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2 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Umm I said it was illegal... I’m more curious if he had an itch to

scratch why not just jump on your jet to Vegas where it isn’t illegal.

He was visiting a certain resort and doing fundraising for charities in the region

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4 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Umm I said it was illegal... I’m more curious if he had an itch to

scratch why not just jump on your jet to Vegas where it isn’t illegal.

 

It's illegal in Vegas by local law but there are other places in Nevada where it's perfectly legal.  

 

He could also go to another country too where it's legal.  

 

And he's also got the "sugar baby" option too.  Given the apparently open relationship he has with his GF, I doubt she would mind.  

 

There are certainly smarter ways he could have gone about this.  

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1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

It's illegal in Vegas by local law but there are other places in Nevada where it's perfectly legal.  

 

He could also go to another country too where it's legal.  

 

And he's also got the "sugar baby" option too.  Given the apparently open relationship he has with his GF, I doubt she would mind.  

 

There are certainly smarter ways he could have gone about this.  

What really bothers me is that fact he feels he did nothing wrong

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39 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Umm being caught with a ton of drugs in your car and being well a * to the cops is very much different than an old man trying get himself a little something something.. lol.  Be honest Itsey had a problem and if I remember right he dealt with it, this is simply a case of a man wanting some.. neither bother me that much.

Itsay was suspended? 

Sounds like it's much worse than that.  From what I've seen, it looks like he was part of a human trafficking ring and he solicited someone to commit prostitution.  This isn't just an old guy trying to have some fun.

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2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

He was visiting a certain resort and doing fundraising for charities in the region

Something was raising all right and he had the fund to do it. Kraft "if you really want food for the next week it going to cost you"

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1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said:

Sounds like it's much worse than that.  From what I've seen, it looks like he was part of a human trafficking ring and he solicited someone to commit prostitution.  This isn't just an old guy trying to have some fun.

if this part is true...he's in DEEEEP excrement....and my bro in law just said some of the girls involved might be underaged. 

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Just now, PeterBowman said:

if this part is true...he's in DEEEEP excrement....and my bro in law just said some of the girls involved might be underaged. 

Too early to say for now since the story is developing, but this has the potential to be REALLY bad

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1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

if this part is true...he's in DEEEEP excrement....and my bro in law just said some of the girls involved might be underaged. 

if that true and he has to register and not be near kids does that mean he can not even go to his own games

 

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1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

if this part is true...he's in DEEEEP excrement....and my bro in law just said some of the girls involved might be underaged. 

Not good at all

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This is sad situation for all involved.  I will be interested to see if Kraft knew that there was human trafficking going on at this venue.   Also, will be interested to see how all of this pans out as it is only a day or so old and "facts" and denials can change as time goes on and we get a better picture of what happened. 

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3 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

Sounds like it's much worse than that.  From what I've seen, it looks like he was part of a human trafficking ring and he solicited someone to commit prostitution.  This isn't just an old guy trying to have some fun.

I read the article, if I am reading it right. (I am super sick so I may not be lol) it sounds he just solicited a woman for sex and isn’t one of the ring leaders of the trafficking ring. 

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Just now, Freenyfan102 said:

if that true and he has to register and not be near kids does that mean he can not even go to his own games

 

Patriots or Revolution

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Just now, JimJaime said:

I read the article, if I am reading it right. (I am super sick so I may not be lol) it sounds he just solicited a woman for sex and isn’t one of the ring leaders of the trafficking ring. 

Doesn’t matter

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5 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

What really bothers me is that fact he feels he did nothing wrong

 

He might just be trying to maintain his innocence.  

 

Regardless if he was just trying to pay what he believed was a willing adult woman for sex I don't personally think it's a huge deal.  On a religious/moral level I find it immoral but it's not the kind of act that I want to see my tax dollars being spent for the cops to track down, have these people put on trial, and see some imprisoned for it.  

 

Obviously if he was involved in human trafficking then things are much much deeper and he deserves prison.  

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21 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-soliciting-prostitution-florida-spa/2939429002/

 

Interesting, supposedly caught on surveillance video...

 

Part of a large International trafficking ring too...

 

19 minutes ago, Freenyfan102 said:

it would be the one video on a porn website nobody wants to see.

 

 

:popcorn:

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25 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

Hope this doesn't turn into Deflate Gate 2.0

Fillet gate

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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Doesn’t matter

Yes it does!!!! Big difference from being a horny old man paying for sex and a billionaire trading people like commodities to make a few extra dollars! There is a HUGE HUGE difference!!

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4 minutes ago, Freenyfan102 said:

if that true and he has to register and not be near kids does that mean he can not even go to his own games

 

depends on the state, but yeah

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Maybe this will make Tom Brady retire. We can only wish. What a dirty old man. Irsay only hurt himself. This is much worse.

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It happened in Jupiter Fl. Only 25 miles away from me. Lol

hahahahahaha

 

Reading this news is probably more fun for us Colts than Kraft probably had..... ok maybe not. haha

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7 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

Too early to say for now since the story is developing, but this has the potential to be REALLY bad

 

Agreed we don't know much yet.  This could be a simple case of him just trying to get some sex for money from an adult woman which while illegal isn't super huge.  

 

Or it could be him being involved in human trafficking or underaged prostitution which would be massive and would likely not only involve prison but also involve a forced sale of the Patriots.  

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28 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Irsay had a problem, a very bad problem.  That he seemed help for and I think he has been sober ever since?  I personally never bashed the man for it, we all have our demons. (That’s not to say I liked him I always found him annoying but that’s me.)

 

as for this this I really don’t care.  Prostitution been around forever and the fact we still have it illegal just allows the wrong people profit off of it. 

The operative word here is illegal.

 

Whether you think it should or should not be, does not come into play.

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2 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Yes it does!!!! Big difference from being a horny old man paying for sex and a billionaire trading people like commodities to make a few extra dollars! There is a HUGE HUGE difference!!

i have a pun

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20 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

hey look, the Patriots being caught on video again doing something illegal. 

That is one video that I don't want to see. Ugghhh

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2 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Yes it does!!!! Big difference from being a horny old man paying for sex and a billionaire trading people like commodities to make a few extra dollars! There is a HUGE HUGE difference!!

Not in the eyes of many 

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1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

Agreed we don't know much yet.  This could be a simple case of him just trying to get some sex for money from an adult woman which while illegal isn't super huge.  

 

Or it could be him being involved in human trafficking or underaged prostitution which would be massive and would likely not only involve prison but also involve a forced sale of the Patriots.  

No, he would just hand over the Patriots to his son Jonathan Kraft and “retire”. 

1 minute ago, Gramz said:

The operative word here is "illegal".

 

Whether you think it should or should not be, does not come into play.

If I read it right Grams a minor crime and with his money a little slap on the wrist.. ASSUMING he was just soliciting a prostitute.

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1 minute ago, JimJaime said:

No, he would just hand over the Patriots to his son Jonathan Kraft and “retire”. 

Maybe, maybe not.  If and this is a HUGE IF, he's busted with UNDERAGE girls and human trafficking, no way in heck the league lets him do that. the other owners can force the sale of the Patriots and will if that is the case.

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2 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

That is one video that I don't want to see. Ugghhh

Imagine the cops, now you see her now you don't now you see her now you don't. He what's going on here

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1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Not in the eyes of many 

Really?  Then I feel sad for them! If you can’t see a BIG difference between buying and selling people make a profit (that was sex traffickers do) and someone just wanting some physical attention and paying for it.. 

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5 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

It happened in Jupiter Fl. Only 25 miles away from me. Lol

hahahahahaha

 

Reading this news is probably more fun for us Colts than Kraft probably had..... ok maybe not. haha

 

That makes two of us that think that way and say it out loud, a bit. I am just eating my popcorn because I don't have much to add.  :) 

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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Maybe, maybe not.  If and this is a HUGE IF, he's busted with UNDERAGE girls and human trafficking, no way in heck the league lets him do that. the other owners can force the sale of the Patriots and will if that is the case.

He’s a billionaire if he thought he was going be arrested and charged with that he flee to a non extraditing country.. he didn’t.. 

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Just now, JimJaime said:

Really?  Then I feel sad for them! If you can’t see a BIG difference between buying and selling people make a profit (that was sex traffickers do) and someone just wanting some physical attention and paying for it.. 

Yeah, there is a difference apparently kids must be involved and there is a difference between liking kids to really liking kids.

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5 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

If I read it right Grams a minor crime and with his money a little slap on the wrist.. ASSUMING he was just soliciting a prostitute.

 

And likely very little punishment from the league.  

 

While this gives Colts fans something to crow about for a bit, but if that's really all it was, what Irsay did IMO is worse.  Soliciting an adult willing prostitute doesn't hurt anybody or create the potential for harm.  Irsay driving around loaded up on pain meds could have gotten someone killed.  

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Just now, chad72 said:

 

That makes two of us. I am just eating my popcorn because I don't have much to add.  :) 

How much did Kraft pay for your silence

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1 minute ago, JimJaime said:

He’s a billionaire if he thought he was going be arrested and charged with that he flee to a non extraditing country.. he didn’t.. 

he probably didn't know he was going to be.  And they could have suspended his passport as part of the indictment. 

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1 minute ago, Valpo2004 said:

 

And likely very little punishment from the league.  

 

While this gives Colts fans something to crow about for a bit, but if that's really all it was, what Irsay did IMO is worse.  Soliciting an adult willing prostitute doesn't hurt anybody or create the potential for harm.  Irsay driving around loaded up on pain meds could have gotten someone killed.  

Agreed.. but again Irsay had a problem and the incident help him see it and fix it.. so I’m not going condemn the man for making a mistake or a lapse in judgement.

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I just cant help but wonder how long it is before TMZ gets ahold of that video :hat:

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1 minute ago, JimJaime said:

Really?  Then I feel sad for them! If you can’t see a BIG difference between buying and selling people make a profit (that was sex traffickers do) and someone just wanting some physical attention and paying for it.. 

I guess everyone I know and have been taught is wrong

 

  

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Just now, Valpo2004 said:

 

And likely very little punishment from the league.  

 

While this gives Colts fans something to crow about for a bit, but if that's really all it was, what Irsay did IMO is worse.  Soliciting an adult willing prostitute doesn't hurt anybody or create the potential for harm.  Irsay driving around loaded up on pain meds could have gotten someone killed.  

Kevin L. Orpurt drove through terre haute on pain med and nothing happen to him. Heck he ran over the mayor Harley Davidson  when he found out he was having affairs with his wife

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4 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

He’s a billionaire if he thought he was going be arrested and charged with that he flee to a non extraditing country.. he didn’t.. 

 

Those nations are not going to let you just stay there just cause you are on the run from the law in the US.  

 

You have to have a prior citizenship there for them to let you stay.  Either that or it has to be something political that embarasses the US government.  

 

It's not the second and I think Kraft is only a citizen of the United States.  So he couldn't just run from the law by flying to another country that doesn't extradite.  

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