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    • Same here.... he retired for valid enough reasons IMO.... but if he has 2nd thoughts and wants to play again I prefer we trade his rights.   How long do we reserve his rights by the way?
    • I am convinced Luck will never play again. I'm disappointed, but I've made my peace with that.   I assume he retired for good reason, and while he technically "quit," I think it's harsh to call him a quitter, as if he's less of a person.    I also don't think I'd ever be able to trust him or commit to him again, if it were up to me. 
    • You didn't specify 2009. And I also follow every ND opponent's (especially Stanford, USC, and scUM) recruiting and seasons very close.   In 2009 he did have Gerhart, Taylor, and Gaffney at RB, Fleener and Ertz (RS) at TE, and Whalen, Owusu, and Baldwin at WR. They certainly were not void of talent. Stanford's recruiting got way better after Harbaugh got there in 2007 but yes, it did take a few years to settle in. If you feel better using 2010 vs TL's 2019, that's fine. The numbers are already close, and TL should have as good or better after his next two games.    
    • Just speaking for myself, I liked my post, and I didn't like your post, so it's not hard for me to understand.   Here's what happened in this thread. OP posted a stat. You derided stats on the basis of "you guys keep using stats to talk about things JB doesn't do well, which means you can't form an opinion for yourself," which is just another way of you trying to show your superior depth or whatever.   No one has ever offered any singular stat as definitive proof that JB "isn't the answer." If they have, that's ridiculous.    You say you agree with the first point. The stat in the OP quantifies it. So what's the problem?
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