the next year and was obviously not full strength and still had 989 yards in just 14 games to go along with 61 receptions.  

 

He was truly one of the greatest backs in NFL history.  I will be shocked if he doesn't get his Gold Jacket next year. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[J@son 7,415]

we do love our droll hypotheticals, don't we? lol

[Jdubu 1,613]

16 hours ago, CurBeatElite said:

Edge's first 2 years in the league were the best by a running back in NFL history.  Amazing that he came back from that injury and still had 5 more 1,000 + rushing yard seasons.  Aside from being a great runner and receiver, he was widely considered one of (if not the) top pass blocking back in the league.

 

He deserves HOF very soon.

Agreed! He is top notch. 

[LockeDown 2,785]

18 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Dickerson all-time is a top 5 RB ever. I have:

 

Jim Brown

Emmitt Smith

Walter Payton

Barry Sanders

Eric is #5. 

I would take Tony Dorsett over Faulk. 1995 turned me off from Faulk. We would've won the SB had he played in 95 and he quit - BOOO. 

Cmon man.  Nobody outside of Dallas thinks Emmett is better than Barry

[2006Coltsbestever 27,250]

2 hours ago, LockeDown said:

Cmon man.  Nobody outside of Dallas thinks Emmett is better than Barry

I do. Barry was electrifying but Emmitt was the better  hard nosed short yardage runner. He won 3 SB's being the main guy, when he sat out 2 games the Cowboys looked lost in 1993. He is also the all-time leading rusher. I can go on and on. You will say he had a great O.Line so need to respond. Rice had Montana and Young but that doesn't take away from his greatness. Actually Barry had a good O.line and never won anything. Give me Emmitt all day.

[jimmy g 567]

22 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Dickerson all-time is a top 5 RB ever. I have:

 

Jim Brown

Emmitt Smith

Walter Payton

Barry Sanders

Eric is #5. 

I would take Tony Dorsett over Faulk. 1995 turned me off from Faulk. We would've won the SB had he played in 95 and he quit - BOOO. 

Lenny Moore was on the NFL All First  50th Anniversary Team with Brown.  (Unitas was that teams QB)  Moore has to be 1st or 2nd!!!!  Yet, most fans here dont even remember him for a Colts top 10!?!?!?!?

[2006Coltsbestever 27,250]

20 minutes ago, jimmy g said:

Lenny Moore was on the NFL All First  50th Anniversary Team with Brown.  (Unitas was that teams QB)  Moore has to be 1st or 2nd!!!!  Yet, most fans here dont even remember him for a Colts top 10!?!?!?!?

He is a Colts top 5 RB easily IMO. You have Edge, Dickerson, Faulk, and then Moore who makes the top 4 actually. I never seen Moore live but have seen him on film and know his stats, etc.. Anyone that doesn't think he is top 10 RB in Colts history is nuts lol. 

[Shadow_Creek 606]

i would have loved to see Mike Hart, Donald brown in his prime Dominique Rhodes and Joseph addai run behind our solid oline. I bet they all would have had amazing rushing stats last year

[shakedownstreet 7,255]

On 6/18/2019 at 11:16 PM, Scott Pennock said:

Funny thing about Marshall, and I love his game......he only topped out at like 1300 yards a couple times and had 7 1000 yard seasons (and like like 5-6 under a 1000). He did pull the Roger Craig and have 1000/1000 rushing and receiving one year though.

 

Total scrimmage yards he was a beast.

 

Having said that, I'd love to see pre-horsecollar tackle Edge run behind this line. 

 

Faulk was a great player, but he was never a pure grind out yards type running back. Edge was.

 

James is a huge part of why the offense exploded in 1999 after we traded Faulk & drafted James. The play action to Edge/ bomb over the top to Harrison was absolutely LETHAL 

[Rally5 675]

On 6/19/2019 at 12:52 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Dickerson all-time is a top 5 RB ever. I have:

 

Jim Brown

Emmitt Smith

Walter Payton

Barry Sanders

Eric is #5. 

I would take Tony Dorsett over Faulk. 1995 turned me off from Faulk. We would've won the SB had he played in 95 and he quit - BOOO. 

The best RB I ever saw was Bo Jackson.  If rating over a career, then no, but if I had to have one guy for one season at his said best....I go Bo!

[2006Coltsbestever 27,250]

1 minute ago, Rally5 said:

The best RB I ever saw was Bo Jackson.  If rating over a career, then no, but if I had to have one guy for one season at his said best....I go Bo!

Had Bo played 10 years he would be there I agree. Too bad he got injured, he was awesome.

[shakedownstreet 7,255]

Just imagine Kenton Keith behind this line!

 

 

[Jdubu 1,613]

On 6/20/2019 at 1:30 AM, Shadow_Creek said:

i would have loved to see Mike Hart, Donald brown in his prime Dominique Rhodes and Joseph addai run behind our solid oline. I bet they all would have had amazing rushing stats last year

Mike Hart would have gained 4200 yards, 68 TD’s and cured cancer behind this oline all while completing his doctorate in engineering, in an online course, during the games. All in a season  

[Rally5 675]

On 6/23/2019 at 1:52 PM, Jdubu said:

Mike Hart would have gained 4200 yards, 68 TD’s and cured cancer behind this oline all while completing his doctorate in engineering, in an online course, during the games. All in a season  

I call nonsense, online courses are hard!