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Pretty good group, especially if Doyle comes back healthy:

 

Doyle

Ebron

Alie Cox

Swoope

Travis

Hewitt

 

Its going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Doyle, Alie Cox and Hewitt can block.

 

Enron is a mismatch in the passing game and both Swoope and Travis have potential in the passing game.

 

Who do you think will be let go? I don’t know if they can use the practice squad to hide somebody but this group can be one of the team’s strengths. There’s untapped potential in Alie Cox, Swoope and Travis and maybe they find a gem in the late rounds or an UFA. Maybe find a trade partner for one of them. 

   Like I said, its going to be interesting to see how this shakes out.

 

 

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If I had to guess I'd say Swoope and Travis dont make the 53 man, assuming everyone else is 100% healthy and they bring Hewitt back.

 

Ebron fulfils the passing threat TE role
Doyle / Allie-Cox are great dual blockers / receiving threats

Hewitt played a good role as the blocker / fullback specialist

 

- Travis has potential, but doesn’t block as well as Allie-Cox nor pose as much of a receiving threat as Ebron.

- Swoope is a good receiving threat, but doesn’t really do much else and Ebron fills that role already.

 

Just my 2 cents.

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10 minutes ago, coltsfeva said:

 

Enron is a mismatch in the passing game

 

 

Yeah, Enron "shreds" defenses in the passing game. :) 

 

Sorry, had to bring up the "shredding of evidence" by Enron. I hate auto-correct too. :) 

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I can't find it now, but I was reading somewhere that there is a chance the Colts may release Doyle.   I thought it was a Bleacher Report article.   I know it was probably just click bait, but who knows.   He will cost $5.4 million against the cap, but the Colts can afford it so I hope they keep him and I think they will.  

 

This isn't the one I seen, but they say the same thing.

 

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/NFL-2019-salary-cap-cut-free-agency-128728685/#128728685_24

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29 minutes ago, Chucklez said:

If I had to guess I'd say Swoope and Travis dont make the 53 man, assuming everyone else is 100% healthy and they bring Hewitt back.

 

Ebron fulfils the passing threat TE role
Doyle / Allie-Cox are great dual blockers / receiving threats

Hewitt played a good role as the blocker / fullback specialist

 

- Travis has potential, but doesn’t block as well as Allie-Cox nor pose as much of a receiving threat as Ebron.

- Swoope is a good receiving threat, but doesn’t really do much else and Ebron fills that role already.

 

Just my 2 cents.

I don't think Swoope or Travis are on the team anymore.

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34 minutes ago, krunk said:

I don't think Swoope or Travis are on the team anymore.

   Travis is on IR but you’re right about Swoope, he’s an unrestricted FA.

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59 minutes ago, Myles said:

I can't find it now, but I was reading somewhere that there is a chance the Colts may release Doyle.   I thought it was a Bleacher Report article.   I know it was probably just click bait, but who knows.   He will cost $5.4 million against the cap, but the Colts can afford it so I hope they keep him and I think they will.  

 

This isn't the one I seen, but they say the same thing.

 

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/NFL-2019-salary-cap-cut-free-agency-128728685/#128728685_24

I'd be so mad if we released Doyle. Definitely is the most reliable target. 

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It would be kind of dope if we got Hockensen to pair with Ebron.

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My opinion would be to keep 4. Ebron, Doyle, Allie-Cox & Travis. Im not ready to write off Ross Travis, he has excellent size, hands and speed. 

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1 hour ago, Myles said:

I can't find it now, but I was reading somewhere that there is a chance the Colts may release Doyle.   I thought it was a Bleacher Report article.   I know it was probably just click bait, but who knows.   He will cost $5.4 million against the cap, but the Colts can afford it so I hope they keep him and I think they will.  

 

This isn't the one I seen, but they say the same thing.

 

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/NFL-2019-salary-cap-cut-free-agency-128728685/#128728685_24

The article I read  was concerning trades teams should make.  The trade they recommended for the Colts is trading Doyle to the Saints for a 4th. 

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Swope should be gone.  Can't stay healthy and really is easily replaceable. 

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2 hours ago, Myles said:

I can't find it now, but I was reading somewhere that there is a chance the Colts may release Doyle.   I thought it was a Bleacher Report article.   I know it was probably just click bait, but who knows.   He will cost $5.4 million against the cap, but the Colts can afford it so I hope they keep him and I think they will.  

 

This isn't the one I seen, but they say the same thing.

 

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/NFL-2019-salary-cap-cut-free-agency-128728685/#128728685_24

When you have plenty of cap space already, it makes no sense to release a player unless you are sure to replace him with someone better.  I don't know what it would take to replace Doyle, but its a high-ish draft pick I'd like to spend elsewhere this spring.

 

If injuries and availability are real concerns and he's a threat to hog a roster spot, then I can understand the logic.

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Don't forget Billy Brown.... He'll be battling Ross Travis for the last spot. Let's not forget Travis was in line to beat out both Swoope and Alie-Cox until he blew out his knee in the final pre-season game.

 

Doyle

Ebron

Alie-Cox

Receiving Threat - Brown/Travis

 

Swoope and Hewitt are FA's aren't they?

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3 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

Yeah, Enron "shreds" defenses in the passing game. :) 

 

Sorry, had to bring up the "shredding of evidence" by Enron. I hate auto-correct too. :) 

 

I like that you had to explain the joke. 

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The TE group certainly has some questions.

 

Doyle has hip issues, will be 29 and is in the last year of his contract.

 

Mo is decent depth...but he's not really a TE2 type...yet

 

Ebron was a stud, but he's not a blocker. And now that teams have had plenty of time to see Reich's offense...I doubt we will see Ebron running free on a corner and seam routes like he was.

 

If they bring in some playmakers at WR...that might change things. But I think another TE weapon will be necessary in the next year or two.

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22 minutes ago, shastamasta said:

The TE group certainly has some questions.

 

Doyle has hip issues, will be 29 and is in the last year of his contract.

 

Mo is decent depth...but he's not really a TE2 type...yet

 

Ebron was a stud, but he's not a blocker. And now that teams have had plenty of time to see Reich's offense...I doubt we will see Ebron running free on a corner and seam routes like he was.

 

If they bring in some playmakers at WR...that might change things. But I think another TE weapon will be necessary in the next year or two.

The thing with Ebron is his is listed as a TE but in reality he is a big WR. 

Doyle is 29 but he is a possession TE and don't need great speed to be effective.

We also have Hewitt, Brown, Holmes and Travis on the roster.

I would think there is a couple of talented TEs in this bunch that can play.

 

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1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

The thing with Ebron is his is listed as a TE but in reality he is a big WR. 

 

 

I bet you're proud knowing that you think just like me.

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5 hours ago, chad72 said:

I hate auto-correct too. :) 

Just wanted to say.....

 

"I hate auto correct" = "My thoughts are not worth reviewing before hitting send"

 

:headspin:

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Doyle recover is a question mark. Pretty serious injury and know hip surgery might be on deck. Doyle and Ebron are set to be FA’s next year. I could definitely see colts drafting a TE fairly high in April. Reich loves using multiple TE’s and I think one might be needed due to the uncertainty of Doyle. 

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2 hours ago, DougDew said:

I bet you're proud knowing that you think just like me.

Yeah I brought that up in the thread where some wanted a 6-4 receiver drafted or signed.
My thoughts were Doyle fits that description.

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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Yeah I brought that up in the thread where some wanted a 6-4 receiver drafted or signed.
My thoughts were Doyle fits that description.

So does Ebron.

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56 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

So does Ebron.

 

Yeah, but when Ebron is in they're basically saying "Hey, we're gonna throw it here", which is a situational disadvantage in a competitive game. Would be nice to have more complete guys like Doyle and Mo. 

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2 hours ago, boo2202 said:

Doyle recover is a question mark. Pretty serious injury and know hip surgery might be on deck. Doyle and Ebron are set to be FA’s next year. I could definitely see colts drafting a TE fairly high in April. Reich loves using multiple TE’s and I think one might be needed due to the uncertainty of Doyle. 

 

I kinda like Irv Smith Jr, and I don't think he would take as much draft capital as Hockenson or Fant. 

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6 minutes ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:

Except we'd likely have to use our 1st to snag him, and it's like 13th on the list of glaring needs.

May or may not.  It depends what is on the board around our pick.

Tight End is a pretty important position in this offense.  If the Colts

have a high evaluation on him then I'd be cool with the pick. Especially

if it's head and shoulders above the need positions. Or maybe he's still on the board in the 2nd round long enough for us to use our extra pick on him.

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3 minutes ago, krunk said:

May or may not.  It depends what is on the board around our pick.

Tight End is a pretty important position in this offense.  If the Colts

have a high evaluation on him then I'd be cool with the pick. Especially

if it's head and shoulders above the need positions. Or maybe he's still on the board in the 2nd round long enough for us to use our extra pick on him.

 

Most mocks have him in the 1st, generally before our pick at 26, but I wouldn't be opposed to a guy like Irv Smith Jr who would likely be there with our latter 2nd rounder. 

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1 minute ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:

 

Most mocks have him in the 1st, generally before our pick at 26, but I wouldn't be opposed to a guy like Irv Smith Jr who would likely be there with our latter 2nd rounder. 

Not too concerned with the mocks.  Draft day often pans out a bit differently.    We shall see, but I'm not really beating on the table for us to get him.  I just think it would be dope if we ended up doing that.

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7 minutes ago, krunk said:

Not too concerned with the mocks.  Draft day often pans out a bit differently.    We shall see, but I'm not really beating on the table for us to get him.  I just think it would be dope if we ended up doing that.

 

Speaking of, I'm generally confused about how it's all going to play out. My insight tells me that Ballard will go Dline early and often, with a WR and some secondary (S, CB) guys sprinkled in, but like you said, who knows how the board falls. If dline gets completely ransacked early (which is likely), then where do they go? At 26, they could probably have one of the top WR, TE, S, or CB in the draft, or does Ballard stick to his guns and go with maybe the 7th or 8th best dline guy? I'm hoping that some premier edge guys hit FA, and we have some success in signing 1 or 2, so they have more flexibility within the draft. I'd love to come out of the draft/FA with another playmaker or two at WR/TE, another quality CB, a playmaker to put opposite Hooker in the backfield, and a few pieces for the dline. A lot, I know, but we have the resources to really nail this offseason, and I'm fairly certain they'll get the job done. 

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4 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:

So does Ebron.

Yeah you are right. I meant to say Ebron when I made that comment. lol

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14 hours ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:

 

Speaking of, I'm generally confused about how it's all going to play out. My insight tells me that Ballard will go Dline early and often, with a WR and some secondary (S, CB) guys sprinkled in, but like you said, who knows how the board falls. If dline gets completely ransacked early (which is likely), then where do they go? At 26, they could probably have one of the top WR, TE, S, or CB in the draft, or does Ballard stick to his guns and go with maybe the 7th or 8th best dline guy? I'm hoping that some premier edge guys hit FA, and we have some success in signing 1 or 2, so they have more flexibility within the draft. I'd love to come out of the draft/FA with another playmaker or two at WR/TE, another quality CB, a playmaker to put opposite Hooker in the backfield, and a few pieces for the dline. A lot, I know, but we have the resources to really nail this offseason, and I'm fairly certain they'll get the job done. 

When it's all said and done I would like to see us have enough tools offensively to be as explosive as Kansas City.  I think we have some young pieces that we need to know more about. Guys who have speed and height between Cain, Fountain, Ishmael, Marcus Johnson to replace or give competition to some of the guys we have right now.  We've still got Inman, plus we have FA and the Draft.  I'm hoping most of what we have is already on the roster, or can get taken care of during FA. I'm sticking with my prediction that we will probably draft 1 WR or an additional TE like Hochensen or one of the others that you mentioned.  

 

The bulk of the draft I would like to see devoted to the defense, however I think it would be good to pick up one of these pass rushers in FA if possible.  Preston Smith, maybe Flowers(kind of so so on him), Dee Ford, maybe even Justin Houston.  Houston has a little age on him, but I say you can't take him totally off the radar because what usually happens is the bulk of the guys you want to get usually get resigned and then you have to choose from what's left over in most cases.  Or if the player is not resigned the asking price is way too high. If the price is way too high then we know Ballard is going to pass.  Justin Houston had 9 sacks last year, he fits the culture here and I think with his age we could work out a short term deal if we needed to.  I prefer a young guy but I'm not totally against Houston to be honest.

 

 

When this whole FA period, draft and offseason is done I think we should have a significantly improved team on both sides of the football. I'm really excited about what the Colts will look like in 2019. I think we will be one of the upper echelon clubs this year.

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I love our depth at TE as long as Ebron is our #2. I loved him playing behind Doyle, of course. I really would love to see Ross Travis have a tremendous TC and Preseason and make our 53 man roster.

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