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Colts are signing Justin Houston [Merge]

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3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Nice deal! Hope we frontloaded the first year a bit. Houston should get 8-10 sacks this year.

 

The question is. . . Do we start him or do we put him in during obvious passing downs to try to keep him healthy.  

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8 minutes ago, Old Colt said:

Finally, a Play Maker!  Look for a DL now in the draft!

 

Why would this signing make it more likely to look for a DL in the draft?

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3 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

No clue either. Nothing about a visit either. That basically takes Lynch off the table now

 

Ballard was in KC before coming to Indy.  He doesn't need a visit.  

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I like this. He might have been the best DE on the market. Age-related regression is expected but still, he's a very very good player. We haven't had this level of pass-rusher since Mathis's awesome 2013... 

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Whoaaaaa!! And there it is, a big signing of a top guy at a position of need! That should quiet everybody's nerves.

 

Mathis and Houston molding Turay and Lewis... hell yes. 

 

Let's go!!!

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With less accomplished pass rushers getting 17-18 million on he market this year, this is a bargain and relatively low risk at 2 years.

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1 minute ago, Dustin said:

 

12m is a bargain for what edge rushers go for these days tnh. I think this is probably right in line with his value if he can manage 8-12 sacks

 

Whew.  Thank God.  I don't think I could handle it if they had signed him for 13m instead of 12.  That would change everything.

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That contact is a steal if he gives us two solid years and time to develop our own.

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I didn't see any whispers from any notable reporters or anything. Did he visit us or did we visit him?
Either way, absolutely great piece of business. Not a perfect scheme fit but he played a season in 4-3 last year and still had a great year.

 

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Just now, Valpo2004 said:

 

The question is. . . Do we start him or do we put him in during obvious passing downs to try to keep him healthy.  

I would put him in during passing downs, and unleash him in the playoffs. I'm liking the draft better with Houston on the team now.

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1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Ballard was in KC before coming to Indy.  He doesn't need a visit.  

 

Don't think that matters. Ajayi was with Reich in philly

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Wow, this signing is a surprise. I guess Ballard was comfortable with his fit in our 4-3 defense as a pass rush specialist. He should be, if nothing else, a really good example for the development of Turay. 

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3 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:

With less accomplished pass rushers getting 17-18 million on he market this year, this is a bargain and relatively low risk at 2 years.

Yep, it's possible we have an out after the 1st year too, in case things don't work out. 

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16 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:

You sneaky fox!!!! 

 

Actually laughed out loud at that. 

 

I oddly pictured Ballard with a coy little smile and a side-glance.   A disturbingly funny image. 

 

I like this signing and I like the fact that it was under the radar. 

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Which one do you like better: 

 

 

1. Houston for 12M+2nd round pick 

2. Dee Ford for 18M - 2nd round pick... 

 

I pick 1 easy. 

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So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

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15 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

Imagine: 

 

 

Resigned:

CB: Pierre Desir

OG: Mark Glowinski 

SS: Clayton Geathers

DE: Marcus Hunt 

 

Signed:

WR: Devin Funchess

DE: Justin Houston 

RB: Jay Ajayi 

OLB: Aaron Lynch

 

I would consider that a big success. Super stoked! 

 

 

 

we didn't sign Ajayi or Lynch, Unless I missed something 

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Finally...a move to win now. You don't give a 30 year-old Houston $24M if you don't plan on competing during the upcoming two-year window.

 

Colts need DEs...and even at age 30...Houston probably still has better athleticism than anyone but Turay and can get after it.

 

Wonder if this opens up a possibility for a Suh signing as well.

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19 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:

How the heck does this guy keep things so quiet 

When FA started there was a rumor the colts contacted his agent. There just was no verification it was true.

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10 minutes ago, TheMose said:

KC has one of the best pass rushes last year and Houston was a huge part of that. He was graded the 14th best rusher by PFF last year

I'd like to know what's up with the KC front office.  A great pass rush but they let both Houston and Dee Ford leave.  They must have somebody on the roster to take one of those spots or they are telegraphing their draft plans pretty badly.

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Just now, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

 

well it sure makes the decision of going for a DB in the first round, or trading out of first round to get more picks easier lol. I Think the D-line is set. maybe add another DT. 

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6 minutes ago, GwinnettColt said:

 

Actually laughed out loud at that. 

 

I oddly pictured Ballard with a coy little smile and a side-glance.   A disturbingly funny image. 

 

I like this signing and I like the fact that it was under the radar. 

 

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Here in NY Metro area been getting opinions from my family members (Giants fans ) over last 15 minutes in throwing comments like "seems like Colts have a very good GM "

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2 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

Autry plays inside a lot, and Lewis supposedly can.

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It looks like ballard asked about a trade for Dee Ford but opted to keep the draft pick and sign Houston instead.

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https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-best-low-budget-options-available-in-free-agency

 

PFF summary:

 

"After the dust settled from the franchise tags, the edge rusher market turned into Trey Flowers and question marks. Houston’s release changes that though. In fact, Houston had a higher pass-rushing grade than even Flowers last season. The veteran edge defender has had injuries over the past few seasons, but he can still dominate when he’s healthy. He had 48 pressures on only 374 rushes last season."

 

His PFF grades are shown in the image. PFF sucks many times, but at least it shows him relative to himself. He still has some good football left as evidenced by last year when he was on the field.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

 

I think it's more like Houston, Sheard, Turay and Ward right now. I think those other guys play inside more...outside of special situations.

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3 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

 

Hunt Autry and Lewis can play inside

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3 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

 

Autry, Lewis, and Hunt will be primarily inside.

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3 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

Hunt and Autry are DT's and the Colts want Lewis to play there eventually.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

So as far as I can tell at defensive end we have

 

Margus Hunt

Kemko Turay 

Denico Autry

Justin Houston

Tyquan Lewis

 

How to do we work this out in terms of playing time?  Can any of them be shifted inside? 

 

Houston and Sheard are more than likely going to be the starters. 

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2 minutes ago, DougDew said:

 

I'd like to know what's up with the KC front office.  A great pass rush but they let both Houston and Dee Ford leave.  They must have somebody on the roster to take one of those spots or they are telegraphing their draft plans pretty badly.

 

They were pushing deep into their cap and those guys (Ford, Berry, Houston) were the casualties. 

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3 minutes ago, Deadpool said:

we didn't sign Ajayi or Lynch, Unless I missed something 

Yeah they haven’t. I said imagine as it could potentially happen. The offseason is looking a lot better with this signing. 

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Just now, Chloe6124 said:

It looks like ballard asked about a trade for Dee Ford but opted to keep the draft pick and sign Houston instead.

 

Interesting...I think I might have bit the bullet and did that Ford trade (with the #59 pick)...if I believed he could be a DE in this defense.

 

But Houston should be a decent consolation...especially if they squeeze a couple of years out of him. But you never know with aging pass rushers.

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There was a tweet with a rumor the colts contacted his agent but it wasn’t from any of the big reporters.

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