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Yep, I have only mentioned it a couple of times :) .

 

I am not surprised at all. If he is healthy, Flacco does not turn it over and fits the Jaguars' style of play they want to play without Bortles' downside. He does not get flustered easily.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, The Old Crow said:

Hoping the Ravens get at least a third round pick for Flacco. We lost our #2 this year to move up and get Lamar. 

 

I am sure they want the Jaguar's second rounder for a SB winning QB but they are not in the driver's seat with his dead cap hit looming, they will settle for a third rounder and possibly another later round pick like the 6th, IMO. 

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You may be right. I would love a second rounder , but who knows. They could release him after 1 June to spread the 16 million hit. Hopefully , the Dolphins or Jags get in a bidding war to secure his services. At three years, 63 million , not the greatest bargain, but par for the course of a decent NFL QB 

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1 minute ago, horseshoecrabs said:

Yea, the hand writing was already on the wall for Flacco, when they drafted Lamar. but he seemed to be a good sport about it. 

 

He’s a great guy and family man. I would say an above average , steady QB, but never elite. Great run in the SB, a class guy, and a certain Ravens Ring of Honor guy. As a fan, very thankful to him. He deserves to land in a good place where he can certainly help another team. 

Its not quite like Manning and Luck, but similar in it’s a move to the future with a smaller QB cap hit for awhile. 

Lamar had a great first year, but is he Geno Smith or RGIII, or can he morphe into something better. Time will tell 

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41 minutes ago, The Old Crow said:

Hoping the Ravens get at least a third round pick for Flacco. We lost our #2 this year to move up and get Lamar. 

Are you confident in Lamar?  He screams an African American Tim Tebow to me.  (I think their completion percentage is roughly the same .. both made the playoffs and Tebow won his on a miracle play.. almost like the comeback Lamar did against the Chargers..)

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2 minutes ago, JimJaime said:

Are you confident in Lamar?  He screams an African American Tim Tebow to me.  (I think their completion percentage is roughly the same .. both made the playoffs and Tebow won his on a miracle play.. almost like the comeback Lamar did against the Chargers..)

 

Lets put it this way, I’m skeptical about Lamar. I think he’s a hard working, fine young man , who had a great rookie year. The Ravens don’t win the division without him. 

Thst being said, we all know you can’t win long term running an option and exposing your QB. He has to become a more accurate passer, and effective pocket QB . His completion rate at Louisville, and in the pros was very poor. It has to be improved. However, he is certainly a talent and a game changer. He will put in the work , that’s for sure, but the question is can he turn into a more effective passing NFL QB . 

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52 minutes ago, The Old Crow said:

 

Lets put it this way, I’m skeptical about Lamar. I think he’s a hard working, fine young man , who had a great rookie year. The Ravens don’t win the division without him. 

Thst being said, we all know you can’t win long term running an option and exposing your QB. He has to become a more accurate passer, and effective pocket QB . His completion rate at Louisville, and in the pros was very poor. It has to be improved. However, he is certainly a talent and a game changer. He will put in the work , that’s for sure, but the question is can he turn into a more effective passing NFL QB . 

 

Vince Young 2.0 ceiling. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, chad72 said:

Yep, I have only mentioned it a couple of times :) .

 

I am not surprised at all. If he is healthy, Flacco does not turn it over and fits the Jaguars' style of play they want to play without Bortles' downside. He does not get flustered easily.

 

 

 

 

 

Flacco was benched in part because he had a 2-1 TD/INT Ratio..... he most definitely turns it over.

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11 hours ago, RollerColt said:

Also wonder if they take a look at Foles. 

 

personally i dont think he would be a good fit there.  of the teams that need QBs i think he would fit in with the giants the best.  i doubt the eagles would trade him to a rival though 

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4 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:

Thats what i'm afraid of.

personally i dont think he would be a good fit there.  of the teams that need QBs i think he would fit in with the giants the best.  i doubt the eagles would trade him to a rival though 

 

edit- i meant to quote you both at once, guess i did it wrong and made two posts out of it

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With a much lesser QB class in the draft, I definitely see not-untalented teams like Jax and Miami exploring the Veteran QB option (like Denver and Washington did unsuccessfully last year).  It’s hard to predict, though.  Foles, Flacco, and Brissett would all be available for the right price, but who’s to say what team would want which, what price they’d pay, or at what point they’d say, “Screw it!”, and take a shot in the draft?

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Jaguars = Flacco

Bengals = Foles 

Redskins = Brissett to the Redskins makes a lot of sense. Gives them an experienced starter until Smith is ready. Could win the job long term, or be a solid back up.

 

If Foles ends up with Jags, where does that leave Flacco? No way he goes to a division rival, and there just aren't many teams that need QB's.

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Jacksonville being bad this season was one of the most satisfying things to me not gonna lie. They made some noise in 2017 with a 4th place schedule and not having to face Watson or Luck once. Obviously with a 4th place schedule and maybe Joe Flacco, they can make some noise.

 

But they got -3 million bucks in cap space. That team really screwed themselves over banking on BLAKE BORTLES

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4 hours ago, DarkSuperman said:

The Jaguars logic in building a championship team is a joke. Let's spend $20-$25 million on a 34-year-old QB and go for broke. Can they even afford Flacco without having to cut half their roster?

 

I'd assume Flacco will be cut. He might get close to 20M but it can be structured in a way that the cap hit is less than 20M or it might be incentive based. He doesn't have exactly stellar track record and shouldn't be in high demand but we'll see.

 

Cutting Carlos Hyde, Malik Jackso or Marcell Dareus gives them about 15M extra cap space. Bortles as post-june cut is another 10M.

 

And yeah they blew it last year banking on Bortles and D generating turnovers like last year.

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7 hours ago, NorthernBlue said:

But they got -3 million bucks in cap space. That team really screwed themselves over banking on BLAKE BORTLES

 

2 hours ago, Finball said:

Cutting Carlos Hyde, Malik Jackso or Marcell Dareus gives them about 15M extra cap space. Bortles as post-june cut is another 10M.

 

How does a team go from having over $100 million (or close to that) in cap space a couple of years ago to having -$3 million in cap space just 2 to 3 years later? 

 

Jacksonsville should draft a QB or trade for a young guy. Signing franchise QBs from other teams does not seem to lead to winning. Drew Brees is the only guy I can think of who has succeeded with a new team in the last 20 years or so (by "succeeded", I mean "led them far into playoffs"). If I am not mistaken, all the playoff teams other than the Saints started QBs the teams drafted or who had not played for other teams. 

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9 hours ago, NorthernBlue said:

Jacksonville being bad this season was one of the most satisfying things to me not gonna lie. They made some noise in 2017 with a 4th place schedule and not having to face Watson or Luck once. Obviously with a 4th place schedule and maybe Joe Flacco, they can make some noise.

 

But they got -3 million bucks in cap space. That team really screwed themselves over banking on BLAKE BORTLES

Their fanbase was getting cocky there for a moment, now it's crickets again haha . Watching them fail and go 5-11 was wonderful. 

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2 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

 

How does a team go from having over $100 million (or close to that) in cap space a couple of years ago to having -$3 million in cap space just 2 to 3 years later? 

 

Jacksonsville should draft a QB or trade for a young guy. Signing franchise QBs from other teams does not seem to lead to winning. Drew Brees is the only guy I can think of who has succeeded with a new team in the last 20 years or so (by "succeeded", I mean "led them far into playoffs"). If I am not mistaken, all the playoff teams other than the Saints started QBs the teams drafted or who had not played for other teams. 

 

I think they should go the draft route but I don't think they will. Trade or FA, depending on what happens with Foles and Flacco. Coughlin doesn't strike me as very patient guy.

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3 minutes ago, Finball said:

 

I think they should go the draft route but I don't think they will. Trade or FA, depending on what happens with Foles and Flacco. Coughlin doesn't strike me as very patient guy.

 

You're probably right. I think my team (Vikings) should have drafted a QB last year. Now, they have a lot of money tied to Cousins who probably won't get them anywhere, given his history. We have to cut players and restructure players in order to build the team around him to make him better. 

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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Their fanbase was getting cocky there for a moment, now it's crickets again haha . Watching them fail and go 5-11 was wonderful. 

It was peak when they had crushed NE and people were just like handing them the AFC. But a team with Trash Bortles isn’t winning any AFC anytime soon. 

 

Thats still a talented Defense they have. But in an offensive league, they have no QB, no receivers, a trash Oline, and a running back who won’t do anything behind said trash Oline. Good luck with that.

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8 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

 

How does a team go from having over $100 million (or close to that) in cap space a couple of years ago to having -$3 million in cap space just 2 to 3 years later? 

 

Jacksonsville should draft a QB or trade for a young guy. Signing franchise QBs from other teams does not seem to lead to winning. Drew Brees is the only guy I can think of who has succeeded with a new team in the last 20 years or so (by "succeeded", I mean "led them far into playoffs"). If I am not mistaken, all the playoff teams other than the Saints started QBs the teams drafted or who had not played for other teams. 

 

Peyton Manning :thmup:

edit: Carson Palmer ?

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