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Vent: 4th quarter comeback stats

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I hate this stat.  It's one of the most worthless, overrated stats in the books.

 

  • If the REASON his team is BEHIND in the 4th quarter is because the QB has been comically inept for the first 3, and FINALLY gets off his behind and puts a good drive together, he still gets credit for the comeback.
  • If he puts together a so-called game-winning drive with, say, 5 minutes on the clock and the defense doesn't let the other team score, he still gets credit for the comeback.
  • If he puts together a so-called game-winning drive with, say, 3 minutes on the clock and the defense DOES let the other team score and re-gain the lead, he DOESN'T get credit for the comeback.
  • If he leads the team to such a big lead at the end of 3 quarters that coming back in the 4th is no longer necessary, he DOESN'T get credit for a comeback.
  • If in the course of the so-called game-winning drive he throws a pass that hits a defender right in the hands but the defender drops it, he still gets credit for a comeback.
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Case in point: Atlanta vs. New England in the Superbowl. Atlanta dramatically changed their game-plan late, allowing New England (more specifically, Tom Brady) to torch them.

 

Teams who are ahead are fine giving up underneath plays, which pads the QB's stats, because the team who is ahead thinks the clock is their worst enemy. Problem is conceding all these underneath pass plays builds momentum in the offense, making them play better.

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7 hours ago, DalTXColtsFan said:

It's one of the most worthless, overrated stats in the books.

 

True.  People just love the drama of it because it's at the end of the game.

 

If you think about it, the last drive of the game doesn't decide the game any more than a drive in the middle of the 2nd quarter.  But people don't remember that perfect 92-yard drive for a TD in the middle of the 2nd quarter, they remember "THE DRIVE" at the end of the 4th quarter that "won" the game.  :dunno:

 

Elway had "The Drive" to beat the Browns 23-20.  But isn't it more impressive what Manning did against the Broncos in the playoffs two years in a row?  In 2003 and 2004, the Colts were beating the Broncos 31-3 and 35-3  at HALFTIME, and ended up winning those games 41-10 and 49-24.  No 4th quarter comebacks needed.  :td:

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Just to throw a wrench in this beautiful discussion, I love a QB that is clutch in the 4th Qtr and love great comebacks. Luck's rookie season was very exciting with his comeback wins. One of my favorite Colts seasons ever. The comeback win vs KC in the playoffs is one of the best games I have ever seen as well.  home improvement work GIF by WIESEMANN 1893

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20 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Luck's rookie season was very exciting with his comeback wins. One of my favorite Colts seasons ever. 

 

His year with Bruce Arians...

 

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It's just like every other stat: It needs context.

 

And just like QB wins: the QB gets more credit and more blame than he really deserves. The team has to get it together to complete a comeback, just like the team has to execute to get a win. (Although, every once in a while there's a game where the QB is outrageously on point and just makes things happen; Kaepernick vs the Packers a few years ago, Vick had some games like that, Rodgers has some, etc.)

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The nfl decides what it will do. You'll never change it. 

 

I don't really care or have problem with it.

 

Atl never changed any gameplan. Their job was to lie down in the second half and they did exactly  as the nfl told them to.  Everyone  took home their million dollar contract pay and went home happy. 

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