How good was Tarik Glenn

[Dark Superman]

I know Tarik Glenn was a damn good football player and our anchor when it came to protecting Peyton's blind side. I was really young during Glenn's years as a Colt, so I don't have many memories of the guy. How good was he?

[Matabix]

Lead the line in false starts but besides maybe Saturday I think he gave up less sacks. It was a shame he never made 1 pro bowl. He kept the leftside of the line cleared for years.

[CR91]

He wasnt Jon Ogden or Orlando Pace, but he was dominate

[Dark Superman]

Guys like Manning, Harrison, James, got all the credit back then. I would hear people talk about Jeff Saturday more than Tarik.

[HarryTheCat]

People didn't appreciate just how good Tarik was until Tony Ugoh came along. 

[Dark Superman]

Yeah, losing Glenn and Diem really killed us for a long time until we drafted Anthony. We've hadn't had much luck at RT until this past season.

[IndySouthsider]

7 hours ago, Matabix said:

Lead the line in false starts but besides maybe Saturday I think he gave up less sacks. It was a shame he never made 1 pro bowl. He kept the leftside of the line cleared for years.

Often times the refs blew those calls. Glenn was one of the fastest ever at the snap. His reaction time was amazing 

[aaron11]

7 hours ago, Matabix said:

Lead the line in false starts but besides maybe Saturday I think he gave up less sacks. It was a shame he never made 1 pro bowl. He kept the leftside of the line cleared for years.

he made 3 pro bowls

[CoachLite]

7 hours ago, Matabix said:

Lead the line in false starts but besides maybe Saturday I think he gave up less sacks. It was a shame he never made 1 pro bowl. He kept the leftside of the line cleared for years.

He made a lot of false starts, sometimes at the worst of times.

[MPStack]

30 minutes ago, CoachLite said:

He made a lot of false starts, sometimes at the worst of times.

 

I think Adam Meadows was the King of false starts, not Glenn.

[throwing BBZ]

Based on sacks, hits and hurries and run blocking, i would definitely take his career over Castonzo.
 Glenn 7.4
 AC       6.9

[21isSuperman]

9 hours ago, Matabix said:

Lead the line in false starts but besides maybe Saturday I think he gave up less sacks. It was a shame he never made 1 pro bowl. He kept the leftside of the line cleared for years.

He was a 3-time Pro Bowler

[BluHorzhu]

7 hours ago, DarkSuperman said:

Yeah, losing Glenn and Diem really killed us for a long time until we drafted Anthony. We've hadn't had much luck at RT until this past season.

... and what a windfall Braden Smith has been so far...

[Clem-Dog]

Tarik Glenn was the most effective o-lineman during Peyton's era.  His get off allowed him to consistently stonewall some of the very best pass rushers and he was equally as effective at run-blocking or sealing the edge for Edgerrin.  

[IinD]

Him retiring was the beginning of the downward trend for us on the oline.

 

Ugoh and Charlie Johnson weren't going to fill in for Tarik's loss. Then we had some arena league reject playing RG for a while (no idea what his name was). Peyton really did make chicken salad out of chicken % his last few years.

 

 

[rock8591]

12 hours ago, Matabix said:

Lead the line in false starts but besides maybe Saturday I think he gave up less sacks. It was a shame he never made 1 pro bowl. He kept the leftside of the line cleared for years.

 

Made 3, 2004-06.

[Caffrey]

Tarik Glenn made at least one Pro-Bowl, I was there for the 2007 Pro-Bowl, our Super Bowl winning year 2006 season, Super Bowl and Pro-Bowl in 2007.  We had Manning, M. Harrison, R. Wayne, J. Saturday, and Tarik.  Interestingly, DE's D. Freeney, and R. Mathis didn't make it that year but I remember they both made at the same time in another year.  

 

Edgerrin James was not a Colt anymore, replaced by Addai and Rhodes at RB.  M. Harrison barely played, caught a couple passes in the Pro-Bowl warm-up, he must have been injured.  Reggie caught a long TD pass.   

 

It was cool to have those Colt players introduced last with the announcer saying "From the Super Bowl Champions Indianapolis Colts", those 5 Colt plays walked on side by side onto the field. Too bad no defensive player was represented but if you remember, our run defense sucked in the 2006 season, but became formidable during the playoff run.  Some things are just explainable?

 

[Goatface Killah]

Tarik was a HOF worthy player. However, he will never make it because he lacks the honors a lineman needs to get in there. And the only reason he lacks those achievements is because of guys like Jon Ogden, Orlando Pace, Tony Boselli, Willie Roaf, Walter Jones, etc

[Coltscrazy]

His quickness was insane.  The refs actually thought he jumped some times because of it.  He was one of the best tackles I've seen play.  Look at who is considered a great OT today.  Tarik would kill them.  I agree with those that say he should be in the hall of fame.

[a06cc]

Glenn was very underrated. Manning even begged him to not retire after the SB win. Besides false starts he was exceptional. Saturday to me during those years was probably the 4th best. You had guys like Jake Scott, Lijia and Diem on the line. I remember hearing a Mic’d Up with Saturday arguing with another player. The guy was yelling that he sucked. Manning masked a lot of deficiencies with his quick release. Every team knew it as well. The anchor was Tarik. After he left it was the end of an era. 

[Jaredfor3]

Tariq Glenn should be in Colts ring of honor. He didn’t let anybody hit Peyton. 

[Matabix]

15 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

He was a 3-time Pro Bowler

Thought Ogden beat him out every year? Not sure why I don't remember him in the pro bowl.

[coltfaninnewyork]

Very good player 

[21isSuperman]

8 hours ago, Matabix said:

Thought Ogden beat him out every year? Not sure why I don't remember him in the pro bowl.

 

[CR91]

On 2/16/2019 at 8:05 AM, IinD said:

Him retiring was the beginning of the downward trend for us on the oline.

 

Ugoh and Charlie Johnson weren't going to fill in for Tarik's loss. Then we had some arena league reject playing RG for a while (no idea what his name was). Peyton really did make chicken salad out of chicken % his last few years.

 

 

 

Mike Pollack

[IinD]

2 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

Mike Pollack

Pollack was a pick of ours...

Kyle Devan, just looked it up 

[NewEra]

On 2/16/2019 at 8:35 AM, MPStack said:

 

I think Adam Meadows was the King of false starts, not Glenn.

I was thinking more Diem. That dude would drive me nuts with his false starts

[Coffeedrinker]

Tarik was a devastating run blocker.  His ability to crash down the line at take out the DT at the snap was THE single biggest reason why the stretch play and PAP off the stretch play was so effective.  But Glenn struggled with speed rushers his entire career, until the Colts drafted Freeney.  Facing Freeney in practice, greatly improved his ability to handle speed rushers and that was why he went to 2 probowls and a third as an alternate in the latter part of his career.

 

As a run blocker, if Glenn got his hands on a guy it was over, he would drive the guy wherever Glenn wanted to take him.

 

As a pass blocker, he was technically sound, stayed flat footed, good extension on his arms and had surprisingly quick feet and good lower body agility.  

 

Most don't remember, in 2006, Glenn was held out of training camp because he came in overweight (there were rumors that he was pushing 380).  I think the same thing happened the following year, he was overweight and didn't have it in him anymore to lose the weight so he retired (again that is speculation on my part based on some comments I heard from a couple of the coaches).  It's too bad, he probably had a good 2-3 more years in him if he could have kept his weight under control.

 

So how good was Glenn?  He was not hall of fame worthy or anything like that and from 1997 to 2002 he was a very good, but not elite LT (about on par with what AC has been providing every year), from 2003 to 2006 he was an elite LT, easily a top 5 in the NFL during that time and perhaps even a top 2.  

 

 

 

[CurBeatElite]

On 2/15/2019 at 10:54 PM, DarkSuperman said:

Guys like Manning, Harrison, James, got all the credit back then. I would hear people talk about Jeff Saturday more than Tarik.

 

Saturday was a good C, but he got a lot of credit because of Peyton.  Peyton changed the game with how he changed the offense at the line of scrimmage.  Saturday, IMO, got a lot of very positive publicity because he was considered a very cerebral C playing with arguably the most cerebral QB who has ever played in the NFL.  Physically, I think Saturday was a pretty average C .. but he was able to keep up with Peyton's audibles at the line and he looked very active in doing it.

 

I could be wrong, but I think Tarik was a more critical piece of that line in protecting Peyton's blind-side for so long.

 

 

On 2/16/2019 at 3:48 PM, a06cc said:

Glenn was very underrated. Manning even begged him to not retire after the SB win. Besides false starts he was exceptional. Saturday to me during those years was probably the 4th best. You had guys like Jake Scott, Lijia and Diem on the line. I remember hearing a Mic’d Up with Saturday arguing with another player. The guy was yelling that he sucked. Manning masked a lot of deficiencies with his quick release. Every team knew it as well. The anchor was Tarik. After he left it was the end of an era. 

 

I tend to agree with most of this... though, I think Saturday was probably better than Scott and Lilja.  Again, I think he was just an average physical center (in terms of being big and strong and athletic), but he was able to mask a lot of that by being able to keep on the same page with Peyton (which in turn masked a lot of deficiencies on our entire offense).

 

I will say the one thing that was also very impressive about Saturday was his ability to stay healthy.  In 12 years as a Colts starter, there were only 2 seasons where he didn't start all 16 games (2004 he started 14/16 and 2008 he started 12/16).  

 

I think Ryan Kelly is a far superior physical specimen and overall C than Saturday, but in just 3 seasons in the NFL, he's missed more games than Saturday and Tarik Glenn did in their combined 22 seasons as starters for the Colts (Kelly has missed a total of 13 -- 16 games as a rookie, 7 in year 2, and 12 in year 3  -- after Saturday became a full-time starter he and Glenn both only missed 6 games each in their 12 and 10 year spans as Colts starting OLs).

 

To Tarik's credit, even though he had some weight/motivational issues late in his career, he started all 16 games in 9 of his 10 seasons in the NFL, with only one season where he missed time and played 10 games (2003).

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

Tarik was underappreciated, until he was gone! Although a like Costanso, Tarik, was much better.

[cbear]

History has been kind to him it seems.  I remember how fans used to pummel him because of his false starts and that led to some unfair criticisms and that diminished him in many Colts fans eyes imo.  I'm glad he seems more appreciated now. 

[a06cc]

11 hours ago, CurBeatElite said:

 

Saturday was a good C, but he got a lot of credit because of Peyton.  Peyton changed the game with how he changed the offense at the line of scrimmage.  Saturday, IMO, got a lot of very positive publicity because he was considered a very cerebral C playing with arguably the most cerebral QB who has ever played in the NFL.  Physically, I think Saturday was a pretty average C .. but he was able to keep up with Peyton's audibles at the line and he looked very active in doing it.

 

I could be wrong, but I think Tarik was a more critical piece of that line in protecting Peyton's blind-side for so long.

 

 

 

I tend to agree with most of this... though, I think Saturday was probably better than Scott and Lilja.  Again, I think he was just an average physical center (in terms of being big and strong and athletic), but he was able to mask a lot of that by being able to keep on the same page with Peyton (which in turn masked a lot of deficiencies on our entire offense).

 

I will say the one thing that was also very impressive about Saturday was his ability to stay healthy.  In 12 years as a Colts starter, there were only 2 seasons where he didn't start all 16 games (2004 he started 14/16 and 2008 he started 12/16).  

 

I think Ryan Kelly is a far superior physical specimen and overall C than Saturday, but in just 3 seasons in the NFL, he's missed more games than Saturday and Tarik Glenn did in their combined 22 seasons as starters for the Colts (Kelly has missed a total of 13 -- 16 games as a rookie, 7 in year 2, and 12 in year 3  -- after Saturday became a full-time starter he and Glenn both only missed 6 games each in their 12 and 10 year spans as Colts starting OLs).

 

To Tarik's credit, even though he had some weight/motivational issues late in his career, he started all 16 games in 9 of his 10 seasons in the NFL, with only one season where he missed time and played 10 games (2003).

I’ll agree with you Saturday was always available. Kelly is starting to worry me though. 

[Matabix]

Ask Vince Wilfork how physical Saturday is. Solo 1 on 1 block he pancaked his butt in the end zone in the 2006 afc Championship game

[CurBeatElite]

10 hours ago, a06cc said:

I’ll agree with you Saturday was always available. Kelly is starting to worry me though. 

 

Yes... in terms of football skills and being a good player, I think he's the best C I have seen on the Colts since I started following in 1994.

 

However, we need him on the field full-time for him to reach his potential and become considered a great player for the team.  We are lucky some of the back-ups were able to step in last year and not miss too much, but IMO our o-line was way better with a healthy Kelly than with Boehm or Andrews.