Mock Offseason + Draft

[tvturner]

It's very early, I usually don't start until after the Super Bowl concludes, therefore I haven't done a lot of scouting yet but we can roll with it.

 

Re-Signings:

Mark Glowinski, 3 years, 18m

Adam Vinatieri, 1 year 3m

Margus Hunt 1 year, 4m

Pierre Desir 2 years, 12m

Mike Mitchell 1 year, 2m

Najee Goode 1 year, 1m

Dontrelle Inman 1 year, 3m

Clayton Geathers 1 year, 3m

Jihad Ward 1 year, 1m

Luke Rhodes 1 year, 1m

Chester Rogers 1 year, 2m

Zach Pascal 1 year 2m

Matthias Farley 1 year, 2m

 

Free Agency: 

Tyrell Williams WR, 3 years 27m

Jermon Bushrod OL, 1 year 3m

Trey Flowers DE, 3 years 40m

Bryce Callahan CB, 2 years 16m

 

Draft: 

R1, No. 26: DeAndre Baker CB, Georgia

R2, No. 34: Christian Wilkins DL, Clemson

R2, No. 59: Marquise Brown WR, Oklahoma

R3, No. 90: Austin Bryant DL, Clemson

R4, No. 123: Vosean Joseph LB, Florida

R4, No. 129 (Comp): Bryce Love RB, Stanford

R5, No. 154: Mitch Hyatt OT, Clemson

R6, No. 187: Michael Jackson CB, Miami

R7, No. 218: Chuma Edoga OL, USC

 

[UKColt13]

If you’re drafting DeAndre Baker then I don’t think you need Bryce Callaghan. Especially if Desir returns as well. I think the chances of Trey Flowers hitting the open market are very slim. Elite pass rushers don’t hit the market very often.

 

Also don’t think you need to bring back Chester Rogers or Zach Pascal if you’re bringing back Inman, signing Williams and then drafting Brown. Remember we also have Deon Cain coming back as well. 

 

I doubt Bushrod accepts that contract and I don’t think he’d take a backup job to Glowinski.

 

I like it for the most part. I haven’t done a whole lot of scouting for the draft yet so I can’t really comment on the picks yet.

[tvturner]

8 hours ago, UKColt13 said:

If you’re drafting DeAndre Baker then I don’t think you need Bryce Callaghan. Especially if Desir returns as well. I think the chances of Trey Flowers hitting the open market are very slim. Elite pass rushers don’t hit the market very often.

 

Also don’t think you need to bring back Chester Rogers or Zach Pascal if you’re bringing back Inman, signing Williams and then drafting Brown. Remember we also have Deon Cain coming back as well. 

 

I agree with you on Flowers. Can never have enough CBs imo

 

I brought back Pascal and Rogers to create depth at the WR spot and get some competition going

I'm a big fan of Cain but he's unproven

[esmort]

On 1/16/2019 at 1:34 AM, tvturner said:

It's very early, I usually don't start until after the Super Bowl concludes, therefore I haven't done a lot of scouting yet but we can roll with it.

 

Re-Signings:

Mark Glowinski, 3 years, 18m

Adam Vinatieri, 1 year 3m

Margus Hunt 1 year, 4m

Pierre Desir 2 years, 12m

Mike Mitchell 1 year, 2m

Najee Goode 1 year, 1m

Dontrelle Inman 1 year, 3m

Clayton Geathers 1 year, 3m

Jihad Ward 1 year, 1m

Luke Rhodes 1 year, 1m

Chester Rogers 1 year, 2m

Zach Pascal 1 year 2m

Matthias Farley 1 year, 2m

 

Free Agency: 

Tyrell Williams WR, 3 years 27m

Jermon Bushrod OL, 1 year 3m

Trey Flowers DE, 3 years 40m

Bryce Callahan CB, 2 years 16m

 

Draft: 

R1, No. 26: DeAndre Baker CB, Georgia

R2, No. 34: Christian Wilkins DL, Clemson

R2, No. 59: Marquise Brown WR, Oklahoma

R3, No. 90: Austin Bryant DL, Clemson

R4, No. 123: Vosean Joseph LB, Florida

R4, No. 129 (Comp): Bryce Love RB, Stanford

R5, No. 154: Mitch Hyatt OT, Clemson

R6, No. 187: Michael Jackson CB, Miami

R7, No. 218: Chuma Edoga OL, USC

 

 

I like Tyrell Williams and would like to get him at that price, but I think that is where the  bidding starts and he likely end up with more.

 

Would also like Trey Flowers if he hits the market, but he will likely cost a lot more than your estimate ... Spotrac has his FA market value at 5yrs /~ $76.8 million.

[twfish]

This will go for any mock this year, but im not a fan of taking a CB early in the draft. With the way our scheme is setup it is designed to be "cheaper" for CB's since it is so zone heavy that we aren't relying on a corner back  that is a physical freak, therefor they are easier too come by. If we want to help our secondary, picks and money spent on the d-line for pass rushers will help more than a top CB.

[boo2202]

On 1/16/2019 at 12:34 AM, tvturner said:

It's very early, I usually don't start until after the Super Bowl concludes, therefore I haven't done a lot of scouting yet but we can roll with it.

 

Re-Signings:

Mark Glowinski, 3 years, 18m

Adam Vinatieri, 1 year 3m

Margus Hunt 1 year, 4m

Pierre Desir 2 years, 12m

Mike Mitchell 1 year, 2m

Najee Goode 1 year, 1m

Dontrelle Inman 1 year, 3m

Clayton Geathers 1 year, 3m

Jihad Ward 1 year, 1m

Luke Rhodes 1 year, 1m

Chester Rogers 1 year, 2m

Zach Pascal 1 year 2m

Matthias Farley 1 year, 2m

 

Free Agency: 

Tyrell Williams WR, 3 years 27m

Jermon Bushrod OL, 1 year 3m

Trey Flowers DE, 3 years 40m

Bryce Callahan CB, 2 years 16m

 

Draft: 

R1, No. 26: DeAndre Baker CB, Georgia

R2, No. 34: Christian Wilkins DL, Clemson

R2, No. 59: Marquise Brown WR, Oklahoma

R3, No. 90: Austin Bryant DL, Clemson

R4, No. 123: Vosean Joseph LB, Florida

R4, No. 129 (Comp): Bryce Love RB, Stanford

R5, No. 154: Mitch Hyatt OT, Clemson

R6, No. 187: Michael Jackson CB, Miami

R7, No. 218: Chuma Edoga OL, USC

 

Oh man does that look good on paper. Getting flowers in FA then Wilkins in the draft, yea sign me up for that. Drafting brown is just icing on the cake. Kid knows how to get open. Throw in Austin Bryant who’s very underrated due to Clemson’s Dline talent. Yep I like it.

[BleedBlu8792]

2 hours ago, twfish said:

This will go for any mock this year, but im not a fan of taking a CB early in the draft. With the way our scheme is setup it is designed to be "cheaper" for CB's since it is so zone heavy that we aren't relying on a corner back  that is a physical freak, therefor they are easier too come by. If we want to help our secondary, picks and money spent on the d-line for pass rushers will help more than a top CB.

 

That's not necessarily true. The last time the Colts ran a close variation of this defense they had 1st and 2nd round corners (Jackson and Hayden) playing in their defense. Quincy Wilson's physical attributes is exactly what they Colts are looking for, especially when they want to run Cover-3 Quarters, which has man coverage responsibilities. No, you don't grab zone corners if you're drafting in the top 15-20, but the end of the first and especially the second is where the top end zone corners are typically drafted. 

[twfish]

Just now, BleedBlu8792 said:

 

That's not necessarily true. The last time the Colts ran a close variation of this defense they had 1st and 2nd round corners (Jackson and Hayden) playing in their defense. Quincy Wilson's physical attributes is exactly what they Colts are looking for, especially when they want to run Cover-3 Quarters, which has man coverage responsibilities. No, you don't grab zone corners if you're drafting in the top 15-20, but the end of the first and especially the second is where the top end zone corners are typically drafted. 

If it is truly BPA then whatever, also if there is a strong need for one which i dont believe there is. Quincy was brought in before we made the switch. FWIW I am all in on being a heavy cover 3 team, we have the safety to do it and I personally am not a huge fan of heavy tampa defense. A pass rusher or even possibly a WR is more important in my eyes than running a cover 3.

[Dark Superman]

On 1/16/2019 at 1:34 AM, tvturner said:

It's very early, I usually don't start until after the Super Bowl concludes, therefore I haven't done a lot of scouting yet but we can roll with it.

 

Re-Signings:

Mark Glowinski, 3 years, 18m

Adam Vinatieri, 1 year 3m

Margus Hunt 1 year, 4m

Pierre Desir 2 years, 12m

Mike Mitchell 1 year, 2m

Najee Goode 1 year, 1m

Dontrelle Inman 1 year, 3m

Clayton Geathers 1 year, 3m

Jihad Ward 1 year, 1m

Luke Rhodes 1 year, 1m

Chester Rogers 1 year, 2m

Zach Pascal 1 year 2m

Matthias Farley 1 year, 2m

 

Free Agency: 

Tyrell Williams WR, 3 years 27m

Jermon Bushrod OL, 1 year 3m

Trey Flowers DE, 3 years 40m

Bryce Callahan CB, 2 years 16m

 

Draft: 

R1, No. 26: DeAndre Baker CB, Georgia

R2, No. 34: Christian Wilkins DL, Clemson

R2, No. 59: Marquise Brown WR, Oklahoma

R3, No. 90: Austin Bryant DL, Clemson

R4, No. 123: Vosean Joseph LB, Florida

R4, No. 129 (Comp): Bryce Love RB, Stanford

R5, No. 154: Mitch Hyatt OT, Clemson

R6, No. 187: Michael Jackson CB, Miami

R7, No. 218: Chuma Edoga OL, USC

 

Solid.

[throwing BBZ]

54 minutes ago, DarkSuperman said:

Solid.

 

Comedy mostly.

[tvturner]

20 hours ago, twfish said:

A pass rusher or even possibly a WR is more important in my eyes than running a cover 3.

I wouldn't sleep on both Clemson DL

Marquise Brown is just about TY Hilton 2.0

 

But I understand where you're coming from

[twfish]

51 minutes ago, tvturner said:

I wouldn't sleep on both Clemson DL

Marquise Brown is just about TY Hilton 2.0

 

But I understand where you're coming from

Oh, I'm not sleeping on any Clemson D-line man. There is about a 0% chance Wilkins falls into the second. I have serious doubts he falls down to us in the first