Colts have traded DT Hassan Ridgeway to the Eagles [Merge]

[MTC 6,204]

 

[MarquisJ 411]

 

[The Oopty Oop 27]

Always thought he was gonna put it together but never seemed to turn the corner. Good luck in Philly

[Boiler_Colt 3,736]

2nd year in a row they've traded a DT for a 7th rounder.

[VaAllDay757 589]

Hmmmmm interesting

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

Wow

[shastamasta 2,089]

Hmmm...it's a shame he never amounted to anything. Liked him coming out of college. Maybe Ballard is targeting Willis. 

[CR91 9,142]

Makes sense. Ridgeway never seemed to be in Ballard's good graces

[buccolts 3,767]

Wait, so we come out of this draft with one less D-Line than going in?

NCF isn't going to like this.

[Stephen 1,923]

Just now, shastamasta said:

Hmmm...it's a shame he never amounted to anything. Liked him coming out of college. Maybe Ballard is targeting Willis. 

Willis who

[ColtsLegacy 3,998]

Must be targeting a DT with one these picks, right?

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

Just now, Stephen said:

Willis who

I think Todd Bridges is to old

[shastamasta 2,089]

2 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Willis who

 

Willis, Gerald III

[NewColtsFan 19,684]

1 minute ago, buccolts said:

Wait, so we come out of this draft with one less D-Line than going in?

NCF isn't going to like this.

I’ll get over it!   

 

In Ballard I trust! 

 

[Lucky Colts Fan 5,476]

1 minute ago, Stephen said:

Willis who

 

Which Willis you talkin bout?

 

[shastamasta 2,089]

2 minutes ago, ColtsLegacy said:

Must be targeting a DT with one these picks, right?

 

Thinking the same thing. OR he is eyeing a vet via trade/FA.

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

1 minute ago, shastamasta said:

 

Willis, Gerald III

Could be forgot he was still out there

[IinD 2,730]

3 minutes ago, buccolts said:

Wait, so we come out of this draft with one less D-Line than going in?

NCF isn't going to like this.

Is it really down one guy if he wasn't even any good? That's my logic honestly.

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

Just now, IinD said:

Is it really down one guy if he wasn't even any good? That's my logic honestly.

How many games did he dress this year

[Douzer 1,064]

Turned him into an OT. Boom!

[Chloe6124 5,836]

This is not surprising.

[Fluke_33 1,009]

I wish a reporter would ask Ballard  if ridgeway is a better player than a player at 246

[John Hammonds 624]

That leaves only 5 players left from Grigson drafts:

2012 - 1/1  Andrew Luck

2012 - 3/92  T.Y. Hilton

2015 - 4/109 Clayton Geathers

2016 - 1/18  Ryan Kelly

2016 - 3/82 Le'Raven Clark

[shastamasta 2,089]

2 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

That leaves only 5 players left from Grigson drafts:

2012 - 1/1  Andrew Luck

2012 - 3/92  T.Y. Hilton

2015 - 4/109 Clayton Geathers

2016 - 1/18  Ryan Kelly

2016 - 3/82 Le'Raven Clark

 

Honestly, only three of those are on the after next year. Might even be sooner.

[GoColts8818 9,299]

Makes sense he probably was in danger of not making the team.  If you can get something for him so it.

[WoolMagnet 4,067]

18 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Willis who

Whatchu talkin bout Willis ?

[IinD 2,730]

30 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

How many games did he dress this year

I can't lie I honestly don't remember him doing much of anything this year.

 

Im not mad at Ballard for cutting bait. I'd rather that then keeping an inferior player simply because you drafted him.

[dodsworth 1,069]

He was getting cut anyway with absolutely no shot at the 53 player squad.

We may as well get something for his departure.

[Patrick Miller 124]

Inconsistent. Glad we got something for him.

[csmopar 8,697]

Meh seems like it’d been easier to cut him

[Four2itus 3,114]

9 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Meh seems like it’d been easier to cut him

Not if the player we picked would be snatched up as soon as post draft signing began...

 

My guess is that CB was surprised that the player didn't go in the draft/

[csmopar 8,697]

11 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

Not if the player we picked would be snatched up as soon as post draft signing began...

 

My guess is that CB was surprised that the player didn't go in the draft/

Good point 

[Superman 35,774]

On 4/27/2019 at 4:16 PM, Patrick Miller said:

Inconsistent. Glad we got something for him.

 

He never got consistent reps. I always thought he had ability but barely got to play. I hope he gets a shot in Philly.

[cbear 819]

20 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

He never got consistent reps. I always thought he had ability but barely got to play. I hope he gets a shot in Philly.

 

IMO, he usually played well when he got the chance.  Liked his ability to get into the backfield.  Not sure why he didn't get more of a chance.  

[Dr. T 296]

This opens up a slot now to sign Suh!

[CurBeatElite 439]

On 4/27/2019 at 3:50 PM, shastamasta said:

Hmmm...it's a shame he never amounted to anything. Liked him coming out of college. Maybe Ballard is targeting Willis. 

 

Ballard said in the post-draft press conference when asked about not really addressing the interior DL in the draft that he thinks we are very strong on the inside.

 

Key points were: (1) He thinks Autry is a very good player, (2) He likes Hunt and thought by bringing him back it eliminated a need to make a major move on the IDL, (3) He thinks Grover Stewart is going to make a big leap this year, and (4) He likes Tyquan Lewis' ability to play both inside and outside.

 

My thinking is there is something about Ridgeway that the coaches/FO didn't like how he fit our scheme or maybe he work ethic, etc.... I thought he got pretty good penetration when he had time to get into a groove... but the past two seasons we've had 8 and 9 DL on our final roster, respectively and we already have quite a bit of competition and talent there right now..... I'm bolding who I think are the top 9 DL on our current roster (assuming we don't make any more moves to acquire other DL):

 

Justin Houston, DE

Al-Quadin Muhammad, DE

Carroll Phillips, DE

Jabaal Sheard, DE

Kemoko Turay, DE

Anthony Winbush, DE

Margus Hunt, DT

Grover Stewart, DT

DeShawn Williams, DT

Jihad Ward, DT

Denico Autry, DT/DE

Tyquan Lewis, DT/DE

Gerri Green, DE/LB

 

Chances are, Ridgeway would have not made our final 53 anyway, even if we don't pursue someone like Gerald Willis....  

 

Kelly has had trouble staying healthy over the course of a full-season and we probably need depth/competition a little more at interior OL than DL right now.  Ballard probably thought Javon Patterson either (a) had a more likely chance of making our 53, or (b) realizes we can stash Patterson on the practice squad for a year or 2, which we wouldn't be able to do with Ridgeway.

 

Overall, I like the move.

 

[shastamasta 2,089]

5 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

Ballard said in the post-draft press conference when asked about not really addressing the interior DL in the draft that he thinks we are very strong on the inside.

 

Key points were: (1) He thinks Autry is a very good player, (2) He likes Hunt and thought by bringing him back it eliminated a need to make a major move on the IDL, (3) He thinks Grover Stewart is going to make a big leap this year, and (4) He likes Tyquan Lewis' ability to play both inside and outside.

 

My thinking is there is something about Ridgeway that the coaches/FO didn't like how he fit our scheme or maybe he work ethic, etc.... I thought he got pretty good penetration when he had time to get into a groove... but the past two seasons we've had 8 and 9 DL on our final roster, respectively and we already have quite a bit of competition and talent there right now..... I'm bolding who I think are the top 9 DL on our current roster (assuming we don't make any more moves to acquire other DL):

 

Justin Houston, DE

Al-Quadin Muhammad, DE

Carroll Phillips, DE

Jabaal Sheard, DE

Kemoko Turay, DE

Anthony Winbush, DE

Margus Hunt, DT

Grover Stewart, DT

DeShawn Williams, DT

Jihad Ward, DT

Denico Autry, DT/DE

Tyquan Lewis, DT/DE

Gerri Green, DE/LB

 

Chances are, Ridgeway would have not made our final 53 anyway, even if we don't pursue someone like Gerald Willis....  

 

Kelly has had trouble staying healthy over the course of a full-season and we probably need depth/competition a little more at interior OL than DL right now.  Ballard probably thought Javon Patterson either (a) had a more likely chance of making our 53, or (b) realizes we can stash Patterson on the practice squad for a year or 2, which we wouldn't be able to do with Ridgeway.

 

Overall, I like the move.

 

 

I like the move too...especially since he didn't really have a role on the team.

 

I was never "all-in" on drafting DTs in this class...because the ones I liked wouldn't be there (and they weren't). So I believe them when they say they like their IDL depth over who was available.

 

Plus, from their moves this offseason, it is clear that the edge is where they are focusing their pass rush improvements (which is what I wanted to see).

 

Still, I think trading Ridgeway definitely intentionally opened up some flexibility for the IDL. A lot of teams addressed DT in this draft, so other players will become available, either through trade or release. I expect the Colts to grab at least one (who could make the roster) before TC. I would love for that DT to be McCoy...as a win-now move and to help mentor other young players. But it could be several different players, depending on how everything shakes out.

[Superman 35,774]

9 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:

Chances are, Ridgeway would have not made our final 53 anyway, even if we don't pursue someone like Gerald Willis....  

 

 

The fact that they traded him is a strong indication by itself. Add to it the fact that Ridgeway only played in five games and got 65 defensive snaps last year, and it's pretty obvious that the staff wasn't a fan. Why, I don't know, but that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't going to be on the final roster. 

 

In that respect, I have no problem with the trade. My main question is why they didn't like him, because I thought he played well when he got his (rare) chances.

[stitches 6,199]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

He never got consistent reps. I always thought he had ability but barely got to play. I hope he gets a shot in Philly.

Yeah, he was one of my favorite Grigson picks... not that it says much... I thought he was disruptive whenever he played but he just never really got consistent playing time. 

[PrincetonTiger 9,568]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yeah, he was one of my favorite Grigson picks... not that it says much... I thought he was disruptive whenever he played but he just never really got consistent playing time. 

Makes you wonder about his practice efforts