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8 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

I dont know if thats dumb or genius haha 

 

I'm going with genius. But its not a terrible idea anyway. There will always be someone willing to take accommodation or tickets off your hands.

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3 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

interesting, but i don't see him falling past 15, and I don't see the colts using the draft capital needed to move up to get him.

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3 hours ago, Irish YJ said:

interesting, but i don't see him falling past 15, and I don't see the colts using the draft capital needed to move up to get him.

 

Mocks have him going between 15-20. If hes there at 18, colts can move up and still keep both second round picks. Draft calcutor shows the 18th pick is worth our 1st 3rd and 4th round picks which is not too steep and we can always trade down from 34 to get back a pick if we want to.

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2 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

Mocks have him going between 15-20. If hes there at 18, colts can move up and still keep both second round picks. Draft calcutor shows the 18th pick is worth our 1st 3rd and 4th round picks which is not too steep and we can always trade down from 34 to get back a pick if we want to.

 

You say this as if it's just that simple and that your cost estimate is close to accurate.  Stop using the draft calculator as the be all, end all.  It is not.  I keep going back to what it cost the Saints to move up to 14 from 27.  They had to swap # 1's with the Packers last year and also give Green Bay a 5th rounder last year and a # 1 this year.  

 

To move up, that is the far more likely required compensation.  

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4 hours ago, jskinnz said:

 

You say this as if it's just that simple and that your cost estimate is close to accurate.  Stop using the draft calculator as the be all, end all.  It is not.  I keep going back to what it cost the Saints to move up to 14 from 27.  They had to swap # 1's with the Packers last year and also give Green Bay a 5th rounder last year and a # 1 this year.  

 

To move up, that is the far more likely required compensation.  

 

Thats 12 spots compared to 8 and moving to pick 15 compared to pick 18. That is two completely different scerinos

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I think any team willing to trade back from the mid/late teens is going to wanna be well compensated or they'll just stay where they're at.

Plus I think it's very possible Burns gets taken by the Panthers or the Giants. They both could use an edge. 

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1 hour ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I think any team willing to trade back from the mid/late teens is going to wanna be well compensated or they'll just stay where they're at.

Plus I think it's very possible Burns gets taken by the Panthers or the Giants. They both could use an edge. 

Feel the same way

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12 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

Mocks have him going between 15-20. If hes there at 18, colts can move up and still keep both second round picks. Draft calcutor shows the 18th pick is worth our 1st 3rd and 4th round picks which is not too steep and we can always trade down from 34 to get back a pick if we want to.

last 4 or 5 mocks i saw from this week had him gong 6, 8, 11, and 14. CBSx2, SBN, SI, NFL.com

would like to have him, but i don't know if i'd part with a 3rd round pick + others. I just don't see it after picking Houston.

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1 minute ago, Irish YJ said:

last 4 or 5 mocks i saw from this week had him gong 6, 8, 11, and 14. CBSx2, SBN, SI, NFL.com

would like to have him, but i don't know if i'd part with a 3rd round pick + others. I just don't see it after picking Houston.

 

They also had Gary going in the twenties do you see that happening?

 

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2 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

They also had Gary going in the twenties do you see that happening?

 

 

I can see Gary dropping out of round 1 entirely, so yeah, 20s sounds good ;)

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6 minutes ago, PureLuck said:

 

I can see Gary dropping out of round 1 entirely, so yeah, 20s sounds good ;)

 

No way that happens. He has top 5 upside in this class...AND doesn't have any character or off-field red flags. Several teams will gamble on that.

 

If he does make it to #26...and Ballard passes on him...I would be shocked.

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11 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

They also had Gary going in the twenties do you see that happening?

 

i've only seen one mock of him outside the top 15. neither would shock me falling into the 20s, but i would be a bit surprised.

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Just now, Irish YJ said:

i've only seen one mock of him outside the top 15. neither would shock me falling into the 20s, but i would be a bit surprised.

 

You never know what happens in the draft. The draft we got Hooker, no one though he would drop to 15 because it was defense heavy draft and yet teams took offensive players

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Just now, CR91 said:

 

You never know what happens in the draft. The draft we got Hooker, no one though he would drop to 15 because it was defense heavy draft and yet teams took offensive players

yup, there's always surprises. i do think gary and burns though have too high of upside, and too good of ratings, to fall far. i've seen Ferrell drop outside of 20 in a few too. 

 

every mock though has someone falling farther than you would think, and others shooting up. i just try to follow the trends across all of the different mock sources. one guy i've been raving about for a while is S Thornhill. Was a 4th round guy in early mock drafts, and now making his way into the 1st round in some mocks. CBs and Ss have been all over the place for the last month or so. 

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11 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

You never know what happens in the draft. The draft we got Hooker, no one though he would drop to 15 because it was defense heavy draft and yet teams took offensive players

The only team that knows what could happen is the team with the #1 Pick

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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

The only team that knows what could happen is the team with the #1 Pick

 

Very true

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1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

I not use mocks to research players

 

Course not. I did my homework on Brian Burns before he was mentioned in the first round. Same with Darnell Savage who imo is the second best safety in the draft.

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24 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Course not. I did my homework on Brian Burns before he was mentioned in the first round. Same with Darnell Savage who imo is the second best safety in the draft.

Forgive me, but I am bit giddy over the latest WNBA Mock but meant to say that I only use Mocks to research players

 

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1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Forgive me, but I am bit giddy over the latest WNBA Mock but meant to say that I only use Mocks to research players

 

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I need to do my own research. I don't trust these so called "experts"

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6 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

I need to do my own research. I don't trust these so called "experts"

I revert back to coaching days and over prepare so use the mocks to narrow down the contenders

 

    I am doing the opposite right now to prepare for the WNBA Draft

       Instead of researching players I am researching teams that could draft Jackie Young

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Not sure if this is true or not

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1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

Not sure if this is true or not

 

Makes sense. Surprised it hadn't happened sooner when there were reports of other RBs visiting.

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I think we are better off looking for a FA running back then one in the draft since we have 3 pretty good ones.

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55 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

I think we are better off looking for a FA running back then one in the draft since we have 3 pretty good ones.

Agree, Mack, Hines, Wilkins and Williams are solid. If they are looking for a short yardage bruiser they can definitely find one laying around in FA. 
Whats LeGarrette Blount up to? :D

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6 minutes ago, RNGDShobby said:

Agree, Mack, Hines, Wilkins and Williams are solid. If they are looking for a short yardage bruiser they can definitely find one laying around in FA. 
Whats LeGarrette Blount up to? :D

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On 4/9/2019 at 4:17 PM, Chloe6124 said:

I think we are better off looking for a FA running back then one in the draft since we have 3 pretty good ones.

I also hope that they dont use an early 1 or 2 pick on a RB

 

However, if Montgomery is still on the board at round 3 (doubtful) I am grabbing him

If Snell is still on the board in round 4, I am grabbing him

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9 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

 

Can i borrow him next Saint Patricks day when i'm trying to get a beer from the bar?

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