Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

CR91

Great read on Jamie Moore who scouted Mack and Leonard

Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:

Sounds like he hasn’t itvin him to be a GM one day.

 

Sounds like he hung out with Grigson a little too much:  “Because when you walk in our (draft) room, you better have alligator skin. It’s not all nice-nice.”

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
43 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

Sounds like he hung out with Grigson a little too much:  “Because when you walk in our (draft) room, you better have alligator skin. It’s not all nice-nice.”

I highly doubt that Grigson has a thing to do with what goes on in the draft room.

There is a whole staff of scouts, coordinators and coaches that want their two cents heard and then you got the GM, head coach and the owner.

I am sure all draft rooms have their opinions and naturally there will be disagreements. It would be naïve to think that tempers don't flare up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I highly doubt that Grigson has a thing to do with what goes on in the draft room.

There is a whole staff of scouts, coordinators and coaches that want their two cents heard and then you got the GM, head coach and the owner.

I am sure all draft rooms have their opinions and naturally there will be disagreements. It would be naïve to think that tempers don't flare up.

 

Yea, no kidding.

 

My reference is to "you better have alligator skin.  It's not all nice-nice." 

 

The way he talks throughout the article reminds me of a lot of the cliche quotes that came from Grigson and Pagano era  ..... I like the guy's intensity and all, but there aren't many jobs in the world where you work with other people and tempers don't sometimes flare up and not a lot of jobs in the world where you can be excel if you don't have conviction, etc.... just the way he talks about his job from "alligator skin" to "It takes conviction. It takes guts...." and the way he came to the draft in a suit that looked like a mobster suit.... reminds me a lot of the way Grigs used to talk.

 

I've got a job which requires a quite a bit of travel and quite a bit of stressful meetings, but if I was ever interviewed by the newspaper I don't think I'd be telling them I have alligator skin... or "If I was just travelling around not doing my job, what would I be doing? I'd just be collecting Marriott points..... I've got conviction. I've got guts. I see through the fog."

 

Good on the guy for helping us land Mack and Leonard.  Sounds like he's a pretty good scout and sounds like Ballard and the higher-ups in the F.O. like him and think he's doing a good job.

 

I just found the way he talks and seems to act to be reminiscent of Grigs. 

 

Just read some of Grigs' quotes from this article, and maybe you'll realize I was making a joke and not being naive:

 

 https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/04/25/colts-grigson-willing-think-outside-box-country/26359709/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

Yea, no kidding.

 

My reference is to "you better have alligator skin.  It's not all nice-nice." 

 

The way he talks throughout the article reminds me of a lot of the cliche quotes that came from Grigson and Pagano era  ..... I like the guy's intensity and all, but there aren't many jobs in the world where you work with other people and tempers don't sometimes flare up and not a lot of jobs in the world where you can be excel if you don't have conviction, etc.... just the way he talks about his job from "alligator skin" to "It takes conviction. It takes guts...." and the way he came to the draft in a suit that looked like a mobster suit.... reminds me a lot of the way Grigs used to talk.

 

I've got a job which requires a quite a bit of travel and quite a bit of stressful meetings, but if I was ever interviewed by the newspaper I don't think I'd be telling them I have alligator skin... or "If I was just travelling around not doing my job, what would I be doing? I'd just be collecting Marriott points..... I've got conviction. I've got guts. I see through the fog."

 

Good on the guy for helping us land Mack and Leonard.  Sounds like he's a pretty good scout and sounds like Ballard and the higher-ups in the F.O. like him and think he's doing a good job.

 

I just found the way he talks and seems to act to be reminiscent of Grigs. 

 

Just read some of Grigs' quotes from this article, and maybe you'll realize I was making a joke and not being naive:

 

 https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/04/25/colts-grigson-willing-think-outside-box-country/26359709/

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO I think you over think this stuff. :dunno:---:hat:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

IMO I think you over think this stuff. :dunno:---:hat:

 

Lol... you are the one who is overthinking anything and accusing me of being naive to the fact that tempers probably flare up in draft rooms (the war room).

 

You're the one who wrote a post to suggest Grigson doesn't have anything to do with the draft room (he's been gone for almost 3 years, why would he?).

 

The guy is an NFL scout... good for him... glad he helped get some good players on our radar.  Hopefully next time he's interviewed he's morphed from having alligator skin to being a butcher ball of bowling knives when he goes into the draft room.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

Lol... you are the one who is overthinking anything and accusing me of being naive to the fact that tempers probably flare up in draft rooms (the war room).

 

You're the one who wrote a post to suggest Grigson doesn't have anything to do with the draft room (he's been gone for almost 3 years, why would he?).

 

The guy is an NFL scout... good for him... glad he helped get some good players on our radar.  Hopefully next time he's interviewed he's morphed from having alligator skin to being a butcher ball of bowling knives when he goes into the draft room.

Wow, you are overthinking what I said.  Lighten up, it's not that serious.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I love reading about scouts and other personnel who have a hand in who the Colts draft/sign. Ballard gets all the credit and heat of course, but he seems to trust his guys and I love that about the guy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For every good scouting story though, there's two bad ones we'll never hear about.

I want the name of the first person in our scouting department who whispered Trent Richardson's name. I imagine the scout was like, "This guy's tough as nails! If you want 1-yd, he will get you 2! How cool would it be to say we own the 1st and 3rd overall picks in the same draft!?"

 

Grigson pulled the trigger, but I wonder if it was some random scout sipping the Kool-Aid who said the name first. Bad scouts can set your franchise back for years, and whoever that was may have cost us a Superbowl. We'll never know.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

Sounds like he hung out with Grigson a little too much:  “Because when you walk in our (draft) room, you better have alligator skin. It’s not all nice-nice.”

 

I have a feeling Griggles never listened to Moore and just picked whoever he wanted to. Hence his drafts. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Considering all the driving this guy has to do, doesn't it make sense that the colts might you know provide him with a company car or something.  

 

I mean I'm sure they pay mileage and all but if 80% of the miles he puts on are for work anyways, why not just buy the car for him to use?  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

Considering all the driving this guy has to do, doesn't it make sense that the colts might you know provide him with a company car or something.  

 

I mean I'm sure they pay mileage and all but if 80% of the miles he puts on are for work anyways, why not just buy the car for him to use?  

Is there a reason you don't think he is compensated?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Is there a reason you don't think he is compensated?

 

No I do think he is compensated, I said "I'm sure they pay mileage".  

 

I just don't understand the point of him using his own car when probably 80% of the miles he puts on that car are for work.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

No I do think he is compensated, I said "I'm sure they pay mileage".  

 

I just don't understand the point of him using his own car when probably 80% of the miles he puts on that car are for work.  

The point is he is paid well enough to buy a car to use in his work. Every mile he drives is tax deductible and even the gas. I am sure he has a per diem so it's not like he spends money out of pocket.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Had Funchess been practing? I thought he had to practice for two weeks before being able to come back?
    • Oh you were right on that one.  I still won, but I missed out on having highest score of the week by .32 points.  Our league pays out for highest weekly scores. 
    • I think there's a danger with any position of getting enamoured with the 40 time, I'd put 3 cone over it certainly. However, as always never go by just one metric, and never put metrics over film.    For all that was written about him being a below average athlete, if you compare  him to some of the 'good' SS's in the league he matches up pretty well:   Willis 4.55s (40)/7.15s (3 Cone) Collins 4.53s (40)/7.53s (3 Cone) Chancellor 4.69s (40)/7.36s (3 Cone) Jones  4.51s (40)/7.43s (3 Cone)  Adams  4.56s (40)/6.96s (3 Cone)    etc etc... 
    • CeeDee Lamb would be the dream pick imo. Reminds me a lot of Hopkins/Thomas, good size, great route runner and hands. Means he could take on a high volume of targets in the short/intermediate range, something I think Frank Reich badly needs (that's why he was high on signing Funchess). Put him on the boundary opposite Hilton and Campbell in the slot and we have serious options. Not as high on Ruggs when we already have Hilton.   I like Mack as a lead back, but not 25 carries a game. I would prefer a legit RB2 to take some of that load off him, preferably a RB to compliments his game, so a heavier, more physical, north/south RB. This draft has options in the mid round.
    • Here's where I think Kelly 'fans' are distressed. To your point we don't know Kelly...fair.  So what do we know.  We know he can run, dude's fast.  We know he has a strong arm, like that.  We know he'll throw downfield and into tight windows, good!  We know he will stand in the pocket, check. We know he has the stuff to go into Alabama with an Ole Miss team and beat em, that no small thing. We also know he has off-field issues maybe he's grown up, don't know but we hear good things from Frank.  So to someone like me, I like what I see and like what I hear...Rally confused.   Here's what we know about Hoyer, he has none of those physical attributes but he's good in the QB room.  Ok, well, I'm good in QB room but you wouldn't want me under center.  There's an obvious hesitation here on the part of Frank and/or Chris to make Kelly a part of the permanent roster, they will likely cut him again and hope he clears waivers over Hoyer, that to me is absolutely stunning.  Either, Kelly is an off the field nightmare we shouldn't be investing in OR he should be at worst QB2. Hoyer is simply not good, we can get his level of performance literally anywhere, he's the prototypical failed backup and those are readily available on the cheap. I wouldn't understand keeping him over a contract when he weakens the team relative to someone like Kelly on game day.  So to a previous posters comment, why is Kelly here?  If he is such an integrity issue it's not our job to make a man out of him while he occupies a spot.  If he's is good enough physically, which he is, and he's on this roster, which he is, he should stay up and get some first team reps, as all back ups should and see how matures.  It starting to feel like some ego at play here.  All in all, our leadership was ill-prepared to deal with Brissett going down and choked this week in prep.  It's my hope we dump Hoyer who is useless and keep Kelly at QB2, I don't think that will happen.  My 2+ cents.
  • Members

    • CantBeStopped

      CantBeStopped 444

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • CS Coltsfan

      CS Coltsfan 27

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Nadine

      Nadine 7,757

      Administrators
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Franklin County

      Franklin County 468

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Colt.45

      Colt.45 76

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • jskinnz

      jskinnz 5,456

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Nate!

      Nate! 77

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • TheMiz

      TheMiz 121

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • jimmy g

      jimmy g 420

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • lincolndefan

      lincolndefan 2

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...